Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-11-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?

Not likely. Cat-5 is 10 Mbps. Way above what you are looking at.

And a bad wire would limit you equally in both directions. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-11-01 Thread gerald
on the wva sites i show 9.8  2.1  on the internet frog i showed 8.2   2.78.  
big ratio difference.

maybe the way the sites look at things and connect.

there are troubleshooting guides and software adjustments buried in here:

http://www.dslreports.com/tools

along with reference to 385 test sites.

At 06:04 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the upload does not sound fast enough


Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?


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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-11-01 Thread Robert
On Cox cable (I'm the one considering switching to Verizon fios) the 
InternetFrog shows download speed 4.45 Mbps and upload 2.29.




gerald wrote:

on the wva sites i show 9.8  2.1  on the internet frog i showed 8.2   2.78.  
big ratio difference.

maybe the way the sites look at things and connect.

there are troubleshooting guides and software adjustments buried in here:

http://www.dslreports.com/tools

along with reference to 385 test sites.

At 06:04 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
  



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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-11-01 Thread Robert

P.S.,

I tried the InternetFrog a second time with Cox cable, and got these 
results:  download 6.76 Mbps, upload 2.36 Mbps. 

Actually, after several repeats of the test, these numbers are more 
typical of these tests than the earlier one that I originally posted.  
So happens on the first post, I was doing video editing in the background.


So, it seems that download with Verizon fios is about 25% faster than 
cable, upload about the same.


John Duncan Yoyo wrote:


Run this speedtest http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/.  FIOS just
came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.
  



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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-10-31 Thread gerald
the upload does not sound fast enough

At 04:17 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 up does not sound correct.  i show 7.93/2.59mbps.


Oh yeah I pay $10 for faster speed.  Forgot about that - I just got
10.9/1.75 but my wife is working on another node.



 Run this speedtest http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/.  FIOS just
 came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.


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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-10-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the upload does not sound fast enough


Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?


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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-10-31 Thread mike
If it's bad cat 5.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  the upload does not sound fast enough
 

 Yep, I wonder what is up with that.  This is a Mac computer wired directly
 into the hub with  about thirty feet of cat Cat5- Could the Cat 5 be it?


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[CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-10-30 Thread Robert
A door-to-door salesman showed up at my hovel today to sell me 
Verizon's  internet, TV, and phone package using FIOS.


I know FIOS transmission is supposed to be quicker than cable, but I 
don't know if I would actually benefit from getting it.  To ask those 
who know, what improvement (if any) would I see in a TV signal using 
fios over cable, both now with analog TV and later using HD TV?  What 
improvement in internet speed would I see, considering that I am using 
the internet for simple web browsing and email mostly?




Background:  I now have Verizon local telephone, Sprint long-distance 
(usually no charge per month), Cox internet cable, and DirectTV.  My 
current monthly bill is about $165 for same, paid month-to-month (analog 
TV box).  The similar service for Verizon FIOS is $145 per month for a 
one-year contract -- thereafter going month-to-month which will increase 
about $15 if prices are not raised.  Verizon might offer another 
contract at the end of the first year but that price is unknown.  In 
addition, the free DVR that Verizon offers might be charged for after 
the first year.  Plus, getting a HD TV box with Verizon FIOS is about 
$10 per month extra.


Technical:  To try to gain some technical insight, I asked the salesman 
how many hours the free 120 GB DVR would record; he responded that it 
would record 3 hours per GB for analog TV.  This means that the TV 
signal is compressed about 12:1, a fairly high amount IMHO.  I asked how 
many HD hours could the DVR record, and his response was that it could 
record 1/4 the time of  analog TV signals -- I don't know if this means 
the compression is 3:1 or not.  Since compression of prerecorded video 
sources can be easily done, but maybe real-time signals can't be 
compressed quickly enough for transmission, I asked if there was a 
difference in recording time between analog  HD signals.  He responded 
that this was too technical a question for him to answer.  Any insight?



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Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios

2008-10-30 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Verizon is offering package deals for TV/Internet/phone of $104/month.
Check Verizon's web page to see what sort  of deal it gives you.  I wouldn't
be shocked if it is better than the guy walking the neighborhood.

The picture is good, they have plenty of bandwidth so they compress less
than satellite.  On the DVR I have 35.5 hours of Standard Definition TV
which the drive claims to be 74% full.  I'm not sure of the Hard drive size
on my unit. I don't have an HD  but the number is about right -3 or 4 hours
for SD to 1 hour HD.

Internet speeds are much faster and less annoying than COX.  Pages jump up
faster.  I doubt you will notice much with email.

Run this speedtest http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/.  FIOS just
came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up.


They throw a few services into the package which are nice.  Disney's
internet is the one I remember.


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