[CGUYS] APC Smart UPS battery replacement DuH!

2008-04-08 Thread rocky lee
I read the manual.

I made a mistake in looking at the diagnostic lights.

The left hand column shows how much load there is.
The right hand column indicates how much battery charge there is.

But... I left the fully charged battery unplugged from the unit
overnight and this morning when i plugged it in, it had no charge.
It's not holding any charge. It was also extremely warm when i removed it.

So, i'll be replacing it anyway. 
Locally BatteryWarehouse.net quoted me $50.00 each
(the unit takes  two) So i'll replace two of them for $100.00

Some of the other quotes (like from Arizona) were cheaper, but with shipping it 
runs about even.

Thanks,

Rocky

   
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Re: [CGUYS] APC Smart UPS battery replacement.

2008-04-08 Thread rlsimon
I have a Leviton power backup that doesn't do anything but that.  The
battery lasted for quite a few years and then got weak (short backup time).
I looked at getting a new one but the battery (arizonabattery.com) was cheap
and easy to replace.  BaddabingBaddaboom.

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Subject: Re: APC Smart UPS battery replacement.


There is batteries plus which is a franchise that is starting to turn up all
over the place.  http://www.batteriesplus.com/

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:06 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just open the case, remove the battery and copy the specs off the side 
 and measure the dimensions. Then purchase one of the same specs and 
 dimensions from an online vendor.  Not a problem, easy to do and 
 cheap.  Many of these batteries are the same that are mass produced in 
 huge numbers for emergency exit lighting units so are available very 
 inexpensively.  The UPS companies will gladly take your money if you want
to pay them their
 outrageous markup, but there is no real reason for doing so.   I have paid
 $14 for RPL batts for Belkin UPS units.

  Some of the Battery sites have UPS battery lookup interfaces.  I 
 looked yours up and it looks like you have a more powerful model of 
 UPS that has larger more expensive batteries than the models I am 
 familiar with.

  Here's a couple of such sites:

 http://www.arizonabattery.com/?page=shop/browsecategory=upsbatteries_
 apc-americanpowerconversion
  http://www.atbatt.com/ups-backup-batteries/b/APC.asp

  db





  rocky lee wrote:

  Hey All,
  I have two APC Smart UPS 1400 units. They take an RBC7 12V combo 
  (two
 batteries together) On one, both the batteries are dead. On the other, 
 one battery is dead, the other lights up and will power either of the 
 housing units.
 
  Any recommendation on where to purchase a replacement? From the
 manufacturer the part runs $180.00 In doing research for a 
 replacement, I see prices from
  $50.00 to $180-$200.00
 
 http://www.apexbattery.com/apc-rbc7j-battery-set-sealed-lead-acid-batt
 eries-apc-batteries.html
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Powersonic-PSH-12180FR-Nut-Bolt-Connector-retard
 ent/dp/B0002ILK0O/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1207587460sr=1-19
 
  I'm just wondering if there are any 'gotchas' i need to be wary 
  about, or
 if there
  are any other concerns about manufacturing that need to be 
  addressed.
 
  Does anyone have recommended vendors or  did anyone find it easier 
  to
 replace with a new unit?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Rocky
 
 
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[CGUYS] APC Smart UPS battery replacement.

2008-04-07 Thread rocky lee
Hey All,
I have two APC Smart UPS 1400 units. They take an RBC7 12V combo (two batteries 
together) On one, both the batteries are dead. On the other, 
one battery is dead, the other lights up and will power either of the housing 
units.

Any recommendation on where to purchase a replacement? From the manufacturer 
the part runs $180.00 In doing research for a replacement, I see prices from
$50.00 to $180-$200.00 

http://www.apexbattery.com/apc-rbc7j-battery-set-sealed-lead-acid-batteries-apc-batteries.html

http://www.amazon.com/Powersonic-PSH-12180FR-Nut-Bolt-Connector-retardent/dp/B0002ILK0O/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1207587460sr=1-19

I'm just wondering if there are any 'gotchas' i need to be wary about, or if 
there
are any other concerns about manufacturing that need to be addressed.

Does anyone have recommended vendors or  did anyone find it easier to replace 
with a new unit?

Thanks,

Rocky


   
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Re: [CGUYS] APC Smart UPS battery replacement.

