[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-4) Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the proper projects

2010-03-05 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)

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Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-4:
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An HttpClient 4.x implementation will almost certainly occur, at some point.  
Exactly how that is done will depend on further information from Apache Legal, 
or from the httpclient team.  The NTLM concern feedback from Apache Legal 
seemed adequate to me - perhaps because I was not expecting a definitive 
ruling, though.




> Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the 
> proper projects
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>
> Key: CONNECTORS-4
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-4
> Project: Lucene Connector Framework
>  Issue Type: Task
>  Components: Framework agents process, Framework crawler agent, 
> LiveLink connector, Meridio connector, RSS connector, SharePoint connector, 
> Web connector
>Reporter: Karl Wright
>Assignee: Karl Wright
>
> The code granted by MetaCarta depends on certain specific feature additions 
> and changes MetaCarta made to some packages it depends upon, specifically 
> jCIFS, commons-httpclient, and xerces-j.  These changes should be percolated 
> accordingly.  They can be found in the tarball under the directory 
> "upstream-diffs".

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[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-4) Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the proper projects

2010-03-05 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski (JIRA)

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Oleg Kalnichevski commented on CONNECTORS-4:


Given there was no sensible response from the ASF legal (so far), yes, our 
decision stands. At the very least I will not be the guy to commit the patch 
and then end up being responsible. 

I am still of opinion you will be much better off moving to HttpClient 4.0 and 
giving the users an option of plugging in an NTLM implementation of their 
choosing through the extension mechanism provided by HttpClient

Oleg 

> Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the 
> proper projects
> -
>
> Key: CONNECTORS-4
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-4
> Project: Lucene Connector Framework
>  Issue Type: Task
>  Components: Framework agents process, Framework crawler agent, 
> LiveLink connector, Meridio connector, RSS connector, SharePoint connector, 
> Web connector
>Reporter: Karl Wright
>Assignee: Karl Wright
>
> The code granted by MetaCarta depends on certain specific feature additions 
> and changes MetaCarta made to some packages it depends upon, specifically 
> jCIFS, commons-httpclient, and xerces-j.  These changes should be percolated 
> accordingly.  They can be found in the tarball under the directory 
> "upstream-diffs".

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[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-4) Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the proper projects

2010-03-05 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)

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Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-4:
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After some research, we determined that NTLM implementations were not covered 
by Microsoft patent.  However, httpclient's decisions still stand.  The changes 
to xerces2-j also were rejected, but for no given reason.

Therefore, I've created an "upstream" directory under trunk, and copied the 
appropriate upstream sources from their location in the repository, then 
overlaid the required LCF changes.  This should, at least, furnish 
reproducibility to anyone needing to further patch (or bring in patches) for 
these upstream products.



> Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the 
> proper projects
> -
>
> Key: CONNECTORS-4
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-4
> Project: Lucene Connector Framework
>  Issue Type: Task
>  Components: Framework agents process, Framework crawler agent, 
> LiveLink connector, Meridio connector, RSS connector, SharePoint connector, 
> Web connector
>Reporter: Karl Wright
>Assignee: Karl Wright
>
> The code granted by MetaCarta depends on certain specific feature additions 
> and changes MetaCarta made to some packages it depends upon, specifically 
> jCIFS, commons-httpclient, and xerces-j.  These changes should be percolated 
> accordingly.  They can be found in the tarball under the directory 
> "upstream-diffs".

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[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-4) Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the proper projects

2010-02-24 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)

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Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-4:
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HttpClient team wants us to upgrade to their latest release, which is 4.1.  
They claim this fixes 2 of the 3 patches I submitted.  For the record, the 
patches were submitted under tickets:

HTTPCLIENT-917
HTTPCLIENT-918
HTTPCLIENT-919

The one they rejected outright was ticket HTTPCLIENT-919, for reasons that they 
believed it violated Apache policy as pertaining to potential IP infringement, 
specifically because NTLM is a proprietary authentication and authorization 
scheme.  There was no indication that they were aware of any specific patent 
issues, but that apparently is not the key point.

If this reasoning stands, I intend to create two additional tickets - one for 
moving to HttpClient 4.1, and one for modifying the build scripts to obtain an 
appropriate NTLM implementation from some non-Apache open-source project.


> Submit other package changes supplied with software grant upstream to the 
> proper projects
> -
>
> Key: CONNECTORS-4
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-4
> Project: Lucene Connector Framework
>  Issue Type: Task
>Reporter: Karl Wright
>Assignee: Karl Wright
>
> The code granted by MetaCarta depends on certain specific feature additions 
> and changes MetaCarta made to some packages it depends upon, specifically 
> jCIFS, commons-httpclient, and xerces-j.  These changes should be percolated 
> accordingly.  They can be found in the tarball under the directory 
> "upstream-diffs".

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