[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
I got to premier this at the pre-NEFFA caller showcase last night. It seemed to go well! https://www.facebook.com/juliancalls/videos/614416073608212/ On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:34 PM Julian Blechner < juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm doubting that this can be so simple and > I'm triple-guessing myself. > > Yeah, original. > > Progress and swing neighbor on Lark's home side. > Trade one role to be opposite neighbor. > Top or bottom couple do Contra Corners > Pass Neighbor, swing partner somehow. > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:31 PM Julian Blechner < > juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, crossed wires and hit send before final proofing. >> >> A2 would need to amount to a zero move, so: >> >> Chain + Back, or >> LLFB+Rollaway x2 or >> R+L Thru + Back >> >> Etc. >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner < >> juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role >>> contra corners from Becket position. >>> >>> A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and >>> you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler >>> ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first >>> to figure this out, eh? >>> >>> (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) >>> Becket >>> >>> A1. Circle L 3/4 >>>NS >>> A2. Robins Chain >>>LLFB* >>> B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** >>>Same Couples Pass R, to P >>> B2. P B + S >>>... slide L to New Ns >>> >>> * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles >>> ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - >>> who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for >>> people, always. >>> >>> Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor >>> swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a >>> neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be >>> written. >>> >>> >>> In dance, >>> Julian Blechner >>> >> ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
I like the concept of the "tight courtesy turn" - in effect achieving the same goal as the half-slice. Neat! On Wed, Apr 19, 2023, 1:35 PM Don Veino wrote: > See My Hovercraft is Full of Eels by Luke Donforth for another mixed CC. I > have an unpublished riff off that called Alternative Transport (not near > my cards or I'd provide the choreo) which can alternate easily. > > And just for another take for swings out of CC, there's this (definitely > not beginner friendly) one: > > Contraventional Corners (Rev 2) - Becket RIGHT/CCW - Don Veino, Revised > 20190329 > Your Shadow is past your PNR if facing up/down from hands 4. > > A1 Slice Right 1+1/2x (forward on right diag. until NEW GENTS are face to > face, fall straight back) > Gents Turn 1/2 Reverse Contra Corners (LH w/NBR1 GNT Center, RH with NBR1 > LDY) > > A2 Gents Turn 1/2 Reverse Contra Corners (LH w/NBR1 GNT Center, RH with > NBR2 LDY) > end facing back along side to NBR1 Swing > > B1 NBR1 Promenade Across (Past PNR) and tight Courtesy Turn to face across > (end so Ladies are directly opposite each other like the Gents were) > Ladies Turn 1/2 Contra Corners (RH w/NBR1 LDY, LH with PNR) > > B2 Ladies Turn 1/2 Contra Corners (RH w/NBR1 LDY, LH with Shadow) > end facing back along side to PNR Swing > > First time through could be on slight right diagonal (Slice 1/2x) so > original foursome gents start the A1 CC, with ghost corners for the 2s. > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:34 PM Julian Blechner via Contra Callers < > contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm doubting that this can be so simple and >> I'm triple-guessing myself. >> >> Yeah, original. >> >> Progress and swing neighbor on Lark's home side. >> Trade one role to be opposite neighbor. >> Top or bottom couple do Contra Corners >> Pass Neighbor, swing partner somehow. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:31 PM Julian Blechner < >> juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, crossed wires and hit send before final proofing. >>> >>> A2 would need to amount to a zero move, so: >>> >>> Chain + Back, or >>> LLFB+Rollaway x2 or >>> R+L Thru + Back >>> >>> Etc. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner < >>> juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role contra corners from Becket position. A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first to figure this out, eh? (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) Becket A1. Circle L 3/4 NS A2. Robins Chain LLFB* B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** Same Couples Pass R, to P B2. P B + S ... slide L to New Ns * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for people, always. Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be written. In dance, Julian Blechner >>> ___ >> Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net >> > ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
See My Hovercraft is Full of Eels by Luke Donforth for another mixed CC. I have an unpublished riff off that called Alternative Transport (not near my cards or I'd provide the choreo) which can alternate easily. And just for another take for swings out of CC, there's this (definitely not beginner friendly) one: Contraventional Corners (Rev 2) - Becket RIGHT/CCW - Don Veino, Revised 20190329 Your Shadow is past your PNR if facing up/down from hands 4. A1 Slice Right 1+1/2x (forward on right diag. until NEW GENTS are face to face, fall straight back) Gents Turn 1/2 Reverse Contra Corners (LH w/NBR1 GNT Center, RH with NBR1 LDY) A2 Gents Turn 1/2 Reverse Contra Corners (LH w/NBR1 GNT Center, RH with NBR2 LDY) end facing back along side to NBR1 Swing B1 NBR1 Promenade Across (Past PNR) and tight Courtesy Turn to face across (end so Ladies are directly opposite each other like the Gents were) Ladies Turn 1/2 Contra Corners (RH w/NBR1 LDY, LH with PNR) B2 Ladies Turn 1/2 Contra Corners (RH w/NBR1 LDY, LH with Shadow) end facing back along side to PNR Swing First time through could be on slight right diagonal (Slice 1/2x) so original foursome gents start the A1 CC, with ghost corners for the 2s. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:34 PM Julian Blechner via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm doubting that this can be so simple and > I'm triple-guessing myself. > > Yeah, original. > > Progress and swing neighbor on Lark's home side. > Trade one role to be opposite neighbor. > Top or bottom couple do Contra Corners > Pass Neighbor, swing partner somehow. > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:31 PM Julian Blechner < > juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, crossed wires and hit send before final proofing. >> >> A2 would need to amount to a zero move, so: >> >> Chain + Back, or >> LLFB+Rollaway x2 or >> R+L Thru + Back >> >> Etc. >> >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner < >> juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role >>> contra corners from Becket position. >>> >>> A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and >>> you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler >>> ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first >>> to figure this out, eh? >>> >>> (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) >>> Becket >>> >>> A1. Circle L 3/4 >>>NS >>> A2. Robins Chain >>>LLFB* >>> B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** >>>Same Couples Pass R, to P >>> B2. P B + S >>>... slide L to New Ns >>> >>> * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles >>> ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - >>> who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for >>> people, always. >>> >>> Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor >>> swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a >>> neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be >>> written. >>> >>> >>> In dance, >>> Julian Blechner >>> >> ___ > Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net > To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net > ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
I heard from Chris Page, on a FB post in a choreo group. He thought of the contra-corners-from-Becket, with: Twirly Corners Becket A1 Slice left while partner roll away Top/Bottom pair do-si-do in center A2 Top/Bottom pair turn contra corners B1 Top/Bottom pair balance and swing B2 Partner balance and swing I'll add this to my box, too, but, what I think is the interesting thing to play with is integrating Jim Kitch's contra corners exit where you skip the swing in the middle and swing your partner instead. This means we can have a contra corners dance which: - solves the issue of "many dancers don't like it when you only get to swing your partner half the time" with contra corners dances where partners are doing the move - leaves _half_ of a square tune for other choreo. Normally, we spend 3/4 of a dance setting up contra corners, doing them, and having the swing at the end. I think this is why we all have Alternative Corners and Labor of Love in our boxes, and anything else is advanced level. - has the partner as an anchor, mitigating the issue of "new dancers have trouble with this move and can't recover quickly after it doesn't go well" I'm going to give my original a whirl at a dance this week. (Buttered Corners - circle L 3/4, NS, Chain, Lines, CC, P B+S, slide left progression) I'd love to hear more thoughts and feedback. In dance, Julian Blechner On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner wrote: > So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role contra > corners from Becket position. > > A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and > you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler > ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first > to figure this out, eh? > > (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) > Becket > > A1. Circle L 3/4 >NS > A2. Robins Chain >LLFB* > B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** >Same Couples Pass R, to P > B2. P B + S >... slide L to New Ns > > * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles > ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - > who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for > people, always. > > Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor > swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a > neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be > written. > > > In dance, > Julian Blechner > ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm doubting that this can be so simple and I'm triple-guessing myself. Yeah, original. Progress and swing neighbor on Lark's home side. Trade one role to be opposite neighbor. Top or bottom couple do Contra Corners Pass Neighbor, swing partner somehow. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:31 PM Julian Blechner wrote: > Sorry, crossed wires and hit send before final proofing. > > A2 would need to amount to a zero move, so: > > Chain + Back, or > LLFB+Rollaway x2 or > R+L Thru + Back > > Etc. > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner < > juliancallsdan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role >> contra corners from Becket position. >> >> A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and >> you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler >> ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first >> to figure this out, eh? >> >> (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) >> Becket >> >> A1. Circle L 3/4 >>NS >> A2. Robins Chain >>LLFB* >> B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** >>Same Couples Pass R, to P >> B2. P B + S >>... slide L to New Ns >> >> * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles >> ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - >> who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for >> people, always. >> >> Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor >> swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a >> neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be >> written. >> >> >> In dance, >> Julian Blechner >> > ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
[Callers] Re: Choreo q - contra corners variations
Sorry, crossed wires and hit send before final proofing. A2 would need to amount to a zero move, so: Chain + Back, or LLFB+Rollaway x2 or R+L Thru + Back Etc. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:21 PM Julian Blechner wrote: > So... it occurred to me that it'd be really easy to do a mixed-role contra > corners from Becket position. > > A few weeks ago, I danced Jim Kitch's Equinox, which had a fun setup and > you finish Contra Corners by passing R , but ... do people know any simpler > ways? Like, for example, dance below. I can't possibly have been the first > to figure this out, eh? > > (If not written yet: Buttered Corners) > Becket > > A1. Circle L 3/4 >NS > A2. Robins Chain >LLFB* > B1. Bottom couples Contra Corners** >Same Couples Pass R, to P > B2. P B + S >... slide L to New Ns > > * opportunity in the lines for partners to rollaway to swap roles > ** and can alternate top couples, bottom couples, doing bottom couples - > who were original 1s - first. This way, the top of the set has corners for > people, always. > > Like, literally this gives 16 measures to progress and have a neighbor > swing if you want. If we opened up to the idea of contra corners with a > neighbor from Becket, it opens up immense numbers of dances that can be > written. > > > In dance, > Julian Blechner > ___ Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-le...@lists.sharedweight.net
