Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>Again, wording. Now the iphone is a full blown computer, skipping over >netbook and no mention of phone. It really doesn't matter what you call it, >it's what it is for whomever buys it. You can see the changes occuring by looking at survey statistics. The April stats from Net Applications show Safari's market share now exceeding 8% while IE continues its drop to 66%. I think the force behind that is the iPhone. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/05/safari-and-mac-os-x-hold-steady-f or-april-while-iphone-climbs.ars Also adding together OS X and iPhone OS puts Apple's overall market share a tad over 10%. I'm surprised that Linux barely crosses the 1% mark. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to "define" what they are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE, and were about half the size of the so-called netbooks today. Unfortunately anything running Windows PE isn't going to offer a good computing experience. PE was designed to boot a computer and allow installing another version of windows. If you meant Win CE, Yes. Win CE is right. Thanks. The only devices I tried weren't using Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Again, wording. Now the iphone is a full blown computer, skipping over netbook and no mention of phone. It really doesn't matter what you call it, it's what it is for whomever buys it. I use my touch to control two computers via VNC, perhaps we are heading towards a place where these items aren't computers, but interfaces to the real power behind the scenes...behind your tv or a server in a back closet. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: > > > If people are already using iPhone/iTouch as computers, it takes little > imagination to see a jumbo iPhone/iTouch being even better at it. > > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to "define" what they > are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE, and were > about half the size of the so-called netbooks today. Unfortunately anything running Windows PE isn't going to offer a good computing experience. PE was designed to boot a computer and allow installing another version of windows. If you meant Win CE, well that would make me wince as an OS too. It really isn't and wasn't really designed to allow real computing. The software used on that OS has to be especially tailored to the limitations of the OS, and bluntly it's probably slower than Windows Vista on a netbook using an Intel Atom processor with 256 megs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to "define" what they are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE, and were about half the size of the so-called netbooks today. I've only seen a few of these in the US, more overseas. Americans tend to like "big" even with small things. I don't understand: Are you in charge of deciding what a netbook is, or isn't? I bought a 12 inch "netbook" which weighs less than 3 lbs and has no optical drive, and it goes in my bag and is with me everywhere. And it has most of the apps that I need... open office, etc. And it does my "day to day" computing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
I thought he was keying in on twisting their usage as has been done with Spiro's name. :-) Stewart At 10:30 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote: Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals." (From the wiki on Spiro). Tom Piwowar wrote: Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? You mean like Spiro Theodore Agnew? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as "an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals." (From the wiki on Spiro). Tom Piwowar wrote: Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? You mean like Spiro Theodore Agnew? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It >doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a "media pad". It's an iPod with >HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of >uses as a netbook. This reminds me of the arguments made in the '70s about microprocessors. "These are machine controllers, they will never be used for computing. It's impossible!" If people are already using iPhone/iTouch as computers, it takes little imagination to see a jumbo iPhone/iTouch being even better at it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> You are off topic. Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a "media pad". It's an iPod with HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of uses as a netbook. Furthermore, it's "smaller than the Kindle 2", which is 7.5" wide, and therefore it is NOT what Apple is allegedly buying all those 10" screens for. I'm sure it will be very nice, as Apple products usually are. But if the description is anywhere close to being accurate, it is NOT a netbook. Maybe at some point Apple will come out with a netbook equivalent, but this ain't it, no matter how hard you stamp your feet or how long you hold your breath.. End of discussion for me. It's just too silly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>No one has tried to redefine, confuse, and obfuscate except Tom, and now, >apparently, you. iPhone and iTouch are fine, but they are emphatically not >netbooks, and neither is the mythical iPad if it looks anything like it >did in the illustration. Chris is sure going to be pissed when the Apple netbook sweeps all that other crap off the market, only to be seen in Microsoft advertisements" "It's crappy and its cheap -- it's a PC!" * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good >things and twist their usage into something undesirable. >What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be >elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite >products? You mean like Spiro Theodore Agnew? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>You previously suggested that iPhone and iTouch were "netbooks". They have >3.5" screens, do they not? Bla, bla, bla. Read the subject line. Look up "will" in the dictionary. You'll discover that it is future tense. Check on "previously" and you'll find that it refers to the past. You are off topic. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> Certain elements of society like to take words > that mean perfectly good things and twist their > usage into something undesirable. What the heck > is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people > like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like > to know elite people or use elite products? There's absolutely nothing wrong with being elite. We would hope to have our elite running our government, our universities, etc. Elite athletes are worthy of our admiration (well, most of them are, anyway). But being elitIST is an entirely different matter: "The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources." Here are some of the substitutes suggested by one if the thesauri: snobbish, superior, arrogant, pretentious, stuck-up, patronizing, and condescending. Not such a good thing, eh? :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Chris Dunford wrote: You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? Look it up! It's not something to be avoided. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> >You write this condescending BS, but can't understand > >why people think Mac users are elitist? > > I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced > PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. > > Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names? I didn't call anyone a name. I simply pointed out that the message was condescending in tone and that no one should be surprised that people see Mac users as elitist. Moreover, Betty's preference of hardware had nothing to do with my comment. I referred ONLY to the tone of her message. You, on the other hand, bring "their off-brand, low-speced PCs" into the picture. So my comment was "Your attitude could be construed as elitist", and yours was "You're trailer trash partly because you use PCs." You don't see the difference? You don't see that it does nothing but reinforce the perception of Mac users as elitist? How, here's some real name-calling. You should talk to the guy who wrote THIS: > Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures Oh, wait, it was you, five minutes earlier. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as "netbooks" to > confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5"-8", not > a 10"-12" notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more > portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefined cheap > "netbooks" are giving a bad name to an evolving segment of the small computer > market. The 10 inch netbooks are a lot easier to carry around than the larger laptops. Having typed on a wide variety of keyboards ranging from the Original Sinclair/Timex keyboards to real IBM Keyboards and also even TTY terminals, the MSI keyboards aren't all that bad as long as I remember which keyboard I'm using. I do however have an intense dislike of rolled up rubbery keyboards since to me they don't have enough tactile sensation for me to type on without looking. One of the $300 netbooks with an encrypted filesystem strikes me as an ideal carry around laptop. It wouldn't be my everyday use machine but for out of the house and/or office, perfect. If you go into a retailer like MicroCenter and ask for a Netbook, you'll get something with a minimum screen size of 7 inches most likely and a maximum size of a little over 10 inches. You may not like the definition as used but that's what is being sold as a netbook. > What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So > what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall > scribbles on Facebook? Actually they're not too small for most people to get a lot of usage out of. They aren't the fastest processors around but for surfing, taking notes in school, even running an LCD projector, they're workable. With OpenOffice, Firefox, Evolution or Thunderbird, you've got a package that most folks can do reasonable work on. Windows 7 also runs rather well on netbooks with 2 gigs of ram, but that's another issue entirely. Let's see a relatively decent sized drive and the recognition that you're not going to be editing movies or compiling large programs on your netbook, they work well for most people. Bluntly I'ld rather have a netbook on a long trip than a much heavier laptop. > The convergence of notebook computers and smartphones is an ongoing process. > The results are still in flux. I really don't want a phone combined with a computer, any phone I can reasonably carry won't have a screen big enough for me to read easily, and if I have to carry around a screen and as for typing, well given the size constraints of netbooks, the keyboards have to be shrunk, of course compared to the "keyboard" on something like the Treo phones, they're heavenly. Right now, I could run OSX on an MSI netbook, but I won't even though I have a copy of OSX to install (bought a family pack, only used two), the terms of purchase only allow installation on Apple machines. Besides, the new Ubuntu netbook version works quite well on the same netbook with no major issues, bye to Windows on them too for me and mine. If Apple does come out with a netbook equivalent (although I originally thought that was the niche the Air was aiming for), it still won't make netbooks obsolete. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of > using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts. > too often redefine names of existing products to confuse > people, either because of laziness on their part or > deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of > that. Betty, look at the history section of Wikipedia's netbook entry. It started with Psion netBook, followed by OLPC and Palm Folio, then the Asus line, now Dell & HP. They are all very similar in basic design: small, light, clamshell, network-enabled, mechanical keyboard. No one has tried to redefine, confuse, and obfuscate except Tom, and now, apparently, you. iPhone and iTouch are fine, but they are emphatically not netbooks, and neither is the mythical iPad if it looks anything like it did in the illustration. As to condescending, I don't know whether that was your intent or not, but your post certainly was. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> >I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5" screen and an > >execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. > > Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the > pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have > a 3.5" screen. > > Those LCDs that Apple has been stockpiling are 10". You previously suggested that iPhone and iTouch were "netbooks". They have 3.5" screens, do they not? Then your second attempt to redefine the term so that Apple could have one appeared to indicate something that has no keyboard. Touchscreen keyboards are not keyboards, they are keyboard *simulations*. I used to have a flight simulator. It did not confuse me into thinking that I owned a 747. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
