Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I have gotten several spam calls on my cell phone. I thought this was outright illegal. But of course, they do not leave company information, only a callback number (and sometimes not even that) which would only serve to verify my phone number. Any suggestions? I didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been addressed. Saul From: Harvey Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:43:13 -0400 After I got a new cell phone number recently I began receiving many spam SMS messages. I listed my cell number with the Do Not Call registry and the messages soon stopped. -- Forwarded Message From: Michel Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:27:40 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call Urban Legend! See http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp This is an Internet rumor that rears its ugly head every few months. It's a good idea to register your LAND LINE with the do not call registry if you haven't already, but it is unnecessary for cell phones. -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:58 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Register your phone https://www.donotcall.gov/ and then you will have some recourse. Most of the calls should stop after the registration kicks in. Good Luck. Richard P. Saul Goldberg wrote: I have gotten several spam calls on my cell phone. I thought this was outright illegal. But of course, they do not leave company information, only a callback number (and sometimes not even that) which would only serve to verify my phone number. Any suggestions? I didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been addressed. Saul * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Saul record all phone numbers and report them to the FCC. Making spam calls to cell phones might (notice that word) might be illegal. Companies are not supposed to use automatic dialers with cell phone numbers and if they did they can be fined for this. Stewart At 09:10 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote: I have gotten several spam calls on my cell phone. I thought this was outright illegal. But of course, they do not leave company information, only a callback number (and sometimes not even that) which would only serve to verify my phone number. Any suggestions? I didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been addressed. Saul From: Harvey Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:43:13 -0400 After I got a new cell phone number recently I began receiving many spam SMS messages. I listed my cell number with the Do Not Call registry and the messages soon stopped. -- Forwarded Message From: Michel Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:27:40 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call Urban Legend! See http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp This is an Internet rumor that rears its ugly head every few months. It's a good idea to register your LAND LINE with the do not call registry if you haven't already, but it is unnecessary for cell phones. -Mike __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:58 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
You may be able to get at those messages by calling yourself on a land line and accessing them that way. I can do that on my Verizon wireless phone. On 10/3/07, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 06:37 PM 10/02/2007 -0400, Robert wrote These were a snug pocket for watches on the right side of pants just underneath the belt -- all men's pants had them until about 1955. My father reluctantly had to switch to a wristwatch when the watch pocket was removed from pants. Is THAT what that little pocket is for??? I always wondered! My jeans still all have that pocket, and I've never found anything to fit in it! Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call....tech pockets
Robert said: Today, there ought to be a separate pocket in everyone's clothes each for the cell phone, the GPS device, the iPod, the subcompact digital camera, the pocket PC (if it still exists), the digital passport, and a portable radio/tv. I think I have missed an important device that deserves its pocket! There is just such an itemor items. Check them out at http://scottevest.com/ Paula/IN/USA raven880atindy.net Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen.Mort Sahl * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
These were a snug pocket for watches on the right side of pants just underneath the belt -- all men's pants had them until about 1955. My father reluctantly had to switch to a wristwatch when the watch pocket was removed from pants. Is THAT what that little pocket is for??? I always wondered! My jeans still all have that pocket, and I've never found anything to fit in it! My pink iPod Nano fits perfectly in a jeans watch pocket. So does my son's iPod shuffle. However, I usually use the pocket for change. I used to have my grandfather's gold pocket watch on a chain, but it doesn't fit in with the same pocket with the Nano. Nano wins. I have both lightweight and heavyweight multipocket safari pants with special pockets for tools, phone, knife, hidden money pocket, whatever. They even have double zippers on each leg to change to shorts. Good for travel/hiking and sleeping in airports or other odd places. -- not fashionable, except in hostels. Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I followed the cell phone/spam disucssions with interest since about 3 years ago, I began receiving spam call/robot calls from the public school system telling me that my child could not attend without the propoer vacinations 3 problems: I have no school age children, I don't live in that district, and the message provded no contact information to tell them to stop. For a time, the calls were weekly or even daily. I searched for phone numbers for the school district but could never find the correct office. Eventually, last Spring, I was given a number to call. I could only leave a voice message and never got a call back but these robot calls appear to have stopped ... wait, I'd better check my phone good, no missed calls ... so far ... Subject: OT:Cell phone do not call After I got a new cell phone number recently I began receiving many spam SMS messages. I listed my cell number with the Do Not Call registry and the messages soon stopped. -- I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. -- Forwarded Message From: Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:44:54 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call At 04:06 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Sorry about the wrong info on voice mail charges. I think you're right -- it depends. On the other point, I just think that a good test of any behavior is whether you'd be content if everyone did the same. If everyone used their cell phones exclusively for outgoing calls, no one would ever be reachable by cell. The situation is somewhat analogous to answering machines. I don't REALLY need an answering machine because if someone wants to reach me badly enough, they'll call back. But I'm glad other people do have answering machines so I don't have to keep calling them if they don't answer. I can't chuck mine in good conscience w/o being OK with everyone else doing the same. -- Forwarded Message From: Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:55:41 -0400 Subject: Re: OT:Cell phone do not call At 10:19 AM 10/03/2007 -0400, Harvey Simon wrote Just one question, Sue. Do you ever try to reach anyone on their cell phone? Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. Only if I know they're a regular user. Or if I've been given that number to reach them. I'm sitting here now reading my TracFone instructions. It plainly says: Airtime units are used when you access your voice mail or retrieve voice mail messages from your TracFone. So I guess it depends on the phone/plan one has. Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Cell phone numbers are recycled, more often for PAYGO. So if the person who gave up the number when they didn't bother to refill their card doesn't tell friends, etc., that the number isn't theirs any more, you will likely get their number with your new phone and their unwanted phone calls. If the person is under 25, you'll also get unwanted texts. When you have one of the more expensive plans, you may get free voice mail, but that's not the case with basic plans or PAYGO. I have to use my minutes to check voice mail. If I had the service that costs twice as much, my voice mail would be free. Some services will charge for voice mail messages that have been recorded, whether or not you retrieve them at all. I disabled my husband's voicemail on his little rubber cell phone for just that reason. He has caller ID. When he recognizes a number or a name in the phonebook, he answers or returns the call, otherwise he asks me how to delete the unknown number. ;-) I followed the cell phone/spam disucssions with interest since about 3 years ago, I began receiving spam call/robot calls from the public school system telling me that my child could not attend without the propoer vacinations 3 problems: I have no school age children, I don't live in that district, and the message provded no contact information to tell them to stop. For a time, the calls were weekly or even daily. I searched for phone numbers for the school district but could never find the correct office. Eventually, last Spring, I was given a number to call. I could only leave a voice message and never got a call back but these robot calls appear to have stopped ... Btw, no charge for checking voice mail. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Please check out your info before sending it to a list. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.shtm Stewart At 02:57 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
From the governments web page: Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry Despite Re-Circulating E-mail, It is Still Not Necessary to Register Cell Phone Numbers As the number of phone numbers on the National Do Not Call (DNC) Registry surpassed 139 million, the Federal Trade Commission today reiterated that despite the claims made in e-mails circulating on the Internet, consumers should not be concerned that their cell phone numbers will be released to telemarketers at any time in the near future. In addition, according to the agency, it is not necessary to register cell phone numbers on the DNC Registry to be protected from most telemarketing calls to cell phones. The truth about cell phones and the DNC Registry is: Contrary to the e-mail, cell phone numbers are NOT being released to telemarketers, and you will NOT soon be getting telemarketing calls on your cell phone. There is NO deadline by which you must register your cell phone number on the Registry. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their cell phones without their consent. The national associations representing telemarketers have stated that their clients do not intend to start calling consumers’ cell phones. There is only ONE DNC Registry. There is no separate registry for cell phones. The DNC Registry accepts registrations from both cell phones and land lines. You must call from the phone number that you want to register. If you register online, you must respond to a confirmation e-mail. While the telecommunications industry has been discussing the possibility of creating a wireless 411 directory, according to the FCC, even if a wireless 411 directory is established, most telemarketing calls to cell phones would still be illegal, regardless of whether the number is listed on the federal government’s National Do Not Call Registry. For More Information To learn more about the National DNC Registry and the rules that enforce it, visit the FTC at www.ftc.gov or the FCC at www.fcc.gov. For more information about a planned “wireless 411” directory, visit http://www.qsent.com/wireless411. The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint in English or Spanish (bilingual counselors are available to take complaints), or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357), or use the complaint form at http://www.ftc.gov. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad. Media Contact: Mitchell J. Katz Office of Public Affairs 202-326-2161 Staff Contact: David Robbins Bureau of Consumer Protection 202-326-3747 On Oct 2, 2007, at 3:57 PM, gerald wrote: Cell phone numbers going public tomorrow REMINDERall cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies tomorrow and you will start to receive sale calls. .YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. one can also register here: https://donotcall.gov/ ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * List archive
