Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[David K Watson]

Ah, that makes a lot of sense.  Furthermore, it's something I 
should have known, since my son was very fond of the Tak 
video games and Nickelodeon series, "Tak and the power of Juju".  
Just about all the jujus in the series were ridiculous in pretty
gross ways, that can't help the JooJoo's marketing any, 
either.  

I still think of jujubes when I hear the name, though.  


> From:John Duncan Yoyo 
> Subject: Re: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
> 
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, mike  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery "in a few
>> months".  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up
>> with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you
>> don't want the word "crunch" associated with breakable electronics,
>> but "JooJoo" simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad
>> movie theater candy.)
>> 
>> I think that they were aiming at the Urban Dictionaries Definition 3 but
> Definition 1 is a bad double meaning.  Definitions 2 and 4 are Crunch pad
> related.
> 1.   joojoo
> 
> 
> 
> karma. bad luck.
> it's bad joojoo to speak ill of others.
> 
> 3.   joojoo
> 
> 
> Joojoo means magic. Often used in conjunction with the word "bad" to refer
> to a thing or situation that might bring bad luck or bad karma, but things
> can have good joojoo too.
> Hey man, don't use that white lighter, that's bad joojoo!
> 
> or
> 
> Take this ring, its joojoo will protect you.
> 
> 
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joojoo
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[John Duncan Yoyo]

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:46 PM, mike  wrote:

>
> What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery "in a few
> months".  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up
> with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you
> don't want the word "crunch" associated with breakable electronics,
> but "JooJoo" simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad
> movie theater candy.)
>
> I think that they were aiming at the Urban Dictionaries Definition 3 but
Definition 1 is a bad double meaning.  Definitions 2 and 4 are Crunch pad
related.
1.   joojoo



karma. bad luck.
it's bad joojoo to speak ill of others.

3.   joojoo


Joojoo means magic. Often used in conjunction with the word "bad" to refer
to a thing or situation that might bring bad luck or bad karma, but things
can have good joojoo too.
Hey man, don't use that white lighter, that's bad joojoo!

or

Take this ring, its joojoo will protect you.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joojoo
-- 
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

Weird...I walked into an Apple store and saw them ready for buying.

And yes..almost impossible competition.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:50 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> Tough competition...
>
> "Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after the
> touch-screen tablet computers went on sale in the U.S. Demand is such that
> consumers looking to purchase one of the devices face wait times of up to a
> week or more."
>
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224700471
> iPad Sales Top One Million -- InformationWeek
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[tjpa]

Tough competition...

"Apple said it sold one million iPads as of Friday, just 28 days after  
the touch-screen tablet computers went on sale in the U.S. Demand is  
such that consumers looking to purchase one of the devices face wait  
times of up to a week or more."


http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=224700471
iPad Sales Top One Million -- InformationWeek


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad, it's about
300 bux.  The biggest benefit of course for the iPad is the app store, makes
entering this market near impossible for anyone.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)  wrote:

> Source, Mike?
>
> Thank you,
> Mark Snyder
>
> -Original Message-
> Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under.
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

Sorry for the double post, forgot the URL.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcpop.com%2Fdoc%2F0%2F527%2F527783.shtml&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8



On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:26 AM, mike  wrote:

> This unit would be considered I think competition for the iPad, it's about
> 300 bux.  The biggest benefit of course for the iPad is the app store, makes
> entering this market near impossible for anyone.
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) <
> mark.sny...@ngc.com> wrote:
>
>> Source, Mike?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Mark Snyder
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under.
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)]

Okay, but that reference is for iPods and is a year old.  You were
talking about PCs.  

Why are you crossing devices to compare?  The iPod actually took so much
market share competing with its rivals that many of them are gone or
marginal.

Your assertion is as suspect as your method.

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 
-Original Message-
Yes, I'm playing a little fast with the 50% remark but this area of
margins
has been talked about in articles many times, here is one.  The PC
vendors
typically have much much smaller margins due to competition amongst
themselves.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/05/09/22/a_look_inside_the_ipod_nan
o_and_apples_margins.html


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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/02/01/apple-ipad-to-deliver-50-margin-says-analyst/tab/article/

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)  wrote:

> Source, Mike?
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

Yes, I'm playing a little fast with the 50% remark but this area of margins
has been talked about in articles many times, here is one.  The PC vendors
typically have much much smaller margins due to competition amongst
themselves.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/05/09/22/a_look_inside_the_ipod_nano_and_apples_margins.html

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)  wrote:

> Source, Mike?
>
> Thank you,
> Mark Snyder
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)]

Source, Mike?

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 

-Original Message-
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

[mike]

Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under.
There are net tops with win 7 and multiple ports for under 300.

On May 2, 2010 7:40 PM, "David K Watson"  wrote:

MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears
out:
<
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-tablet-project/
>

HP is apparently killing its Slate tablet.  It really isn't surprising,
given that it was supposed to have more ports and memory than
the iPad, front- and rear-facing cameras, and would have to
pay a Win7 license fee, yet still was somehow going to be cheaper
than an iPad.

HP also reportedly wasn't happy with Win7 as a touchscreen OS.
Speculation is that once HP acquires palm, the Slate will be resurrected
and transmogrified into a Web OS device with a mobile processor
replacing the Intel Atom.

What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery "in a few
months".  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up
with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you
don't want the word "crunch" associated with breakable electronics,
but "JooJoo" simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad
movie theater candy.)


On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:18 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:

> From:"Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)" 
> Subject: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

> > Ars posted a nice post mortem article on the Courier: > <
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/...
> Thank you,=20

> Mark Snyder
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[David K Watson]

MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears 
out: 


HP is apparently killing its Slate tablet.  It really isn't surprising, 
given that it was supposed to have more ports and memory than 
the iPad, front- and rear-facing cameras, and would have to 
pay a Win7 license fee, yet still was somehow going to be cheaper 
than an iPad.  

HP also reportedly wasn't happy with Win7 as a touchscreen OS.  
Speculation is that once HP acquires palm, the Slate will be resurrected 
and transmogrified into a Web OS device with a mobile processor 
replacing the Intel Atom.  

What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery "in a few 
months".  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up 
with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you 
don't want the word "crunch" associated with breakable electronics, 
but "JooJoo" simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad 
movie theater candy.)  


On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:18 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:

> From:"Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)" 
> Subject: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
> 
> Ars posted a nice post mortem article on the Courier:
>  it-ever-was-a-post-mortem.ars>
> 
> What do you think - Has M$ lost their ability to design marketable new
> products, misunderstood the main criteria for UI design, let perfect
> over-rule possible or are they just too scattered to get new product
> ideas to market successfully?  Something else?
> Thank you,=20
> Mark Snyder


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[Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)]

Ars posted a nice post mortem article on the Courier:


What do you think - Has M$ lost their ability to design marketable new
products, misunderstood the main criteria for UI design, let perfect
over-rule possible or are they just too scattered to get new product
ideas to market successfully?  Something else?
Thank you, 
Mark Snyder


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