Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-14 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Done.  I'll keep you posted.

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
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 Grant Ingersoll
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-09-14 Thread Grant Ingersoll
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-80 has been created to track the 
NTLM issue.  Sam Ruby is working w/ the ASF attorneys on this.  I don't know 
how long it will take.  In a separate thread, we should discuss 
workarounds/fallback plans so that we are prepared either way.

-Grant

On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Karl Wright wrote:

 +1 to both.
 
 Karl
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
 +1 to both - review of name and address the NTLM issue since ACF is getting
 closer to where an actual 0.1 release could be considered.
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Grant Ingersoll grant.ingers...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:35 PM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Pick your preferred name
 
 
 ACF passed the Incubator vote.
 
 My question to the community is do you want me to go to the Board and ask
 for advice on this since the Board ultimately approves any podling
 graduating?  One Director weighed in on the vote saying the Board wouldn't
 care, but in my view it was not an official opinion.
 
 I was actually thinking about asking the board for two things:
 1. View of the name
 2. Whether they have guidance on our repeated request  about NTLM and it's
 inclusion in any ACF release.  I believe someone was slated to engage with
 us a few months back, but I don't believe anyone has reached out to us yet.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -Grant
 
 On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
 Voting is now closed.
 
 Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
 
 Apache Connectors Framework 15
 Apache Manifold 11
 Apache Yukon 9
 Apache Macon 4
 Apache ManifoldCF 3
 Apache Omni 1
 Apache Acromantula 1
 Apache Lukon 1
 
 Karl
 
 
 --
 Grant Ingersoll
 http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
 
 

--
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8



What to do if NTLM is not accepted by ASF

2010-09-14 Thread Karl Wright
In a separate thread, we should discuss workarounds/fallback plans so
that we are prepared either way.

NTLM support of one form or another is critical for most of the
Windows-based repositories.  This includes SharePoint, Meridio, and
LiveLink.

For HttpClient 4.x, they went so far as to remove even 3.x's limited
support for NTLM.  What they did instead was to point you at jCIFS and
tell you how to write an authentication provider using some of the
jCIFS methods to do the proper signatures.  So, our options are
(appears to me):

(1) Get the NTLM implementation accepted, and preferably integrated
upstream into HttpClient 4.x.
(2) Convert everything to HttpClient 4.0, and either provide some kind
of reflection-based hook for it that will make use of jCIFS if it is
present, but fall back to no NTLM support if not, or better yet, add
an authentication provider registry to HttpClient 4.0 that would make
everyone's life easier in the long run.

Note that there's a real problem with testing here - I don't have
access to (say) a SharePoint server on an NTLMv2-protected domain
right now, so how are we to check whether this works?

Karl