Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

2010-08-23 Thread Jettro Coenradie
+1 for a complete change

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 to renaming the package - nows the time.

 - Mark

 http://www.lucidimagination.com (mobile)

 On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

  +1
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  --
  From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:49 PM
  To: connectors-dev connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not
 
  Consider this an official request for a vote.
 
  +1 indicates you think we should change the following in the source
 code, as
  soon as is practical:
 
  org.apache.lcf.xxx - org.apache.acf.xxx
  All classes LCF.java and LCFException.java should change to ACF.java and
  ACFException.java
 
  Bear in mind that users of ACF/LCF who currently have existing database
  instances will need to reinitialize those instances if we do this
 change.
  This is because the class names of connectors are stored in the database
  when the connector is registered.
 
  (FWIW, my vote on this is -1.  It doesn't seem worth the disruption.
  But I
  will of course abide by the consensus.)
 
  Vote will be considered closed by Wednesday evening, so vote early (and
  often. ;-))
  Karl




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Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

2010-08-23 Thread Simon Willnauer
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jettro Coenradie
jettro.coenra...@gridshore.nl wrote:
 If we are changing stuff can we also use more descriptive names. Not Use LCF
 4 to 5 times in a different Package. Use something like ACFAgent and
 ACFCrawler
+1  for that too!

simon

 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Jettro Coenradie 
 jettro.coenra...@gridshore.nl wrote:

 +1 for a complete change


 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.comwrote:

 +1 to renaming the package - nows the time.

 - Mark

 http://www.lucidimagination.com (mobile)

 On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Jack Krupansky 
 jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

  +1
 
  -- Jack Krupansky
 
  --
  From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:49 PM
  To: connectors-dev connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not
 
  Consider this an official request for a vote.
 
  +1 indicates you think we should change the following in the source
 code, as
  soon as is practical:
 
  org.apache.lcf.xxx - org.apache.acf.xxx
  All classes LCF.java and LCFException.java should change to ACF.java
 and
  ACFException.java
 
  Bear in mind that users of ACF/LCF who currently have existing database
  instances will need to reinitialize those instances if we do this
 change.
  This is because the class names of connectors are stored in the
 database
  when the connector is registered.
 
  (FWIW, my vote on this is -1.  It doesn't seem worth the disruption.
  But I
  will of course abide by the consensus.)
 
  Vote will be considered closed by Wednesday evening, so vote early (and
  often. ;-))
  Karl




 --
 Jettro Coenradie
 http://www.gridshore.nl




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 Jettro Coenradie
 http://www.gridshore.nl



RE: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

2010-08-23 Thread karl.wright
In any open-source project there is expected to be some differences in 
individual coding styles.  There is often also incomplete understanding of the 
reasoning behind the multitude of architectural decisions made during 
development, or the history of the project.  It is thus important to be 
pragmatic, and therefore each issue or question is basically its own topic, 
evaluated on its own merits.

Probably the best way to deal with each *individual* concern or question is to 
open a jira ticket expressing that concern.  Discussion should then be done 
within the context of that ticket.  There is no guarantee, of course, that the 
ticket will be acted upon, but at least it will be discussed.

Karl


From: jettro.coenra...@gmail.com [jettro.coenra...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ext 
Jettro Coenradie [jettro.coenra...@gridshore.nl]
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:17 AM
To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

I can understand that it is harder to do. Therefore it is better notto do it
right now. I do not agree with you that it is easier to move files from one
package to another. The fact that these classes have different impact should
make you think before moving the classes. I would like to discuss on some of
these design/code issues more as well. What is the best way to do this? Ask
a question per topic to share opinions?

thanks Jettro

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, karl.wri...@nokia.com wrote:

 Unfortunately that is way harder to do using the python scripts I have
 developed for this purpose.  Also, the reason the LCF root class appears in
 different packages has to do with the relative ease that grants to moving
 classes between the various acf jars.  So I'd consider this proposed change
 to be controversial, and I don't think we should layer it in without
 separate consideration.

 Karl

 
 From: ext Simon Willnauer [simon.willna...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:40 AM
 To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jettro Coenradie
 jettro.coenra...@gridshore.nl wrote:
  If we are changing stuff can we also use more descriptive names. Not Use
 LCF
  4 to 5 times in a different Package. Use something like ACFAgent and
  ACFCrawler
 +1  for that too!

 simon
 
  On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Jettro Coenradie 
  jettro.coenra...@gridshore.nl wrote:
 
  +1 for a complete change
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  +1 to renaming the package - nows the time.
 
  - Mark
 
  http://www.lucidimagination.com (mobile)
 
  On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Jack Krupansky 
  jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
 
   +1
  
   -- Jack Krupansky
  
   --
   From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
   Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:49 PM
   To: connectors-dev connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
   Subject: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not
  
   Consider this an official request for a vote.
  
   +1 indicates you think we should change the following in the source
  code, as
   soon as is practical:
  
   org.apache.lcf.xxx - org.apache.acf.xxx
   All classes LCF.java and LCFException.java should change to ACF.java
  and
   ACFException.java
  
   Bear in mind that users of ACF/LCF who currently have existing
 database
   instances will need to reinitialize those instances if we do this
  change.
   This is because the class names of connectors are stored in the
  database
   when the connector is registered.
  
   (FWIW, my vote on this is -1.  It doesn't seem worth the disruption.
   But I
   will of course abide by the consensus.)
  
   Vote will be considered closed by Wednesday evening, so vote early
 (and
   often. ;-))
   Karl
 
 
 
 
  --
  Jettro Coenradie
  http://www.gridshore.nl
 
 
 
 
  --
  Jettro Coenradie
  http://www.gridshore.nl
 




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Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

2010-08-22 Thread Jack Krupansky

+1

-- Jack Krupansky

--
From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:49 PM
To: connectors-dev connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not


Consider this an official request for a vote.

+1 indicates you think we should change the following in the source code, 
as

soon as is practical:

org.apache.lcf.xxx - org.apache.acf.xxx
All classes LCF.java and LCFException.java should change to ACF.java and
ACFException.java

Bear in mind that users of ACF/LCF who currently have existing database
instances will need to reinitialize those instances if we do this change.
This is because the class names of connectors are stored in the database
when the connector is registered.

(FWIW, my vote on this is -1.  It doesn't seem worth the disruption.  But 
I

will of course abide by the consensus.)

Vote will be considered closed by Wednesday evening, so vote early (and
often. ;-))
Karl



Re: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not

2010-08-22 Thread Mark Miller
+1 to renaming the package - nows the time. 

- Mark

http://www.lucidimagination.com (mobile)

On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Jack Krupansky 
jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com wrote:

 +1
 
 -- Jack Krupansky
 
 --
 From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 1:49 PM
 To: connectors-dev connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Need an opinion, on whether to change package or not
 
 Consider this an official request for a vote.
 
 +1 indicates you think we should change the following in the source code, as
 soon as is practical:
 
 org.apache.lcf.xxx - org.apache.acf.xxx
 All classes LCF.java and LCFException.java should change to ACF.java and
 ACFException.java
 
 Bear in mind that users of ACF/LCF who currently have existing database
 instances will need to reinitialize those instances if we do this change.
 This is because the class names of connectors are stored in the database
 when the connector is registered.
 
 (FWIW, my vote on this is -1.  It doesn't seem worth the disruption.  But I
 will of course abide by the consensus.)
 
 Vote will be considered closed by Wednesday evening, so vote early (and
 often. ;-))
 Karl