2008-04-07 Thread Fred Holmes
If you are handy and want to re-use the paraphernalia that bind the two 
batteries into a single pack and attach a cord with a proprietary plug/socket 
on it, it isn't very hard, but is somewhat time consuming, at least for the 
pack that comes in my APC Back UPS XS-1500.  The individual batteries 
themselves should be standard that you should be able to purchase generally.  
If you live in the Alexandria, VA area, Arcade Electronics on General 
Washington Drive off of Edsall Road (there is a connector) on the south, and 
just East of I-395 should have them. The map shows it as the Edsall Shirley 
Industrial Park.  If you are near Leesburg, there is a general battery shop 
just off, I believe, King St., but at any rate, the thoroughfare that enters 
Lessburg from the South.  Going west on the Greenway, exit at exit 1 onto US 15 
south (the Leesburg beltway, clockwise), and immediately (never leave the 
ramp lane) exit US 15 south onto whatever name the street is and follow it 
north.!
   The battery shop is on the right, in a cluster of shops around a parking 
lot, near the bottom of the dip just before you reach the center of town. Sign 
is visible from the street, which is how I first discovered it.  If you want to 
buy the whole apparatus already assembled, I think you are stuck with buying it 
from an APC authorized dealer.  From the price you quoted for the assembly, I 
suspect your batteries are bigger than mine -- last longer in a power outage. 
Or you have the auxiliary pack that sits separately to the side of the housing 
that has the electronics in it.  They keep re-designing the physical housing 
for these things for no apparent reason.

Be sure to replace both (all) batteries.  Don't try to keep a good battery.

Fred Holmes

At 01:10 PM 4/7/2008, rocky lee wrote:
Hey All,
I have two APC Smart UPS 1400 units. They take an RBC7 12V combo (two 
batteries together) On one, both the batteries are dead. On the other, 
one battery is dead, the other lights up and will power either of the housing 
units.

Any recommendation on where to purchase a replacement? From the manufacturer 
the part runs $180.00 In doing research for a replacement, I see prices from
$50.00 to $180-$200.00 

http://www.apexbattery.com/apc-rbc7j-battery-set-sealed-lead-acid-batteries-apc-batteries.html

http://www.amazon.com/Powersonic-PSH-12180FR-Nut-Bolt-Connector-retardent/dp/B0002ILK0O/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1207587460sr=1-19

I'm just wondering if there are any 'gotchas' i need to be wary about, or if 
there
are any other concerns about manufacturing that need to be addressed.

Does anyone have recommended vendors or  did anyone find it easier to replace 
with a new unit?

Thanks,

Rocky


   
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Re: [CGUYS] APC Smart UPS battery replacement.

2008-04-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
There is batteries plus which is a franchise that is starting to turn
up all over the place.  http://www.batteriesplus.com/

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:06 PM, db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just open the case, remove the battery and copy the specs off the side and
 measure the dimensions. Then purchase one of the same specs and dimensions
 from an online vendor.  Not a problem, easy to do and cheap.
  Many of these batteries are the same that are mass produced in huge numbers
 for emergency exit lighting units so are available very inexpensively.  The
 UPS companies will gladly take your money if you want to pay them their
 outrageous markup, but there is no real reason for doing so.   I have paid
 $14 for RPL batts for Belkin UPS units.

  Some of the Battery sites have UPS battery lookup interfaces.  I looked
 yours up and it looks like you have a more powerful model of UPS that has
 larger more expensive batteries than the models I am familiar with.

  Here's a couple of such sites:

 http://www.arizonabattery.com/?page=shop/browsecategory=upsbatteries_apc-americanpowerconversion;
  http://www.atbatt.com/ups-backup-batteries/b/APC.asp

  db





  rocky lee wrote:

  Hey All,
  I have two APC Smart UPS 1400 units. They take an RBC7 12V combo (two
 batteries together) On one, both the batteries are dead. On the other, one
 battery is dead, the other lights up and will power either of the housing
 units.
 
  Any recommendation on where to purchase a replacement? From the
 manufacturer the part runs $180.00 In doing research for a replacement, I
 see prices from
  $50.00 to $180-$200.00
 
 http://www.apexbattery.com/apc-rbc7j-battery-set-sealed-lead-acid-batteries-apc-batteries.html
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Powersonic-PSH-12180FR-Nut-Bolt-Connector-retardent/dp/B0002ILK0O/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1207587460sr=1-19
 
  I'm just wondering if there are any 'gotchas' i need to be wary about, or
 if there
  are any other concerns about manufacturing that need to be addressed.
 
  Does anyone have recommended vendors or  did anyone find it easier to
 replace with a new unit?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Rocky
 
 
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