Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives
On Feb 19, 2008 9:21 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strangely, now that I get my email via gmail's AJAX web interface, > I've sort of had to unlearn filters, since they instead offer these > newfangled 'labels'. Ah well. Maybe I'll go back to using an old local > email client with no filters at all. Or not. > If you are lazy, you can still use Gmail labels like filters. Turn off the inbox label and it isn't in your inbox any more. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives
Well, I'm glad you didn't mistakenly think anyone said you HAD to do it the right way! :) But after all this time, one might think you'd have learned all about email filters. This type of thing is what they're for. Strangely, now that I get my email via gmail's AJAX web interface, I've sort of had to unlearn filters, since they instead offer these newfangled 'labels'. Ah well. Maybe I'll go back to using an old local email client with no filters at all. Or not. On Feb 19, 2008 9:05 PM, John A. Newitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:59 AM -0500 2/19/08, Tony B wrote: > > >Firstly, make sure you aren't subscribed to the digest. It makes no > >sense to subscribe to a digest (that combines messages) and then break > >the messages apart later. You are not saving bandwidth or anything, > >you're only delaying delivery, making timely participation impossible. > >Not to mention adding a whole layer of unnecessary complexity. > > That's what makes the USA great. I don't have to do it the way Tony > sez. I like getting it as a digest. I don't read them until later at > night or days later, so timeliness is not an issue for me anyway. I > only occasionally post to the list, and I don't need to be the first > one with a snappy come-back to a post. I started doing it this way > long ago shortly after I first subscribed to Computerguys-L. There > were a lot of posts, and having them constantly coming in each time I > checked my mail and mixing with my work email was too distracting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] brute force solution Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives
Tom, thanks for the lead. Here's a brute force solution it led to: 1. Copied a file to the "Local Folders" folder somewhere under ...\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\... . 2. Tried deleting the file extension or changing it to mbox. Each way worked when I tested it. 3. Started Thunderbird. Went to the local folder that just appeared. Voila! Thunderbird builds the msf file it uses. It turns out that the untyped files in the above folder are in mbox format (as far as I can tell). In the past, I've backed up some Local Folder folders just by copying the corresponding file. Now I know I can use this for the extracts as well. This will be very helpful and save me lots of time and effort. Who knew? Thanks again. -Andy Tom Piwowar wrote: This is very timely. I'd like to expand (don't want to use that other "ex" word) some email archive files that are open and available to the public. These files are from some public mailing lists, they are text files (generally one file per month's worth of traffic), and they often are named ".mail". The purpose is to extract and organize messages having certain specific threads/subjects. It would be great if I could open/import/convert such a file and use an email client to see it as a folder or mailbox of individual messages. Saving a file of a useful subset of extracted messages would be nice, too. Any suggestions? Maybe it's as simple as changing the file extension and using the right client? Good chance that these are in "mailbox" format. You can Google that and examine the files to see if they look like that. Unfortunately there are different flavors of mailbox format and different programs handle different flavors. Thunderbird and Eudora should handle some of them. You can find converter scripts on the Web. /snip/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives
Thanks, good point, but it doesn't apply here. These archives date back years, and in any case I wasn't subscribed to them at the time. I'm now researching mailbox formats as Tom just suggested. -Andy Tony B wrote: Firstly, make sure you aren't subscribed to the digest. It makes no sense to subscribe to a digest (that combines messages) and then break the messages apart later. You are not saving bandwidth or anything, you're only delaying delivery, making timely participation impossible. Not to mention adding a whole layer of unnecessary complexity. On Feb 19, 2008 10:19 AM, Andy Gallant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be great if I could open/import/convert such a file and use an email client to see it as a folder or mailbox of individual messages. /snip/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives
Firstly, make sure you aren't subscribed to the digest. It makes no sense to subscribe to a digest (that combines messages) and then break the messages apart later. You are not saving bandwidth or anything, you're only delaying delivery, making timely participation impossible. Not to mention adding a whole layer of unnecessary complexity. On Feb 19, 2008 10:19 AM, Andy Gallant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be great if I could open/import/convert such a file and use an > email client to see it as a folder or mailbox of individual messages. > > I get the MIME digest. The footer would show up between every message > > if I read it that way. But I use Eudora to read my digests, and I use > > its ability to "explode" MIME digests back into individual messages. > > So the way I see the digest is as a mailbox full of individual > > messages that can be sorted by subject, date, etc., and each with its > > own footer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] expanding archives (was Re: [CGUYS] Subject: Re: CG
>This is very timely. I'd like to expand (don't want to use that other >"ex" word) some email archive files that are open and available to the >public. These files are from some public mailing lists, they are text >files (generally one file per month's worth of traffic), and they often >are named ".mail". The purpose is to extract and organize >messages having certain specific threads/subjects. > >It would be great if I could open/import/convert such a file and use an >email client to see it as a folder or mailbox of individual messages. >Saving a file of a useful subset of extracted messages would be nice, too. > >Any suggestions? Maybe it's as simple as changing the file extension >and using the right client? Good chance that these are in "mailbox" format. You can Google that and examine the files to see if they look like that. Unfortunately there are different flavors of mailbox format and different programs handle different flavors. Thunderbird and Eudora should handle some of them. You can find converter scripts on the Web. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] expanding archives (was Re: [CGUYS] Subject: Re: CGUYS.ORG & Footer Updated)
This is very timely. I'd like to expand (don't want to use that other "ex" word) some email archive files that are open and available to the public. These files are from some public mailing lists, they are text files (generally one file per month's worth of traffic), and they often are named ".mail". The purpose is to extract and organize messages having certain specific threads/subjects. It would be great if I could open/import/convert such a file and use an email client to see it as a folder or mailbox of individual messages. Saving a file of a useful subset of extracted messages would be nice, too. The base machine for this is WinXP Pro - available clients so far are MS Outlook 03, Outlook Express (never use it), Mozilla Thunderbird, and Eudora (just downloaded and trying things). So far, nothing that I have tried does for me what John's configuration does (drat!). Googling hasn't turned up a workaround yet. Any suggestions? Maybe it's as simple as changing the file extension and using the right client? TIA. -Andy John A. Newitt wrote: /snip/ I get the MIME digest. The footer would show up between every message if I read it that way. But I use Eudora to read my digests, and I use its ability to "explode" MIME digests back into individual messages. So the way I see the digest is as a mailbox full of individual messages that can be sorted by subject, date, etc., and each with its own footer. - John * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
