[Cooker] nic configuration for @home (the wave)

2000-06-23 Thread Hamada Amer



Hi.

I'm have cable modem. I'm trying to get my linux machine two work with the 
at home service.  @home uses DHCP.  Hence I must configure my linux box run 
the dhcp client.  I tried the following command but it still failed,
   dhcpcd -h  eth0

If anyone is familiar with setting up linux to work with the Cable modem  
your help is appreciated.

p.s. I running redhat6.0
hamada



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Re: [Cooker] /dev/dsp

2000-06-23 Thread Peter Ruskin

Mike & Tracy,
It looks like you're using ALSA.  This has to be recompiled, I think, if
you change your kernel.  If you install alsa-source, it gets put
into 'drivers' in /usr/src, along with emu10k1.  I've found that I need to
rebuild a new kernel, 'make install' ALSA in 'drivers' so that alsa knows
which kernel, then go back into /usr/src/linux to make and install
modules.  This works for me, but seems a bit messy.  Perhaps I'm missing
something.
HTH.   Peter
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > 
> > Mike & Tracy Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Well instead of messing with 2.2.16-7, I went ahead and downloaded -8.
> > 
> > should be the last :p
> > 
> > > Everything went fine during install, but now I have no sound.  I've
> > > got sound blaster live which worked fine on MDK 7.1 final.  When I
> > > try quake I get /dev/dsp : no such device.  When I try to load kmp3,
> > 
> > ok what :
> > modprobe emu10k1 say you ?
> > 
> > > I get a segmentation fault.  When I load kscd, the player starts and
> > > plays, but no sound comes out.  I'll keep this kernel loaded for
> > > now, if you know a quick fix, could you pass it along?  Thanks, Mike
> > 
> > --
> 
> modprobe gives me:
> modprobe : Can't locate module emu10k1
> 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> 
> Mike & Tracy Holt
> Kirkland, WA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: [Cooker] Gnome 1.2

2000-06-23 Thread Mage Grimau

Two problems with it
1) Desktop items require double-click and I can't find a way to change it.
  Due to arthritis, I can't do double-click very well.
2) When I tried to use kmud I kept getting a popup message about "This
application has not responded to the save yourself message." Then I could
either kill kmud or continue. Even after I chose to continue, it kept
repeating the message every 30 seconds or so. Should be able to turn it of
for specific apps.

Between the two problems, I was forced back to KDE, which is nice enough, but
I would like a chance to use Gnome.

--- dam's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> check out the new gnome package, and test it.
> What do you think (suggestions...)?
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[Cooker] Aspell and Ispell.

2000-06-23 Thread Troels Liebe Bentsen

As some of you might have noticed aspell i now part of the redhat
distribution, a
will be the standard spelling program for their distribution. For some
odd reason
Linux-Mandrake currently don't carry this spelling utility, i would be
happy to see
this included in upcoming releases, aspell have several features not
included in ispell
and generally gives better hits on misspelled words.

Redhat has chosen not to include ispell, i think this is mistake, aspell
is not yet a
full replacement for ispell, not all languages has made the phonetic
file required in
aspell. Also the way suggestions i found is quit different.

Aspell should be the default spell checker because it will be the best
tool for most
people. But i still think ispell should be included on the cd as a
choice.

All the packages for aspell are available here:
(But please correct the language id, its da for danish not dk).

http://people.redhat.com/teg/

for info on aspell look here: http://aspell.sourceforge.net/

As the aspell data files take up allot of room you could, think about
making the ispell files smaller.

This can be done by making the hash file on install, it only takes about
3 sec on a p3 550 and the rpm
only use 1/2 the space.

I have made a rpm using the method for the danish ispell data files:

ftp://ftp.rh.dk/sslug/ispell/

As for doing this with aspell files, forget it it takes to long.

Kind regards
Troels Liebe Bentsen




Re: [Re: [Cooker] Destroyed Data]

2000-06-23 Thread Taras Glek

Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taras Glek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > Mandrake 7.0's install destroyed my working win98 and win2000 data.
> > During the install it did not recognize the partition table on
/dev/hda so I
> > installed it on /dev/hdd. After I successfully installed Mandrake and
booted
> > it off a rescue floppy(i didn;t want lilo) everything worked except
for when I
> > tried to boot off the hard drive. it just said "Invalid partition
table". I
> > could not recover ANY of my data. I have no idea why DiskDrake even
touched
> > /dev/hda since i immediatly switched to the "hdd" tab and partitioned hdd
> > ONLY.
>
> didn't drakx said:
>
> "Partition table of drive hda is going to be written to disk!"