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I was listening to NPR last night and they were discussing polls and how accurate they are as they do not call those who have only a cell phone. They mentioned that many pollsters do not call Cell phones as they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AUTOMATIC Dialers on cell phones and it is not worth their time or effort to manually dial cell phone numbers. Believe me telemarketers are not going to take the time to manually dial your cell phone number to sell you something. It is not cost effective. Stewart At 03:24 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). Richard P. Michel Lowe wrote: It's a good idea to register your LAND LINE with the do not call registry if you haven't already, but it is unnecessary for cell phones. -Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Yes, with increasing use of cell phones, especially by those who have no other phones (disproportionately younger folks so far) polling sampling accuracy is becoming more problematic. Maybe this will ultimately be a good thing, since polling now drives the political process as much as reflecting it. Randall - Original Message - From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call I was listening to NPR last night and they were discussing polls and how accurate they are as they do not call those who have only a cell phone. They mentioned that many pollsters do not call Cell phones as they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AUTOMATIC Dialers on cell phones and it is not worth their time or effort to manually dial cell phone numbers. Believe me telemarketers are not going to take the time to manually dial your cell phone number to sell you something. It is not cost effective. Stewart At 03:24 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: From the FTC website http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall Did you get an email claiming that your cell phone is about to be assaulted by telemarketing calls because of a new cell phone number database? Those claims are not true. In fact, federal law prohibits telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phones. You may place your personal cell phone number on the National Do Not Call Registry, but there is generally no reason to do so. For more information, see the FTC's press release The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 11:10 AM * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
At 04:06 PM 10/2/2007, you wrote: I think it is necessary to register cellphones (unless you enjoy wasting your time and minutes listening through all the voicemail spam before you are allowed to delete it). Ours were inundated until we put them on the list. We also got the occasional text message spam until we had it disabled. I don't know if text message spam is covered under Do Not Call (?). I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] OT:Cell phone do not call
Hear, Hear! I'm not a fan of cell phones either. They are frustrating to use, voice quality is poor at best and non-existent at worst, the battery is dead in a day (from my house) or in an hour (when I'm on vacation in the mountains), the contracts offered boil my blood, the phones break down well before the contract is out, and they are very expensive. But then I'm an old codger who likes viewing Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers movies. My young daughters use cell phones instead of land lines. Can't think why. They have finally given up trying to call my cell phone (either it doesn't work, or battery is dead, or I won't answer it because I can't find it). When they come to my house their own cell phones don't work well because I dwell in the wilderness: downtown Vienna, Virginia, just off the Capital Beltway. What I can't understand is why clothes haven't kept up with the modern trend in devices. My father always put his pocket watch in the pocket made in men's pants for the purpose. These were a snug pocket for watches on the right side of pants just underneath the belt -- all men's pants had them until about 1955. My father reluctantly had to switch to a wristwatch when the watch pocket was removed from pants. Today, there ought to be a separate pocket in everyone's clothes each for the cell phone, the GPS device, the iPod, the subcompact digital camera, the pocket PC (if it still exists), the digital passport, and a portable radio/tv. I think I have missed an important device that deserves its pocket! Sue Cubic wrote: I VERY rarely turn my cell phone on. I carry it for emergency or for my own convenience. I turned it on last week for the first time in probably 2 mo., and there were 8 voice mails. I guess you have to call a number to get them? It's a prepaid TracFone. I didn't. I finally figured out how to delete them. I've given that number to 2 friends plus the nursing home (who insist I sign my friend out to a phone number when I take her out). My friends know I don't have the phone on unless we've made those arrangements. So I'm pretty sure those were spam calls. I'm not going to spend my minutes calling to listen to spam voicemails. Or wrong numbers, if that's what it was. I use up my 500 minutes--or whatever it is that I'm required to buy each year--in calling some LD friends toward the end of my year. I honestly don't want people finding me when I'm not home. They can leave a msg at home and I'll call them back. Most ppl who know me know they can reach me on email just as fast anyway. I actually had to get rude with a woman who came into my shop today. We started our transaction, and her cell phone rang. She proceeded with a conversation with her daughter--simple chit-chat. Meanwhile, I'm standing there waiting to finish with her. I did finally say something to her. Like I had nothing better to do than to wait while she finished her conversation? Sue * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
