Re: [Cooker] 7.1 Final ISOs
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pixel wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The coder should be taken outside and shot, as should Mandrake QA. thanks for the advice. makes quite a few happy people here (does it hurt a lot, i'm one of "The coder" :) Pixel, I know you are a coder (and a very good one, might I say). Metaphorically shot only, of course. But there is a valuable message in there, isn't there? If your rpm calls find a bad rpm, the return value should indicate that fact to you (don't know whether it does), and you should never just ignore such a situation. the pb is that rpmlib doesn't tell so. Or at least i have to scan the install.log to know that. I've already added this: die _("Some important packages didn't get installed properly. Either your cdrom drive or your cdrom is defective. Check the cdrom on an installed computer using \"rpm -qpl Mandrake/RPMS/*.rpm\" ") if grep { m|read failed: Input/output error| } cat_("$o-{prefix}/root/install.log"); could you give the install.log you got? thanks, cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] 7.1 b3 usb zip drive is detected but won't mount
Tim Val Litwiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this something that setup forgot to do? or why was modules.dep wrong? nothing wrong just depmod tell you to regenerate your modules.dep after doing modification to the /etc/conf.modules -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com In travel.--Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] 7.1 Final ISOs
Pixel wrote: the pb is that rpmlib doesn't tell so. Or at least i have to scan the install.log to know that. I've already added this: die _("Some important packages didn't get installed properly. Either your cdrom drive or your cdrom is defective. Check the cdrom on an installed computer using \"rpm -qpl Mandrake/RPMS/*.rpm\" ") if grep { m|read failed: Input/output error| } cat_("$o-{prefix}/root/install.log"); could you give the install.log you got? Below: package applnk not listed in file index perl-libnet-1.0606-4.i586.rpm kvideogen-1.2-1.i586.rpm drakxtools-1.0-44mdk.i586.rpm This is for a vanilla UK English custom development install with no further package selection. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
Re: [Cooker] 7.1 Final ISOs
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pixel wrote: the pb is that rpmlib doesn't tell so. Or at least i have to scan the install.log to know that. I've already added this: die _("Some important packages didn't get installed properly. Either your cdrom drive or your cdrom is defective. Check the cdrom on an installed computer using \"rpm -qpl Mandrake/RPMS/*.rpm\" ") if grep { m|read failed: Input/output error| } cat_("$o-{prefix}/root/install.log"); could you give the install.log you got? Below: package applnk not listed in file index were they all this error?
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. Harry Henry Gebel wrote: I installed cooker from rsync last weekend, and was able to get everything working but sound, I asked about it on the list but no one was able to help, I am asking again because this is problem is really starting to get to me, I REALLY like cooker/7.1 but if I cannot get sound working I will have to switch back to 7.0 (which set up the sound card with no intervention from me except running Lothar). I consider sound support a necessity. HardDrake succesfully detected my sound card as: Vendor: Advance Logic Model: ALS-110 Bus type: ISA MPU401: yes OPL3: yes DMA2/16: yes This is the correct information, when I click "run configuration tool" a window comes up with IRQ, I/O base, etc. Under Mandrake 7.0 I just clicked OK here and sound worked after that, but on cooker the window just goes away when I click OK and sound still does not work. I tried running (as root) `/etc/rc.d/init.d/sound start` but it simply goes strait back to the command prompt; in Mandrake 7.0 I am pretty sure it gave a message to the effect that sound was being loaded and an indication of whether it succeeded or not, but with cooker it appears to instantly return to the command prompt with no output whatsoever. I looked inside the script, and I am not a terribly good shell programmer but it looks like I should be seeing the messages Loading sound module Loading midi module And I do not see these messages when I run 'sound start'. I also looks like it loads the modules by searching in /etc/conf.modules for the strings "sound", "sound-slot-0", and "midi" and modprobeing the modules it finds there. I think that this is the failure point because here is my /etc/conf.modules : alias scsi_hostadapter1 ppa post-install usb-storage modprobe usbkbd; modprobe keybdev alias scsi_hostadapter usb-storage alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 /proc/parport/0/irq alias block-major-11 scsi_hostadapter alias usb-interface usb-uhci pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start post-install supermount modprobe scsi_hostadapter ; modprobe scsi_hostadapter1 There is no reference to any sound modules, I thought that HardDrake was supposed to put the appropriate references there am I wrong about this or is HardDrake failing somehow? I am ashamed to say that as much as I like sound, I have never learned about how OSS works; relying instead on RedHat's and Mandrake's sound configuration programs to figure out the correct lines for conf.modules; so I do not know on my own what lines to put here. If I had been smart I would have copied the conf.modules from 7.0 before installing cooker, but I wasn't smart so here I am now. I have faith that you guys can help me if I give you enough info, so if I am not giving enough information please tell me what you need to know. PS, I do not have any USB equipment, so is it safe for me to remove all those usb lines? I rmmod all the modules but they just show up in /proc/modules again when I reboot. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