Yes it did. But i didn't expect it to do ANYTHING since i did not change
anything on hda. Besdes shouldn't there be a read only option for certain
drives(like partition magic)
>
> > WTF am I supposed to do now?
> >
> > on the other note.
> > 1. Could u add an NTFS module to the rescue image on the cd.
>
> ntfs handling is bad at the moment
>
> > 2. Why isn't there a RAGE128 X server in Mandrake?
>
> there is, tis SVGA server

SVGA is not accelerated.
>
> > 3. Why doesn't my logitech mouse work?
>
> ??
I mean the wheel
>
> > 4. Why doesn;t DiskDrake see beyond 8Gigs of my 27gig maxtor drive. It
used to
> > before!
>
> ??

Do something about this
>
> > 5.Are there scripts/instructions availabl to build the 4 .iso images
from the
> > mandrake installation?
>
> 4 iso's ?

I'm asking for scripts to make iso's myself since some very fast mirrors
don't mirror iso files
>
> > 6. Why doesn't DrakFont detect fronts from WinNT
>
> because ntfs handling is bad
it seems good enough to read files..What do u mean by bad?



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Re: [Cooker] Real time debugger

2000-06-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

OS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does any one know of a good debugger that is capable of debugging multi
> threaded applications ? I am working with a company that has to develop on
> Linux but then debug on Solaris ! Apparently the Linux debuggers are not very
> good in this respect ???

try on gdb :

info threads

thread NUMBER

etc.. see the info file of gdb.

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[Cooker] Gnome 1.2

2000-06-23 Thread dam's

check out the new gnome package, and test it.
What do you think (suggestions...)?
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[Cooker] hackgimp 1.1.24-1mdk

2000-06-23 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,


hackgimp is now up on /incoming.



as always if you are using hackgimp then please instlal the nwe vesion and
test and report bugs to the nice pepole at gimp (or maybe the packager ...
;)

lenny could yiou please build thanks.


cu

//Geoff




Re: [Cooker] On to improving RPM

2000-06-23 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:41:01PM +0800, Geoffrey Lee wrote:

> btw does anyone know if it's possible to amke rpm requires package foo OR
> package bar ?

AFAIK you can't.
That is currently one of the major flaws of rpm.

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Re: [Cooker] On to improving RPM

2000-06-23 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 10:10:17AM -0500, Bryan Paxton wrote:

> Ok I know you can Requires: mail-transport-agent in the mutt spec file.
> But how do you dothe Provides: mail-transport-agent in the sendmail spec file ?

Just as you told it :) 

Provides: mail-transport-agent

> *nod*

Is the first time I read this "*nod*" what does it mean ? 

>> the only two things I see from your example that the deb format has and not 
>> the rpm format are the "priority" and "recommends" tag.
>> And I think it would indeed be a good thing to have them in standard in rpm.
> 
> Hrmm don't really like recommends, this is one of the things that most users
> hate about dselect.

Maybe.
The priority however is nice, (and reminds me of Slacwkare :) ).
It can be very useful for DrakX, to decide which packages to drop and which 
not, with the slider (you know, that 0%-100% thing)

> Suggestions: variable would be the better way to go, which
> I'll cover in my part 2 of improving RPM : )

That is only a naming problem, the idea remains the same: give a clue about
which packages may be useful, but not required.
For example when installing some networking stuff required are: net-tools,
netkit-base, suggested are pppd, adsl stuff, etc.
when installing pppd kdenetworking and gnome-networking may be suggested
(for kppp and gnome-ppp), but not required (you can install and run ppp
without them).

Seems nice to me.

Then rpmdrake could have a config option to automatically install suggestions 
(that is consider them same way as requires) or not.

> "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I
>   only coded it."
>  -- Linus Torvalds.

I like what he told about backups; and I really agree with him, having
experienced a serious hardware problem and having been able to save much
of my works thanks to having put it on ftp servers.


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[Cooker] apache not working?