I don't understand: Are you in charge of deciding what a netbook is, or isn't? I bought a 12 inch "netbook" which weighs less than 3 lbs and has no optical drive, and it goes in my bag and is with me everywhere. And it has most of the apps that I need... open office, etc. And it does my "day to day" computing. I also have a 15" notebook which weighs more than twice as much and is too heavy for me to carry comfortably on a day to day basis. It has the MS Office suite, etc. which are pretty standard for most general operations. I also have some desktop publishing apps. Both of these use my Treo for remote connection wherever I need network access. And each can access my server using Logmein Hamachi. Which of these is too small for day to day computing?? - Original Message - From: "b_s-wilk" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He does not use it for tweeting or Facebook wall scribbling. He takes it to high school. It fits easily in his backpack because it's smaller than most of his textbooks. He uses it for note-taking, homework, projects, reports, and research (much of all this stuff being done at school). He has no difficulty in typing on it. It's perfect for his needs. He loves it. His friends are all jealous... I'm sure your son loves his small inexpensive notebook, and it does what he needs. I've been considering one, too. Some are quite nice and convenient. They're simply not netbooks, except in the new redefinition. I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts. too often redefine names of existing products to confuse people, either because of laziness on their part or deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He does not use it for tweeting or Facebook wall scribbling. He takes it to high school. It fits easily in his backpack because it's smaller than most of his textbooks. He uses it for note-taking, homework, projects, reports, and research (much of all this stuff being done at school). He has no difficulty in typing on it. It's perfect for his needs. He loves it. His friends are all jealous... I'm sure your son loves his small inexpensive notebook, and it does what he needs. I've been considering one, too. Some are quite nice and convenient. They're simply not netbooks, except in the new redefinition. I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts. too often redefine names of existing products to confuse people, either because of laziness on their part or deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5" screen and an >execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5" screen. Those LCDs that Apple has been stockpiling are 10". * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac >users are elitist? I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>"As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a >notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible >with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches), small >keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three >pounds) and no optical disk drive." And it has to be brown... That describes one possible netbook configuration. It is full of specifications designed to steer us to one preconceived notion. "PC standard software" is not a necessary requirement. Nor is "x86-compatible processor" a necessary requirement. Nor is "no optical disk drive". "Small keyboard" does not have to be implemented in hardware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Manufacturers decided what a netbook was in the first place, they can call it peanut butter toast for all we care. I have a friend who is 6'6" and about 335 pounds...a 17" notebook is a netbook in his hands. It's what you make it to be. It's what works for the person using it. Netbooks aren't 'too small for every day computing' they are too small for you to do every day computing...and me. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:58 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive >>> > ly_to_verizon.html >>> > > > Everybody is guessing. >>> >> >> I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. >> > > No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as "netbooks" to > confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5"-8", not > a 10"-12" notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more > portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefined cheap > "netbooks" are giving a bad name to an evolving segment of the small > computer market. > > What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So > what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? > Wall scribbles on Facebook? > > The convergence of notebook computers and smartphones is an ongoing > process. The results are still in flux. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Following on the heels of yesterday's rumors of an Apple deal for a Verizon iPad, MS says "me too." The Zune Phone commeth... http://www.pcworld.com/article/164022/microsoft_responds_to_verizon_pink_ru mor.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> >I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. > > Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. No, it has to have a keyboard and a screen that you don't need a magnifying glass to see. "As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches), small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three pounds) and no optical disk drive." http://tinyurl.com/dzjjmh * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. > So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? > Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He does not use it for tweeting or Facebook wall scribbling. He takes it to high school. It fits easily in his backpack because it's smaller than most of his textbooks. He uses it for note-taking, homework, projects, reports, and research (much of all this stuff being done at school). He has no difficulty in typing on it. It's perfect for his needs. He loves it. His friends are all jealous. And he paid for it easily with money that he made mowing lawns. I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5" screen and an execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. The fact that Apple doesn't have a netbook doesn't mean that they are, ipso facto, stupid--or that people who buy them are stupid. And the fact that you don't have a use for one doesn't mean that no one does. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive > ly_to_verizon.html > > > Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as "netbooks" to confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5"-8", not a 10"-12" notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefined cheap "netbooks" are giving a bad name to an evolving segment of the small computer market. What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? The convergence of notebook computers and smartphones is an ongoing process. The results are still in flux. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
>I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive > ly_to_verizon.html > > > Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusively_t o_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