[Cooker] netscape font problems
I installed the netscape 4.73 128-bit and mozillafonts from cooker on a 7.0 system. Now it seems like I don't get bold fonts anymore. seb
[Cooker] Sound modules - VIA Chipset - Info Only
Hello I have a ASUS CUV4X based on VIA® 694X/694Z AGPset 133MHz AGPset with VT82C686A South Bridge chipsets. The sound capabilities of this chipset is not being picked up correctly - is this a script error or isn't enabled in the default kernel (dmesg gives the impression that it is but not working correctly). I'm new to linux and loaded the distribution out of curiosity and realise it is not final but something clearly is amiss. - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/scc/ -
Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation
HP JetDirect cards have three preconfigured queues: postscript, ascii, and raw. You can also use a telnet stream at port 9100. - Original Message - From: "Danny W. Burdick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Printer config at the installation diablero wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:17:22AM -0700, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: Hi Yesterday I again tried the latest beta, and was again surprised with the printer config menu: "Text printer| HP DJ | Postscript". It would frustrate even an experienced user. What if I have an HP LJ?! The new system is not user friendly, you need to open three different windows to configure a new lp. The older printtool was far easy to use. Alexander -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.epita.fr/~epx Can someone tell me why I can't print to my network printer. I have an HP DirectJet connected to an el cheapo epson 400 and set it up as a remote printer named epson with it's ip 192.168.1.150 for it's hostname and I have no idea what to put for a queue name it has no named server it's hooked to a printer driver devicehehe It doesn't work from my Linuxbut does in W98...not acceptable...agent mulder..hehe Danny --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] So, if 7.1 is now final...
That's the way that RedHat works, too. If I remember the RH doc set, every user is their own group, but can also be member of various "project" groups. - Original Message - From: "John Cavan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] So, if 7.1 is now final... Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: John Cavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. When you create a normal user at install time it also creates a group that matches the user. That means I get john:john instead of john:users this is the standard way on our distribution, a user has a group and after the administrator manage to set him on a different group. It may be the standard way on Mandrake, but it's not a standard way for Unix... it is unexpected behaviour and you do have a group labled "users" which I assume is for this purpose. It's not a big problem or anything, I just can't see the reason for doing it that way. The last thing any of us would want is a hundred different groups with the exact same name as the user IDs in the system. John --- Jonathan M. Prigot
Re: [Cooker] netscape font problems
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: I installed the netscape 4.73 128-bit and mozillafonts from cooker on a 7.0 system. Now it seems like I don't get bold fonts anymore. And now it seems like it works. I'm getting mad. seb
Re: [Cooker] netscape font problems
DON'T GET MAD.. the Penguin doesn't know whether or not your peeved so it won't make a bit of difference.. everyone seems to be having that problem lately. hand on... someone will figure it out. Skip Heine Wildwood, NJ http://www.delanet.com/~skiph/ - Original Message - From: Sebastian Dransfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] netscape font problems On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: I installed the netscape 4.73 128-bit and mozillafonts from cooker on a 7.0 system. Now it seems like I don't get bold fonts anymore. And now it seems like it works. I'm getting mad. seb
[Cooker] X problem
There is one very annoying problem with the current DrakX. It selects the SVGA server for AllInWonder 128(16Meg) instead of Mach 64. SVGA one doesn't work Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
[Cooker] off subject? new feature?
Seems like everytime I write here I forget something I feel is important. Is it me or is the PRINT DIALOG box different for every Linux app? I see so many different types all with different options. Is there no 'standard' print dialog box layout under Linux? One Option I feel that is sorely missed is being able to print only certain pages: ie. choices should be - Print whole document, print current page, print page XX to XX. When printing out web pages, I use the last option the most under Windows. I haven't seen ANYTHING like that under Linux yet in ANY program. Maybe Mandrake 8? [grin] Gary Russell Maryville, TN Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[Cooker] Fatal errors.