2000-06-23 Thread Brook Humphrey

I use dhcp behind a cable modem will this affect the running of apache? the
deamon is running but I can't connect I've only noticed this since 7.1. Also I
looked in /var/log/http/err_log and found this 

[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfile 
/etc/httpd/logs/ssl_mutex.1099 (System error follows)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfile 
/etc/httpd/logs/ssl_mutex.1099 (System error follows)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfile 
/etc/httpd/logs/ssl_mutex.1099 (System error follows)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfile 
/etc/httpd/logs/ssl_mutex.1099 (System error follows)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [notice] Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.12  
(NetRevolution/Linux-Mandrake) mod_ssl/2.6.4 OpenSSL/0.9.5a PHP/3.0.16 mod_perl/1.22 
configured -- resuming normal operations
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfile 
/etc/httpd/logs/ssl_mutex.1099 (System error follows)
[Fri Jun 23 06:56:46 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13)



This error repeats over and over. The file size is 2.7 megs with just this one
error.

the file that it is looking for is not there. However ther is a ssl_mutex.671.

is it not getting thre pid of ssl right for some reason?




Re: [Cooker] Trying to install 7.1 beta on a SPARCstation20...

2000-06-23 Thread fpons

Chad Smutny  writes:

> When I start installation it boots off the CD but as soon as I get to
> the point to pick where I'm installing from it says that it can't find
> my SCSI cdrom drive.  I noticed it also was giving an error:
> <3>kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-11, errno = 2
> 

Can you give me the contents of VERSION file in root of cdrom ?

Tkanks, first beta has a problem for some scsi card, which one did you have ?

François.




[Cooker] Real time debugger

2000-06-23 Thread OS

Does any one know of a good debugger that is capable of debugging multi
threaded applications ? I am working with a company that has to develop on
Linux but then debug on Solaris ! Apparently the Linux debuggers are not very
good in this respect ???

Help would be appreciated

Thanks,
Owen




[Cooker] Real Time Debugger

2000-06-23 Thread OS

Does any one know of a good debugger that is capable of debugging multi
threaded applications ? I am working with a company that has to develop on
Linux but then debug on Solaris ! Apparently the Linux debuggers are not very
good in this respect ???

Help would be appreciated

Thanks,
Owen




Re: [Cooker] innd problem with dir permissions

2000-06-23 Thread Diablero

On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 06:08:51AM +0200, Diablero wrote:
> I have just installed innd from 7.1 and I can't start innd because 
> inndstart /var/run/news must not be owned by root and

innstart must be setuid root which isn't in the rpm.

I have installed inn-2.2.2-6mdk, and it's the same.

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Re: [Cooker] Apache and Upgrade to Mandrake 7.1 from 7.0

2000-06-23 Thread Pixel

CPT KIDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know the last time i upgraded from 6.1 to 7.0, the upgrade overwrote my
> apache config file(s).
> 
> Will the upgrade to 7.1 overwrite my apache config file again?

yep, seems like

%config /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

should be

%config(noreplace) /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf


jm?




Re: [Cooker] A small security related note(the updates dir).

2000-06-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I already asked Chmoel about this(a few weeks ago I think). It's about the 
> updates dir on linux-mandrake.com and how it's simply not there anymore. 
> This makes mdk look _really_ bad. What I gathered from Chmoel was that you
> simply don't have the bandwidth/pipes/whatever to serve as an update repos
> at this point in time.
> 
> So suggestion, simply put the updates dir back on linux-mandrake.com with 
> a text file containing all 'official' linux-mandrake mirror sites. You'll
> gain better face by doing so.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fupdates.php3

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[Cooker] A small security related note(the updates dir).

2000-06-23 Thread Bryan Paxton

I already asked Chmoel about this(a few weeks ago I think). It's about the 
updates dir on linux-mandrake.com and how it's simply not there anymore. 
This makes mdk look _really_ bad. What I gathered from Chmoel was that you
simply don't have the bandwidth/pipes/whatever to serve as an update repos
at this point in time.

So suggestion, simply put the updates dir back on linux-mandrake.com with 
a text file containing all 'official' linux-mandrake mirror sites. You'll
gain better face by doing so.


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[Cooker] Apache and Upgrade to Mandrake 7.1 from 7.0

2000-06-23 Thread CPT KIDD

I know the last time i upgraded from 6.1 to 7.0, the upgrade overwrote my
apache config file(s).

Will the upgrade to 7.1 overwrite my apache config file again?

(btw: posted this (bug) to the group when i noticed it did overwrite the config
file)


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Re: [Cooker] On to improving RPM

2000-06-23 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> > >> btw does anyone know if it's possible to amke
> > >> rpm requires package foo OR package bar ?
> > >
> > > I don't understand the question
> >
> > As in:
> >
> > Requires:  sendmail >= 8.10 | postfix
> >
> > A logical "OR".  Is this possible?  I don't know.
> > I'm just clarifying the question. =P
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> yep that was the qusetion that iwas asking my previous post i'm not aware of
> such funtion in rpm :-(
> 

Hu yeah, I went to various sites on building rpms and configurations within
spec files, but of no avail did I find anything that would suffice as an OR. 
This is yet another great idea for possible implementation.


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Re: [Cooker] On to improving RPM

2000-06-23 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 1. How does something like this break the functionality of rpm ?
> > It would only increase it's functionality IMHO.
> 
> this is a sentence of Jeff Johnson (the RH guy who develop rpm) i
> like :
> 
> "Adding tags to rpm is easy, living with the consequences of the
> addition is what's hard."

heh, I will no doubt agree with you the frustration that comes along when 
implementing something new in something so widely used. These are the only
consequences I see, keeping all distros(some distros to only a little degree)
compatible. Which is why if something such as virtual packages in the spec files
for all packages were to be used, all distros would have to follow this, or a 
set of guidlines/standard. So I turn my head to the LSB : )


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Re: [Cooker] The future of Mandrake

2000-06-23 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Roberto Rosselli Del Turco wrote:
> Taras Glek wrote:
> > 
> > 7. Why isn't helix-update shipped with Mandrake?
> 
> That's an'interesting question: Helix Install and Helix Update are cool
> ways to perform those operations, how is Mandrake going to perform the
> same tasks, especially the GNOME/[other software] update? Are you going
> to include Helix Update in LM 7.2 (or 8.0, or whatever), or are you
> going to write your own Updater, possibly to be used with other software
> packages (KDE, for instance)? or are you trying to keep track of
> GNOME/KDE etc. development simply releasing 3-4 versions of LM Mandrake
> per year?
> 
> I think the "release often" policy Mandrake has followed so far should
> be reconsidered: instead of 3-4 releases desperately trying to uphold
> the "state of the art" banner (but look what happened with GNOME 1.2, a
> pity it couldn't go in LM 7.1), introducing incremental improvements and
> a host of little problems, I'd like to see the following:
> 
> - 2 releases (say spring and autumn) really *rock* solid, each focusing
> on improving considerably one aspect of the Linux OS (installation,
> system maintenance, voice recognition, you name it);
> - a Mandrake Update program which can take care of the following:
> 
>   security updates
>   single/simple software updates (e.g. gqview, 1 rpm, or Mesa, 3-4
> packets)
>   complex software updates (e.g. GNOME: lots of packets, lots of
> dependancies, etc.)
>   system software updates (careful here!).
> 
> In this way, we could have new versions of LM still twice a year,
> perfect for fresh installs or heavy updates, and the chance to update
> our working system seamlessly during a LM year :)
> 
> I can hear a "commercial" objection coming: more releases = more
> PowerPacks sold. This is true, but consider this: your typical buyer
> (small/medium businesses, but also individuals) *won't* buy all of the
> PPs all the times; on the contrary, people are used to Winxx updates
> once every 2-3 years or more. Besides, you could make the update free
> for non-commercial and at a cost for commercial customers, following
> Helix model.
> 
> Just my 0.2 Euro here :^)
> 
> Ciao
> 

Hummm I agree with a lot of what you're saying and I only wanted to follow
up on your last statement about 'comercial' objection. This would only be a 
good comerical stance and here's the very simple reason why. 
I talked to a person in canada who's job it was to sale these powerpacks for 
a local store I assume. Thet problem came when they purchased a *&%# of 
powerpacks for whatever version. Then 2 months later a new version and a brand
new line of powerpacks came out. So they'd buy the new version of the powerpacks
to sale them and what do ya think happened to the other ones ? They simply 
collected dust : p, this got so frustrating that this store simply stoped buying
the mdk power packs.

: )


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Re: [Cooker] Destroyed Data

2000-06-23 Thread Pixel

Taras Glek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> Mandrake 7.0's install destroyed my working win98 and win2000 data.
> During the install it did not recognize the partition table on /dev/hda so I
> installed it on /dev/hdd. After I successfully installed Mandrake and booted
> it off a rescue floppy(i didn;t want lilo) everything worked except for when I
> tried to boot off the hard drive. it just said "Invalid partition table". I
> could not recover ANY of my data. I have no idea why DiskDrake even touched
> /dev/hda since i immediatly switched to the "hdd" tab and partitioned hdd
> ONLY.

didn't drakx said:

"Partition table of drive hda is going to be written to disk!"

> WTF am I supposed to do now?
> 
> on the other note.
> 1. Could u add an NTFS module to the rescue image on the cd.

ntfs handling is bad at the moment

> 2. Why isn't there a RAGE128 X server in Mandrake?

there is, tis SVGA server

> 3. Why doesn't my logitech mouse work?

??

> 4. Why doesn;t DiskDrake see beyond 8Gigs of my 27gig maxtor drive. It used to
> before!

??

> 5.Are there scripts/instructions availabl to build the 4 .iso images from the
> mandrake installation?

4 iso's ?

> 6. Why doesn't DrakFont detect fronts from WinNT

because ntfs handling is bad




[Cooker] Voodoo3 XFree86 4.0 and Quake3

2000-06-23 Thread bobby dowling

Anyone ever try this successfully with 7.1?


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[Cooker] Netscape's Linux-Mandrake welcome screen won't go away!

2000-06-23 Thread bobby dowling

How come on some installs it goes away and loads your specified startup page 
and sometimes it just won't?

How do you fix this?




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[Cooker] The future of Mandrake (was: Destroyed Data)

2000-06-23 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

Taras Glek wrote:
> 
> 7. Why isn't helix-update shipped with Mandrake?

That's an'interesting question: Helix Install and Helix Update are cool
ways to perform those operations, how is Mandrake going to perform the
same tasks, especially the GNOME/[other software] update? Are you going
to include Helix Update in LM 7.2 (or 8.0, or whatever), or are you
going to write your own Updater, possibly to be used with other software
packages (KDE, for instance)? or are you trying to keep track of
GNOME/KDE etc. development simply releasing 3-4 versions of LM Mandrake
per year?

I think the "release often" policy Mandrake has followed so far should
be reconsidered: instead of 3-4 releases desperately trying to uphold
the "state of the art" banner (but look what happened with GNOME 1.2, a
pity it couldn't go in LM 7.1), introducing incremental improvements and
a host of little problems, I'd like to see the following:

- 2 releases (say spring and autumn) really *rock* solid, each focusing
on improving considerably one aspect of the Linux OS (installation,
system maintenance, voice recognition, you name it);
- a Mandrake Update program which can take care of the following:

security updates
single/simple software updates (e.g. gqview, 1 rpm, or Mesa, 3-4
packets)
complex software updates (e.g. GNOME: lots of packets, lots of
dependancies, etc.)
system software updates (careful here!).

In this way, we could have new versions of LM still twice a year,
perfect for fresh installs or heavy updates, and the chance to update
our working system seamlessly during a LM year :)

I can hear a "commercial" objection coming: more releases = more
PowerPacks sold. This is true, but consider this: your typical buyer
(small/medium businesses, but also individuals) *won't* buy all of the
PPs all the times; on the contrary, people are used to Winxx updates
once every 2-3 years or more. Besides, you could make the update free
for non-commercial and at a cost for commercial customers, following
Helix model.

Just my 0.2 Euro here :^)

Ciao

-- 
Roberto Rosselli Del Turco  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dipartimento di Scienze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
del Linguaggio  Then spoke the thunder  DA
Universita' di Torino   Datta: what have we given?  (TSE)
 
  Hige sceal the heardra, heorte the cenre,
  mod sceal the mare,   the ure maegen litlath.  (Maldon 312-3)




RE: [Cooker] attn chmouel (was /dev/dsp)

2000-06-23 Thread Alex Boag-Munroe

Have you downloaded the source?  You'll probably find you'll need a
recompile.

-Original Message-
From: Mike & Tracy Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 June 2000 12:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] attn chmouel (was /dev/dsp)


Hello chmouel,
I would like to continue using this kernel version (2.2.16-8), could
you tell me what package (rpm) I might grab from cooker that would
contain the emu10k1 module?  I could download from creative and compile,
but if it's already available in mdk.rpm format that would probably
cause less confusion when doing the next upgrade.

Thanks, Mike 
-- 

Mike & Tracy Holt
Kirkland, WA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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