Re: [CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
On Aug 20, 2007, at 2:35 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I mention this because it's important to discuss computers and technology in relation to everything else. Where one technology is denigrated, misrepresented, or worse, denied, others can also be adversely affected. I have been clobbered by your passion! Steve * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
SciFri "The World is Flat" podcast linky: http://snipurl.com/1pq37 All SciFri podcasts: http://www.sciencefriday.com/feed/ August can also be the time for good rants! Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, let's hear more! Health care, religion, breaking 'Net Neutrality', poisoned food [this week it's "organic" soybeans from China], Katrina, impending Hurricane Dean, are all examples of how technology and everything else are being hurt by this incompetent gummint administration that hates gummint--that all needs to be fixed while we also fix technology. The future is bright when the idealogues step aside and make room for people who care to work toward a positive future for everyone. The future is bright when the corporate shills step aside to make room for conscientious, creative public servants who work for 'we, the people'. As of August 25th, we've lived in a passive solar home for 27 years--MidAtlantic region [heating/cooling cost this year ~ $300]. I see few other similar homes in the US. I still hear, see, read propaganda that indicates that our experience is nearly impossible, yet my neighbors and many others complain about how expensive energy is. There was another uninformed propaganda piece against [cheap] wind energy in yesterday's Delaware newspaper, claiming that wind turbines are dangerous, loud-- only a few days after I stopped in Somerset, PA to photograph the wind [turbines] farm which are quiet, stable, and a month after examining close-up another remarkably quiet, powerful wind farm in SW Portugal. I mention this because it's important to discuss computers and technology in relation to everything else. Where one technology is denigrated, misrepresented, or worse, denied, others can also be adversely affected. Betty Earlier today I was replaying a podcast of a Science Friday interview with Thomas Friedman about his recent book "The World is Flat." An important part of Friedman book is a warning about the USA's mismanagement of technology. Much like the post here about Gov. Rick Perry's line-item veto of $2.7 million of education funding. Friedman spoke of Bush's slashing of funding for the National Science Foundation and scientific research in general. Friedman decried a management style that did not value asking questions because all questions were answered by ideology (wasn't this in vogue during a period of history called the Dark Ages?). Friedman also pointed out that if the USA stops getting it right the rest of the world will get it right and the USA will be left behind in the world of technology and the general world economy. So in a bigger sense the recent discussion of health care and Bill Nye is about broken computers. Just not computers that are already broken. Some of us are trying to figure out how to keep our computers from being broken in the future. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] The Topic [Was: Bill Nye, the anti-God "Science Guy"
>My question is a simple one. When did this list get hijacked by >extremists who think it's a forum to insist on socialized medicine and to >bash Christians? This list frequently goes a little far afield in August. A few weeks ago one List member noted this and posted a provocative Mac vs Windows link, but got no takers. (Even though the material cited was quite good). This year health care and Bill Nye have gotten a good run. While literally not on topic I think these discussions reflect the context in which we do our computing. The reason there were so many posts is that people are becoming increasingly frustrated my the USA's mismanagement of technology and over emphasis on favoring a small number of entrenched, anti-innovative corporations. Earlier today I was replaying a podcast of a Science Friday interview with Thomas Friedman about his recent book "The World is Flat." An important part of Friedman book is a warning about the USA's mismanagement of technology. Much like the post here about Gov. Rick Perry's line-item veto of $2.7 million of education funding. Friedman spoke of Bush's slashing of funding for the National Science Foundation and scientific research in general. Friedman decried a management style that did not value asking questions because all questions were answered by ideology (wasn't this in vogue during a period of history called the Dark Ages?). Friedman also pointed out that if the USA stops getting it right the rest of the world will get it right and the USA will be left behind in the world of technology and the general world economy. So in a bigger sense the recent discussion of health care and Bill Nye is about broken computers. Just not computers that are already broken. Some of us are trying to figure out how to keep our computers from being broken in the future. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