Hello, I realise that recently reporting anything fatal has put one into the Leper colony, but here goes ! On three occassions now my Mandrake system has locked solid. So solid in fact that I have had to take the power off and remove the battery (oh yes, it's a laptop). Although Window$ can be flaky, and has on a couple of occassions trashed my hard disk (but then so has Linux !), never, NEVER has it locked my machine so badly that I've had to remove the battery !!! I mean, remove the battery ? That is some kind of deep lock up ! What is more there isn't even a core dump, so I cannot even investigate it. First time it happened I was attempting to load a web page using Netscape. Naturally I just blamed Netscape ! Poor old Netscape, seems to be the scape goat for far to many failings. Second time the Morph 3D screen saver was running, but the system failed to come out of screen saver mode, instead it just locked solid ! The third time I was typing this e-mail ! Recently there has been a flurry of e-mails critisizing Mandrake for rushing releases to the detriment of quality. Indeed I e-mailed Mandrake just before the release of 7.0 sounding off about the dubious quality of certain aspects. However, on reflection, I was about to write a reply stating my revised point of view that if you wanted rock solid stability then go to another distro.. If you enjoy getting what's new ('cutting edge' if you will), but taking a few risks, then stick with Mandrake. Now what should I say ? This kind of deep seated lock up surely needs to be avoided !? I was due to give a demo of Linux to one of my M$ centric work colleagues. However, I now feel that I cannot while the system keeps locking so fataly. Imagine his delight if the system were to lock in front of him. His jaundiced view would be sealed for ever. I don't believe that I am running anything 'bad'. Indeed, how could I ? I just use Mandrake Cooker stuff these days ! Maybe, I say with caution, Mandrake should slow up for a while to reflect on this and other 'one off' problem reports and just see if there is anything in them. Too often people get very short shrift when their problem 'cannot be reproduced'. I know that these problems are very real. Maybe people are a little cautious these days of reporting 'one off' problems for fear of getting shot down in flames. I now have two very bad lock up problems. A complete lockup when the BIOS issues a suspend to disc, and now this. But does anybody really care ? I know these types of problems are a pain in the butt. Most of my '9 to 5' work is bug fixing, so I know ! Maybe the difference is that if I don't find a solution I have to answer to someone ! (intentional though provoker, sorry this is Linux, I mean flame bait ;-) ) Rant over, Owen
[Cooker] adduser from debian
Can we add adduser from Debian ? It's a Perl script which for all the param of useradd (name, shell etc.) Thanks. -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.epita.fr/~epx
Re: [Cooker] off subject? new feature?
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 03:54:24PM -0400, Gary Russell wrote: Seems like everytime I write here I forget something I feel is important. Is it me or is the PRINT DIALOG box different for every Linux app? I see so many different types all with different options. Is there no 'standard' print dialog box layout under Linux? One Option I feel that is sorely missed is being able to print only certain pages: ie. choices should be - Print whole document, print current page, print page XX to XX. When printing out web pages, I use the last option the most under Windows. I haven't seen ANYTHING like that under Linux yet in ANY program. It's very hard to do that, because each app code its own system. Gnome apps will soon have all the same box, but all the other won't use it. Maybe Mandrake 8? [grin] Gary Russell Maryville, TN Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.epita.fr/~epx
[Cooker] Beta3 iso
The bad file on ftp.free.fr: hydrogen3-ext.iso May 16th after 21 days still has not been replaced with a good one. Is anybody home? -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
Re: [Cooker] Beta3 iso
Posted 6/3 I think the fact that there has been no official announcement seems odd. That and considering the fact that the word "beta" is in there- it may scare off a few. Yes, and what about the beta3 isos that doesn't work (the ext one) ? you r right there was a transmission problem somewhere, a corrected extension was uploaded, and mirror will get it in few days (begining of next week) -- Warly - Original Message - From: "Ron Stodden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: [Cooker] Beta3 iso The bad file on ftp.free.fr: hydrogen3-ext.iso May 16th after 21 days still has not been replaced with a good one. Is anybody home? -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
RE: [Cooker] Beta3 iso
Monday the fixed iso will start propogating Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Stodden Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:29 PM To: Mandrake Cooker Subject: [Cooker] Beta3 iso The bad file on ftp.free.fr: hydrogen3-ext.iso May 16th after 21 days still has not been replaced with a good one. Is anybody home? -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
[Cooker] When is the final 7.1?
The mandrake beta 3 iso on ftp.linux.tucows.com I noticed is not as current as the RPM's on ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/. I noticed that the glibc RPM was among the packages updated on June 4. Does anyone know when the final version will finally be out? -- Stephen
RE: [Cooker] secure kernel SMP
HI All, Please excuse my stupidness, but explain me please, why the secure kernel should necessarily be SMP? I'm not at all confident in SMP in 2.2.x and wouldn't like to deal with it, especially on an uniprocess machine. smp kernels will work on uniprocessor ones too, or should, anyway. umm, for now, recompile ? ;p Thank you in advance Alexander
RE: [Cooker] secure kernel SMP
actualy with SMP built on my box with 1 processor yet i have a dual pro. board and when i use the SMP kernel it like to crash just blank out hd shuts down etc... like if it went on stand by :/ happens on RH 5.2 to 6.2 and Mandrake 6.0 to 7.02 and tested on 7.1 beta3 and still does the same thing :/ -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 8:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Cooker] secure kernel SMP HI All, Please excuse my stupidness, but explain me please, why the secure kernel should necessarily be SMP? I'm not at all confident in SMP in 2.2.x and wouldn't like to deal with it, especially on an uniprocess machine. smp kernels will work on uniprocessor ones too, or should, anyway. umm, for now, recompile ? ;p Thank you in advance Alexander