Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
Vacation? The mind boggles. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:10 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Where did all this money come from that they can so cavalierly pass on $4.7 billion. Are we being overcharged? Of course we are being overcharged. I am sure that you already know that. To wit, we pay, on average, five times what users in the Netherlands pay, and our broadband bills are typically at least twice as much as in most other countries. Corporate Amerika Rules, the only country in the world that has no federal law mandating vacation for its workers. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:34 AM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote: Vacation? The mind boggles. Yeah, well, in relation to the subject of paying too much for internet connectivity, I was only providing a clear cut example of just how much these big corporations are able to have their way with both our government and the citizens. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
Where did all this money come from that they can so cavalierly pass on $4.7 billion. Are we being overcharged? Of course we are being overcharged. I am sure that you already know that. To wit, we pay, on average, five times what users in the Netherlands pay, and our broadband bills are typically at least twice as much as in most other countries. Corporate Amerika Rules, the only country in the world that has no federal law mandating vacation for its workers. Plus, when broadband-neglected communities try to roll their own broadband [example: Lafayette, LA, http://lafayetteprofiber.com], the Telcos fight it tooth and nail, secretly funding no socialism campaigns (much like the health insurance industry is now doing nationally.) All the more evidence that it's not government you should fear, it's big business. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:40 PM, b_s-wilkb1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Plus, when broadband-neglected communities try to roll their own broadband [example: Lafayette, LA, http://lafayetteprofiber.com], the Telcos fight it tooth and nail, secretly funding no socialism campaigns (much like the health insurance industry is now doing nationally.) All the more evidence that it's not government you should fear, it's big business. Actually, we need to be wary of both because big business runs our government, and as the famous saying goes, the business of government is business. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
Plus, when broadband-neglected communities try to roll their own broadband [example: Lafayette, LA, http://lafayetteprofiber.com], the Telcos fight it tooth and nail, secretly funding no socialism campaigns (much like the health insurance industry is now doing nationally.) All the more evidence that it's not government you should fear, it's big business. Actually, we need to be wary of both because big business runs our government, and as the famous saying goes, the business of government is business. We need a better business/government partnership model to catch up with broadband availability. The Calvin Coolidge model you mention didn't work so well for the US, and the rest of the world. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
Looks like rural America will get to keep its guns and religion, but it ain't gonna get no DSL. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/13/ AR2009081302433.html?wpisrc=newsletterwpisrc=newsletter The Obama administration made a national priority of spreading high- speed Internet access to every American home and offered stimulus money to help companies pay for it, but the biggest network operators are staying away from the program. All three say they are flush with cash, enough to upgrade and expand their broadband networks on their own. Where did all this money come from that they can so cavalierly pass on $4.7 billion. Are we being overcharged? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
In case you missed this: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2009/05/13/Verizon-Frontier-agree-to-86B-sale/UPI-64691242244299/ No comment. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:10 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote: Where did all this money come from that they can so cavalierly pass on $4.7 billion. Are we being overcharged? Of course we are being overcharged. I am sure that you already know that. To wit, we pay, on average, five times what users in the Netherlands pay, and our broadband bills are typically at least twice as much as in most other countries. Corporate Amerika Rules, the only country in the world that has no federal law mandating vacation for its workers. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
On Aug 18, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: In case you missed this: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2009/05/13/Verizon-Frontier-agree- to-86B-sale/UPI-64691242244299/ Wow I did! Approximately 11,000 Verizon employees will switch to working for Frontier, Verizon said. Verizon is bailing completely on those farmers. I never would have imagined. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Flush With Cash and Fearing Rules, Major Carriers Tell Rural America to Get Lost
Wow I did! It ain't exactly news. http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/03/30/fairpoint_verizon_deal_comes_to_a_close_on_monday/ No comment, I'm just sayin'. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *