Re: [Cooker] libgail philosophy (dep on gail)
Elijah P Newren wrote on Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:37:52PM -0600 : So, if none can be installed without the other, what is the point of having two different packages? I believe installing both at the same time should work, as I've ran into a similar problem before. Try While that does address the issue of how to get them installed, it begs the question of why was it split into two different packages if each one requires the other? More than likely, gail should depend on libgail, and libgail should not depend on gail. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-18mdk msg65832/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] AbiWord crashes
Thanks!! That did the trick. I assume this issue is being addressed?? Murray J. Root wrote: On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 18:02:42 +1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abi Word crashes with the latest version. It opens fine but once trying to type or cut and paste anything into a document the program crashes and closes itself. turn off spell-checking
Re: [Cooker] php-pear
Alexander Skwar said:
Yes everything is working now. I just tested it with simple pear error
reporting and external module XML_Rss that i installed using pear.
pear list-remote-packages does not work, looks like thay fixed it in cvs.
pear install XML_Tree does not work in cvs and works with your version.
So sprach Yura Gusev am 2002-06-07 um 22:16:22 -0400 :
php-pear is incomplite. /usr/bin/pear does not work and many modules
are missing.I had to download it manually (lynx -source
http://pear.php.net/go-pear | sh). can you please update it?
Please see http://rpm.digitalprojects.com - PHP. There, I put fixed
php packages (both bin and src).
%changelog
* Sat Jun 8 2002 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.2.1-8mdk - Fix PEAR
- Move PEAR to %{peardir}
- Move PEAR files from devel to pear package
- Make php.ini readable on 80 col displays
- Add %{peardir} to include_path in ini
%{peardir} is %{phpdir}/pear; %{phpdir} is %{_libdir}/php; %{_libdir}
is %/usr/lib. So pear is now in /usr/lib/php/pear
Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker Kernel patches
Op Saturday 08 June 2002 21:35, schreef iemand (Borsenkow Andrej waarschijnlijk): What patches? kernel-source from MDK contains all MDK patches. So they cannot conflict :-) I meant my patches (the patches I need to make, i.e., sound work on my machine) conflicts with the MDK patches :) CVS. See CVS link on main Mandrake page, you need SPECS/kernel Ok thx, I'll look there. -- Regards, Tim Stoop PGP public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Random quote/fortune: QOTD: Unlucky? If I bought a pumpkin farm, they'd cancel Halloween.
Re: [Cooker] gmc
Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2002 09:23 schrieb Frédéric Crozat: On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 04:20:11 +0200, Yura Gusev wrote : Where is gmc (gnome gui version of midnight commander)? i can't find it on any cooker mirror. It is dead.. Nautilus replaces it.. This is really bad, because Nautilus is still unable to process directories with more then 3 or 4 thousand files. There comes a friendly message, but you will never see the rest of your large directories... Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] samba-2.2.4-5mdk
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 18.03, Buchan Milne wrote: Sylvestre Taburet wrote: | --=-=-= | Name: sambaRelocations: (not | relocateable) Version : 2.2.4 Vendor: | MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Tue | Jun 4 14:37:58 2002 | Install date: (not installed) Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com | Group : System/ServersSource RPM: (none) | Size: 4412151 License: GPL | Packager: Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Summary : Samba SMB server. | Description : [...] | * Tue Jun 04 2002 Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2.2.4-5mdk | | - changed vfs location in sample mdk smb.conf. Changelog for -4mdk was: | * Mon Jun 03 2002 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.2.4-4mdk | - More patch cleaning | - Antivirus support (optional at build time). Please test if you have one of | fprot, kaspersky,mks,symantec or trend. Sophos has been tested and builds | and works. | - Move all vfs objects to /usr/lib/samba/vfs Thus on-access scanning of files by samba. Infected files on the server are not accessible (plus you get a syslog entry), and infected files cannot be copied onto the server. Please _don't_ integrate this fluid feature into _samba_. I was about to make a samba add-on rpm package of this AV feature some time ago, but I hesitated... Please remove it from the samba package, it belongs to contribs at its best... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] ispell wants ispell-af
÷ ÷ÓË, 09.06.2002, × 03:19, Vincent Meyer, MD ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ:
Subject says it all...
No it wants ...
{pts/1}% rpm -qR ispell
ispell-dictionary = 3.2.06
^
Install anything other that provides it:
{pts/1}% rpm -q --whatprovides ispell-dictionary
ispell-ru-1.1-11mdk
-andrej
[Cooker] Re: kdb
÷ óÂÔ, 08.06.2002, × 20:11, Juan Quintela ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: borsenkow == Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: borsenkow I believe at some point we had kdb support now it is disabled. borsenkow I guess having kdb in kernel for cooker is not as bad idea, it gives you borsenkow some more chances to (try to) debug. It could be disabled in release borsenkow kernel of course. Humm, only real problem is on kernel-BOOT, for the rest can be used (there are size diffs, but we can live with that for cooker kernels). Problem is that using kdb gdb at the same time is very slow, and I think that there are more people using gdb than kdb (with kdb enable, breakpoints take a lot of time each one). I meant situation when your system just hangs and you can't work at all. In this case there is small chance that PAUSE will give you some tool that still works. What does people think about enabling kdb here? What I actually miss is the ability to create dump that can be analyzed later. Juan, what do you think about Linux Crash Dump project? -andrej
[Cooker] nvidia driver + cooker
hi ! I use cooker with the standart kernel 2.18-19. I wanted to install the driver from nvidia, but there is no way installing the src.rpm. there is also no way compiling the NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz.I always got : make install You appear to be compiling the NVdriver kernel module with a compiler different from the one that was used to compile the running kernel. This may be perfectly fine, but there are cases where this can lead to unexpected behaviour and system crashes. If you know what you are doing and want to override this check, you can do so by setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH. In any other case, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler that was used to compile the kernel. *** Failed cc sanity check. Bailing out! *** make: *** [gcc-check] Fehler 1 I use gcc3.1.1-0.2, and I thought the kernel was compiled with gcc3. Can someone perhaps package an rpm file for nvidia(plf perhabs?) daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Re: kdb
borsenkow == Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: borsenkow , 08.06.2002, 20:11, Juan Quintela : borsenkow == Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: borsenkow I believe at some point we had kdb support now it is disabled. borsenkow I guess having kdb in kernel for cooker is not as bad idea, it gives you borsenkow some more chances to (try to) debug. It could be disabled in release borsenkow kernel of course. Humm, only real problem is on kernel-BOOT, for the rest can be used (there are size diffs, but we can live with that for cooker kernels). Problem is that using kdb gdb at the same time is very slow, and I think that there are more people using gdb than kdb (with kdb enable, breakpoints take a lot of time each one). borsenkow I meant situation when your system just hangs and you can't work at all. borsenkow In this case there is small chance that PAUSE will give you some tool borsenkow that still works. What does people think about enabling kdb here? borsenkow What I actually miss is the ability to create dump that can be analyzed borsenkow later. Juan, what do you think about Linux Crash Dump project? Last time that I looked it was _way_ intrusive in the rest of the system. Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
Re: [Cooker] nvidia driver + cooker
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:10:09 +0200 (CEST) daniel beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi ! I use cooker with the standart kernel 2.18-19. I wanted to install the driver from nvidia, but there is no way installing the src.rpm. there is also no way compiling the NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz.I always got : make install You appear to be compiling the NVdriver kernel module with a compiler different from the one that was used to compile the running kernel. This may be perfectly fine, but there are cases where this can lead to unexpected behaviour and system crashes. If you know what you are doing and want to override this check, you can do so by setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH. In any other case, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler that was used to compile the kernel. *** Failed cc sanity check. Bailing out! *** make: *** [gcc-check] Fehler 1 I use gcc3.1.1-0.2, and I thought the kernel was compiled with gcc3. Can someone perhaps package an rpm file for nvidia(plf perhabs?) I don't know how you got that - unless you failed to install the kernel-source for that version kernel. My cooker install is only a few hours old and nvidia from tar.gz worked fine. -- Murray J. Root DISCLAIMER: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ Mandrake on irc.openprojects.net: #mandrake #mandrake-linux = help for newbies #mandrakeguru = advanced discussions #mdk-cooker = Mandrake Cooker msg65843/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] gmc
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:40:32 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Piechocki) wrote: It is dead.. Nautilus replaces it.. This is really bad, because Nautilus is still unable to process directories with more then 3 or 4 thousand files. There comes a friendly message, but you will never see the rest of your large directories... The demise was a decision made the the gnome developers. You can still use mc or any one of a smorgasbord of other file manager, but nautilus is the Only one that can be used to draw and manage the gnome desktop. Charles
Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.18-18mdk: can't mount or write cd-rw (ide-scsi problem?)
Le Mercredi 5 Juin 2002 09:44, Frederik Himpe a écrit : On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 19:12, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 04 Jun 2002 17:08:44 +0200 Frederik Himpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 16:31, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: My cd-writer does not work anymore with kernel 2.4.18-18mdk last version it worked? I have version 2.4.18-13mdk and 2.4.18-16mdk lying around, and it's working with these kernels. Unfortunately I don't have 2.4.18-17. Are you running full cooker? Yes, this is a full Cooker system. I resynced it two days ago. My writer works fine. [cdrecord output] kernel-2.4.18.18mdk-1-1mdk cdrecord-1.11-0.a24.1mdk Strange, I'm using the same versions. Mine is connected to a Promise Ultra 100 but I geuss that doesn't matter. Frederik Himpe What happens if you disable the DMA in /etc/sysconfig/harddiskhdc (or harddiskyour drive), cp of /etc/sysconfig/harddisks (uncomment USE_DMA and put 0). I reported this strange problem for my configuration and hopefully it worked. Thanks to Andrej and John. Stef
Re: [Cooker] kde3-koffice
Le Sunday 09 June 2002 14:14, Tibor Pittich a crit : Da 07. jn 2002 o 14:27, SpamKill napsal(a): Is there a way to run kde3-koffice in contribs with the latest kde3?? yes,. i'v played with *.desktop files and copy these files into /usr/share directories (look at: http://fireserver.ath.cx/gentoo/msg09690.html). i must also remove my ~/.kde directory and if i setup KDEDIR variable i can run kde3-koffice programs. maybe suffice only set this variable, try it as first. kde packagers: can you rebuild kde3-koffice to use /usr directory, not /opt/kde3 ? Yes wait 3 minutes, I upload it ! Regards.
Re: [Cooker] Broken KDM in latest KDE packages?
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 08:14, Nelson Bartley wrote: I'm wondering if this is unique to my situation, however I have installed a fresh cooker w/ the latest KDE rpms and I am unable to boot kdm. I have tried repeatedly to get it to run, however it appears to continually reboot itself, locking the machine in a continually respawned init 5. Has anyone else noticed this, or is this a bug unique to my computer. I've reproduced it on three computers here. It's b0rken. Here's an example from one of my developers' machines: Jun 4 14:16:54 arezazadeh kdm_config[6676]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:42 Jun 4 14:16:54 arezazadeh kdm_config[6676]: Unrecognized key 'NoUsers' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:58 Jun 4 14:16:54 arezazadeh kdm_config[6676]: Unrecognized key 'Users' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:64 Jun 4 14:16:54 arezazadeh kdm_config[6676]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:73 Jun 4 14:16:54 arezazadeh kdm_config[6676]: Invalid option value 'All' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:61 Jun 4 14:16:55 arezazadeh kdm[6677]: Server unexpectedly died Jun 4 14:17:10 arezazadeh kdm[6677]: Server for display :0 can't be started, session disabled Jun 4 14:17:22 arezazadeh kdm_config[6685]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:42 Jun 4 14:17:22 arezazadeh kdm_config[6685]: Unrecognized key 'NoUsers' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:58 Jun 4 14:17:22 arezazadeh kdm_config[6685]: Unrecognized key 'Users' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:64 Jun 4 14:17:22 arezazadeh kdm_config[6685]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:73 Jun 4 14:17:22 arezazadeh kdm_config[6685]: Invalid option value 'All' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:61 Jun 4 14:17:24 arezazadeh kdm[6688]: Greeter exited unexpectedly Jun 4 14:17:24 arezazadeh kdm[6688]: Abnormal helper termination, code 127, signal 0 Jun 4 14:17:26 arezazadeh kdm[6700]: Greeter exited unexpectedly Jun 4 14:17:26 arezazadeh kdm[6700]: Abnormal helper termination, code 127, signal 0 Jun 4 14:17:28 arezazadeh kdm[6712]: Greeter exited unexpectedly Jun 4 14:17:28 arezazadeh kdm[6712]: Abnormal helper termination, code 127, signal 0 Jun 4 14:17:30 arezazadeh kdm[6724]: Greeter exited unexpectedly Jun 4 14:17:30 arezazadeh kdm[6724]: Abnormal helper termination, code 127, signal 0 Jun 4 14:17:30 arezazadeh kdm[6686]: Display :0 is being disabled (restarting too fast) -- Brad Felmey
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake RPM
Elijah P Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
My apologies if I'm sending this to the wrong place. I wasn't sure
where this should go. Please let me know whom I should be emailing
with these questions if this list is the wrong place.
No, it's the correct place.
[...]
Text with link :
ftp://ftp.mandrakesoft.com/pub/chmou/rpm-spec-mode-mdk.el;
Links to (broken) :
ftp://ftp.mandrakesoft.com/pub/chmou/rpm-spec-mode-mdk.el
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/files/rpm-spec-mode-mdk.el
2. Differences in (RedHat) RPM and Mandrake RPM?
I found that Appendix B of the mdk-rpm howto
(http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/howtos/mdk-rpm/more-macros.html)
specified some of the extensions of mdk-rpm, but there were other
tags/macros referenced in the howto that weren't clearly identified
as being standard RPM or a Mandrake extension (and I couldn't tell,
since Maximum RPM is a little out of date). Can anyone tell me?
This is constantly evolving when
-1- we decide to add some more macros to our default rpm macros
file
-2- RH does the same in official rpm
-3- RH merges some of our new macros in official rpm
Most of the specific tags/macros that I was wondering about:
License (vs. Copyright)
Copyright and License are equivalent tags, and Copyright is
obsolete.
%defattr
This is standard.
%{_bindir}, %{_sbindir}, %{_datadir}, etc..
%{_menudir}
AFAIK, these were introduced by Mandrake RPM. The first line
of macros seem not integrated in default RPM, not the second.
People are encouraged to use these macros so that on different
sites, files installed in different places can be found by RPM.
BuildRequires, BuildConflicts
This is standard.
Epoch
Serial and Epoch are equivalent tags, and Serial is obsolete.
%config(noreplace), %config(ghost), %config(missingok)
This is standard.
Also, if anyone knows (or knows where I can find) any other relevant
differences, I would appreciate it.
The best place for such information is probably inside our
developer Frederic Lepied's mind, but we haven't discovered a way
to plug in any network device, yet..
--
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] Latest Cooker - gendistrib probs
When I tried mkcd --check /mnt/hd/cooker it failed so I ran gendistrib. First it barfed about gnome-vfs-extras-0.99.0-2mdk.i586.rpm not being valid (it is 0 bytes from the mirror) - so I deleted it and ran gendistrib again. At the end of gendistrib it spits out tons of complaints . . . Here's a sample of what I get with gendistrib: xstat-1.1-3mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? xsw1.34-1.34.0-4mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? xsw1.40-1.40.5-5mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? xsw1.40-monitor-1.40.5-5mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? xsw1.40-server-1.40.5-5mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? xsw1.40-unvedit-1.40.5-5mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? yadex-1.5.2-2mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? zhcon-0.2-1mdk require [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3] which is not available in any medium listed but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2], need rebuild ? but a similar provides is available as [libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2(GCC.INTERNAL)], need rebuild ? Any input would be appreciated! Thx, R.Fox
Re: [Cooker] Problem with sawfish-ui
Hello, I have also experienced this problem. I'm guessing that you can manually add these shortcuts in to the .sawfish/custom file. In addition to this problem I've noticed other things that seem to have degraded since the pre 1.0.1 version. Window packing doesn't work correctly when horizontally packing with a window of the same size. It just packs right through it. The tooltips lost a time value setting to say when to appear and leave. They also lost their own font setting. Edge alignment doesn't work with ignored windows. The configuraton tool is even buggier than before. These are probably problems that I should address to the sawfish team instead of over here, but maybe someone here knows how to fix these. -Victor Perdaens Antoine wrote: Hi , I hav troubles with sawfish-ui, when trying to add new shortcuts, rep takes 100% of the cpu: tlg@tlg-portable 76 ~ $ rep /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui *** File error: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type, sawfish/gtk/widget So I assume this is a problem somwhere in the lips files, has anyone been in the same troubes... Antoine
Re: [Cooker] X dies - related to gpm?
Frederik Himpe said: I also have this problem from time to time when i use midnight commander (mc). Try Ctrl-O to view the command line and it will print a lot of errors. P.S Can mandrake update xlock? OpenGL is way too fast.It if fixed in latest release. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Since about a week or so, it has happened several times that X just dies while I'm working on my pc. I'm using XFree86-4.2.0-12mdk. I am using a Matrox Millenium G400 board. This is what I found in /var/log/messages: Jun 9 21:17:23 Jupiter gpm[1387]: info: [/home/gb/rpm-rebuilder/rpm/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/mice.c(1751)]: Jun 9 21:17:23 Jupiter gpm[1387]: imps2: Auto-detected intellimouse PS/2 Jun 9 21:17:22 Jupiter kdm[1692]: Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly I have removed gpm, probably this this will solve the problem. Frederik Himpe - -- PGP Public Key Block: http://users.telenet.be/fhimpe/fhimpe.gpg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9A6xyiwRpQ+y//FIRAu85AJ46KNnwurmaMgpVbpCFpD4kfJ7WTgCffzGW QJWATS3A316TehimVhDnbrk=+G1Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Kmail does not give option to encrypt with gpg
I recently upgraded my 8.2 install to the cooker kde-3.0.1 rpms after having difficulty with a malformed user id error when trying to encrypt emails with kmail and gpg. I've installed all of the dependencies, KDE is working great. Now it seems I went from bad to worse. Where as before I could at least select to encrypt a message, and get an error, now I cannot even select to encrypt it. The lock icon and the encrypt message option in the menu are both grayed out. GPG works with other MUAs, so I know it's ok. I'm not sure if this is cooker related, or KDE related, so I thought I'd post. Any ideas? Thanks, Kevin
Re: [Cooker] nvidia driver + cooker
On Sunday 09 June 2002 13:10, daniel beck wrote: hi ! I use cooker with the standart kernel 2.18-19. I wanted to install the driver from nvidia, but there is no way installing the src.rpm. there is also no way compiling the NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz.I always got : make install [...] If you know what you are doing and want to override this check, you can do so by setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH. [...] I use gcc3.1.1-0.2, and I thought the kernel was compiled with gcc3. Can someone perhaps package an rpm file for nvidia(plf perhabs?) daniel You can IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH since kernel was compiled with 3.1 and you have 3.1.1 which are (supposed to be) compatible. I am almost certain that it's OK Oherwise you will have to recompile the kernel which is definitely the harder way. Eyal
Re: [Cooker] rpm --with does not work for Athlon target
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 05:14, Ben Reser wrote: Just a suggestion but did you try quoting the athlon-mandrake-linux like this: rpm --rebuild --target 'athlon-mandrake-linux' --with plf freetype2-2.0.9-3mdk.src.rpm The same error, doesn't work. or changing the order of the params: rpm --rebuild --with plf --target 'athlon-mandrake-linux' freetyp2-2.0.9-3mdk.src.rpm This works, even without the quoting. Well, I have been having trouble with this kind of thing also. I wanted to add options to build samba with a choice of virus scanner using --with sophos, --with kaspersky etc, but it only helped during the %build, and not for the packages (%files sections) themselves. I then tested some that were known to work before, and they didn't work anymore! So now I am going to have to settle for toggling my %defines :-(. Or some other variation. I seem to recall RPM having issues like this in the past on other things. RPM is really idiosyncratic ;-) Indeed.
[Cooker] Cooker (ATA Raid Promise on A7V133 with Athlon 900)
Title: Messaggio Hi Cookers!I haveasus A7V133 with onboard Fasttrak 100 'Light' Controller I am using bios v1007A.This devices work just fine on all MS windowsI tested.I don't know why came to this disrigard by Mandrake? When i was installing ML 8.1 or 8.2 kernel found this controller But in DrakX's phase "Setup filesystems" i got this error:I can't read your partition table, it's too corrupted for me: ( I can try to go on blanking bad partitions (ALL DATA will be lost !) The other solution is to dissallow to modify the partition table (the error is ask_before_blanking) extended partition: bad magic number. I suppose it is unpossible to install M8.2 on raid disks at my machine. What I can Do for installa M8.2 on my machine??? Can anybody help me?Thank You!!!
Re: [Cooker] video software
On 2002.06.08 Udo Rader wrote: nice project, but LM already has bcast (which is very nice IMHO). But I think bcast is unsupported and abandoned, in favour of jackasha (sure, I typo-ed somthing in the name...) -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.19-pre10-jam2 #3 SMP sáb jun 8 03:42:18 CEST 2002 i686
Re: [Cooker] video software
On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 18:23, J.A. Magallon wrote: On 2002.06.08 Udo Rader wrote: nice project, but LM already has bcast (which is very nice IMHO). But I think bcast is unsupported and abandoned, in favour of jackasha (sure, I typo-ed somthing in the name...) a search in google for jackasha returns a null search -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.19-pre10-jam2 #3 SMP sáb jun 8 03:42:18 CEST 2002 i686 -- Roger - Verify my pgp/gnupg signature on my HomePage: http://www.alltel.net/~rogerx/about/index.html
Re: [Cooker] video software
On 2002.06.10 Roger wrote: On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 18:23, J.A. Magallon wrote: On 2002.06.08 Udo Rader wrote: nice project, but LM already has bcast (which is very nice IMHO). But I think bcast is unsupported and abandoned, in favour of jackasha (sure, I typo-ed somthing in the name...) a search in google for jackasha returns a null search I knew it was in cooker, under contribs: jahshaka-1.8.5-1mdk More info on http://jahshakafx.sourceforge.net/ -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.19-pre10-jam2 #3 SMP sáb jun 8 03:42:18 CEST 2002 i686
Re: [Cooker] Cooker Snapshot
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:22:58PM -0400, Murray J. Root wrote: Hmm - what hardware issue? Even my old 2x CD-ROM drive reads 700M CDs without a prob. I personally prefer the 700M size and use it when making my own CDs from cooker (4 at 700M or 5 at 650M). If the price or hardware became an issue, though, I'd be content with 650M from Mandrake - no point in making it hard on someone else just to save me a few pennies. The hardware issues with 700MB CDs normally don't show on CDROM drives. Though I'm sure there are some out there that don't like them. Mostly you just don't want to record redbook audio on 700MB CDs. A lot of CD players won't play them, even when they will play 650MB CDRs. Doesn't even matter if you don't use the extra time. But I don't think it'll be a real issue for Mandrake CDs for the vast majority. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 06:49, Doug McClendon wrote: Nathan A. Smith wrote: Hi, I seem to be having trouble getting my sblive soundcard working properly. I have sound (system, xmms, etc) - but only from my rear speakers I have often run into people who had just their rear speaker output connected to their normal primary speakers under windows, then being perplexed when they got no sound in linux. I suggest you double check and make sure that what you think is the front speaker output jack, really is the front speaker output jack. Go to http://opensource.creative.com/ and download the EMU10K1 Project. It includes a file /usr/local/etc/emu-script or something like that. Edit, run, rejoice, put in startup scripts. I used to have 4 speaker sound in mdk, then lost it after a cooker upgrade (prolly kernel, dunno). After installing the stuff from the creative opensource page it works again. Also, on a sidenote... And by no means intended to start a flame war or something like that, but how come so many stuff in cooker is broken, or breaks things which previously worked? My fonts change from unreadably small to horribly huge after a MandrakeUpdate, my belgian keyboard switches from a state where it can produce a tilde to where it can't (in X; only the tilde seems affected), stuff that used to work suddenly doesn't work anymore, new libs which should obsolete older ones conflict instead of obsoleting and removing them from the system, icons disappear and after another upgrade reappear... sometimes... All of a sudden since upgrading my kdelibs my kvirc stops working and can't be found on the mirrors anymore either (ok, ok, I got the warning that there were incompatibilities and clicked force, not a good idea, but why does it have to break in the first place?)... Yeah, sure, I read the disclaimer, I know cooker is not production-ready, but hey, I got debian boxes at home which run on the unstable (sid) branch and guess what: they don't fuck up. Now I don't want to start a distro war here, I like mandrake, but I'd like to see a way of keeping my system up to date with the latest software releases without slowly tearing it apart in the process. Cooker is definately not it; too many things go wrong whenever you try to keep it up to date. Seems like some mdk cooker packagers are just sloppy and don't even check their upgraded packages, or otherwise I just missed some basic howto-knowledge on MandrakeUpdate and Cooker use... I hope it's the latter; in that case someone can enlighten me and I might learn from my mistakes. -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:20135549 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:++3289856533 cellular: ++32496737018 ulyssis student serviceshttp://www.ulyssis.org This message will self-destruct when raped by leprechauns...
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] ucd-snmp-4.2.3-3mdk
On Monday 10 June 2002 03.00, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: --=-=-= Name: ucd-snmp Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 4.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Mon Jun 10 03:54:10 - fix %configure Why not: http://d-srv.com/Cooker/SRPMS/ucd-snmp-4.2.5-1mdk.src.rpm ? (if you managed to compile it on latest cooker anyway...) -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] ucd-snmp-4.2.3-3mdk
Oden Eriksson wrote: On Monday 10 June 2002 03.00, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: --=-=-= Name: ucd-snmp Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 4.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 3mdk Build Date: Mon Jun 10 03:54:10 - fix %configure Why not: http://d-srv.com/Cooker/SRPMS/ucd-snmp-4.2.5-1mdk.src.rpm ? (if you managed to compile it on latest cooker anyway...) I've managed to compile 4.2.5 on cooker, but it requires changing a number of patches (or disabling them). I'll leave that to the maintainer of the package. My 4.2.5. src.rpm is available on request. Maybe he wants to go for the new 5.x series of net-snmp... Stefan
Re: [Cooker] Emu10k1 Mixer settings
On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 03:49, Michael Andreen wrote: I moved to cooker a month or two ago and it's been a very nice ride so far, it's not much that I miss in it.. ;) Consistence and stability perhaps, other than that I like mandrake because it had most of the apps I regularly use, I'm an ex Redhat user, and maybe that distro has matured since then, but at the time I was using it I still had to dowload lots of stuff from the net which were standard issue on Mandrake. Sure there are some things that get wrong once in a while, but of what I've seen they get solved rather quickly (as long as someone bothers to report it, if it isn't reported then it's hard to solve the problem since it's hard enough to find it in the insert HUGE number possible configurations). Just continue reporting problmes, that's what's really needed and if noone responds then complain about the lack of response since good reporting and good response is what's needed (and of course some action from the responding part) to get rid of the flaws. Well, I am pretty new to this list, but I don't mind reporting bugs n' all that, it's just that right now I don't have the time due to exams. But I just notice the sharp contrast between cooker which slowly tears my system apart, constantly has something broken and is full of conflicting packages and the happy sid boxes at home which have not had any problems yet. snip kvirc 3, even though it isn't released as stable yet, is a very nice client (that beats everything I've seen so far on both linux and windows) and I've been running selfcompiled versions for about 5 months now. Sure it would be nice to have this packaged for cooker (who maintained kvirc2? maybe time for me to learn how to create rpms?? ;), In fact, it ain't that hard. Just read the cooker docs on the cooker site. However, I noticed that whenever I make a spec file it doesn't look nearly as big and complicated than the mandrake ones, but hey, it builds, it installs and it runs. Good enough for me, but not for public release. ;) but it's not hard at all (if you got some experiance of compiling) to either check out the latest cvs snapshot or download a snapshot from ftp://ftp.kvirc.net if you don't want to mess with the auto* tools. Will do; I don't mind getting down and dirty with CVS every now and then when a package isn't provided by my distro, but if it is I'd rather have it installed as a package instead of just source. Anyway, thanks for the kvirc hint; it still doesn't fix all the stuff that's broken on my box. I understand making a distro is not an easy task; everything needs to work together, sometimes unpredictable problems may arise which break stuff, etc... But then again, if another distro can pull it off, so can Mandrake. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone; I have no right to since I am not a mandrake packager who has proven himself to always deliver bug-free packages. I am just looking at the facts and realising that with mandrake you have 2 choices: either you don't upgrade untill the next stable distro hits the shelves (apart from the security updates that is), or you upgrade and have lots of stuff broken. It would be nice to see a third Mandrake incarnation which consists of tried-and-true cooker packages, so that users can have relatively new versions of their favourite software, but also can rest assured that there are no problems with the packages. Coz waiting till the next Mandrake hits the shelves is just too damn long. ;-) kind regards, -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:20135549 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:++3289856533 cellular: ++32496737018 ulyssis student serviceshttp://www.ulyssis.org This message will self-destruct when raped by leprechauns...
[Cooker] Cooker Snapshot report
Happy to report everything worked great. had to deselect gnome-user-docs to install, as mentioned in an earlier posting. Noticed that my via 8233a audio was detected and installed correctly, however during the install process it said I had no sound card. Strange issue w/ my USB optical mouse. I had to stop and start USB again for it to show up under /dev/usbmouse or for anything to show up under /dev/usb With everything installed I noticed that the mandrake control center did not install. There is no icon on the desktop, in the menus, and the mcc application does not appear to exist, however all of the plugins for it are present. As for the 700MB issue, I personally don't see it being a problem. Here in canada it is almost imposible to buy bulk CD's that aren't 700MB discs. Thanks, NB
Re: [Cooker] Cooker Snapshot report
On Sunday 09 June 2002 11:50 pm, Nelson Bartley wrote: Strange issue w/ my USB optical mouse. I had to stop and start USB again for it to show up under /dev/usbmouse or for anything to show up under /dev/usb I've had this problem with 8.1 and 8.2 as well; running mousedrake twice fixes it. None of the fixes posted at MandrakeForum have worked for me, even setting devfs=nomount. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com It's not paranoia if they're really after you. -- H. Ross The Boss Perot
[Cooker] Consoles wont close normally
When I am doing work in a console (Konsole, Xterm etc.) and then I try and close the console it won't close normally. I have to kill the program manually via XKill or other means...any one else experiencing this?? Regards, Jason
[Cooker] Release plan ?
Hi ! I would like to say if i can find somewhere therelease plan for the Mandrake 8.3/9.0.What will be included (What's new) in the newrelease.I search and i found nothing... Thanks a lot ! Danny.
RE: [Cooker] X dies - related to gpm?
Hi, Since about a week or so, it has happened several times that X just dies while I'm working on my pc. I'm using XFree86-4.2.0-12mdk. I am using a Matrox Millenium G400 board. This is what I found in /var/log/messages: Jun 9 21:17:23 Jupiter gpm[1387]: info: [/home/gb/rpm-rebuilder/rpm/BUILD/gpm-1.20.0/src/mice.c(1751)]: Jun 9 21:17:23 Jupiter gpm[1387]: imps2: Auto-detected intellimouse PS/2 Jun 9 21:17:22 Jupiter kdm[1692]: Server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly I have removed gpm, probably this this will solve the problem. I had (for the past year or so :-) slightly different problem of mouse not working (properly) in text console after returning from X. About two weeks ago to my excitement I found that X seems to work correctly with FIFO as mouse device. I reconfigured gpm to run in repeater mode and X to use /dev/gpmdata as mouse device and since then I had _zero_ problems with mouse either in X or on console. Fred, I have small patch for init.d/gpm to allow easy configuration as repeater. Do you accept it? I would even go as far as to suggest this should be default ... what other people think? -andrej
Re: Hard Disk icons
Le 2002.06.08 10:10, Targon a écrit : How do i get Hard disk partition icons on the desktop like Mac OS X? So that for example if i opened a new window in nautilus, the tree would show all the partitions, for one to select from. Also these icons would reflect in the open/save dialog box's. Column View for Nautilus would be great also but this time have a tray like old NeXTSTEP (Apple in their wisdom pulled the tray from Mac OS X). Which desktop manager are you using ? If it's Nautilus, just mark these partitions as mounted at boot time in /etc/fstab (or set this property in LinuxConf/Drakconf), nautilus will show an icon for each mounted volume on the desktop. If you don't, available volumes - I mean partitions listed in fstab - are also listed in the desktop right click menu and can be mounted by hand this way. If ot's Kde/Kdesktop, choose the Create new - partition entry (or a similar expression, I don't remember) in the desktop right click menu. Then, change the properties (right click- properties) to match the fstab entry for each partition. Then you can mount/umount these volumes by right clicking on them. Bertrand Dekoninck I
powerbook question
Hi PPC cookers! :) I am about to buy a new powerbook G4 (the 800mhz model), but I am not sure if everything works in linux. Anybody has closer experiences here? I would be really thankful. My little 'checklist' is this: - usb firewire ports - gigabit ethernet - airport card - soundcard - internal modem - cdrw/dvd - the ati mobility radeon 7500 videocard (3d support?) Please if anyone knows whether these work or not (or will), tell me. Thanks in advance, Balazs Pozsar.
Re: pmud -- screaming powerbook! oh, my!
Ben Reser wrote: Which powerbook G4 do you have? Can you give some details about it (processor speed etc)... If it's a newer one well it's quite possible that pmud isn't entirely compatable... On my TiBook 500 Mhz shutting the lid works fine. This is stock early model 500MHz TiBook ... almost a year old. Nothing special about it beyond that.
Re: pmud -- screaming powerbook! oh, my!
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 08:31:43AM +, isaac wrote: This is stock early model 500MHz TiBook ... almost a year old. Nothing special about it beyond that. If you did an update from an 8.0 install or just updated your pmud from 8.2 and are still running 8.0 then that's probably your problem. My 500 MHz works just fine. So I'd guess you've just got a messed up install somewhere. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: powerbook question
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 01:36:14PM +0200, Pozsar Balazs wrote: Anybody has closer experiences here? I would be really thankful. I haven't personally had experience with the newer TiBooks but this is what I can tell you about what does and doesn't work from the reports we've had here. My little 'checklist' is this: - usb firewire ports Yes this should work. - gigabit ethernet I'm pretty sure this works but nobody has specifically said it doesn't. - airport card I know this will work it's the same as the older Tibooks - soundcard Again should work - internal modem Not a chance in hell of it working. It's a software modem no specs or drivers are available. - cdrw/dvd Again should work. DVD move plackback under PPC doesn't work very well but that's not a hardware issue. It's just that the software for playing the back hasn't been tested on PPC very much and so most of it has architecture issues. - the ati mobility radeon 7500 videocard (3d support?) Should work. But putting the machine to sleep and waking it up doesn't work right with this card. I'm not sure if it'll run fully accelerated, I've seen conflicting reports. Even if it doesn't run perfectly now it will get fixed as people have more experience with the Radeon's... However, it is certainly usable for now. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: pmud -- screaming powerbook! oh, my!
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 09:31:12PM +, isaac wrote: note, if i sleep it manually (such as with the sleep button on BatMon) it just beeps once nicely and goes to sleep like it should. pmud 0.7 doesn't beep. so it's probably something to do with the beeping. Ohh and you can disable putting the machine to sleep when closing the lid. -k turns it off period. -K turns it off when on AC power. Just add one of these flags to /etc/sysconfig/power Mine looks like this: PMUD_FLAGS=-K Stew, You might want to add those flags to the documentation at the top of the file since they are really useful. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: pmud -- screaming powerbook! oh, my!
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Ben Reser wrote: On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 09:31:12PM +, isaac wrote: note, if i sleep it manually (such as with the sleep button on BatMon) it just beeps once nicely and goes to sleep like it should. pmud 0.7 doesn't beep. so it's probably something to do with the beeping. Ohh and you can disable putting the machine to sleep when closing the lid. -k turns it off period. -K turns it off when on AC power. Just add one of these flags to /etc/sysconfig/power Mine looks like this: PMUD_FLAGS=-K Stew, You might want to add those flags to the documentation at the top of the file since they are really useful. Thx Ben - will do Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
new install
I just did a clean reinstall on my powerbook g4 667. everything went ok but there is one thing that i would change about the install. the default install mode (install-novideo) crashes on my powerbook. maybe the default should be install-text so that people that have no idea about videocards can get the install rolling? just an idea... mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: new install
my powerbook was bought in january. i have been using mandrake since then and the only thing that dosen't work correctly is sleep and i am confident that this will be fixed in time. the only things you should worry about is video. the new resilution on the screen is 1280x854 which might cause problems with the default install (there is option for it yet) but might be as easy to fix as changing one line in your X config file. i think the 2 powerbooks have the same ethernet, airport, and soundcard. all three of these things work fine for me so they should for you. again, video is my only concern. good luck and let us know if you take the plunge and if there are any problems. mike From: Pozsar Balazs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Marcucio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new install Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:06:23 +0200 (MEST) On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: I just did a clean reinstall on my powerbook g4 667. everything went ok but Hi! What model do you own? I am about to buy one with the 800MHz cpu, but I am still unsure that I will be able to use all the hardware under linux. I have the most fears whether these will work: - the gigabit ethernet card - ati videocard - airport card - soundcard Please tell me if anything of the above works or doesn't for you. Big thanks in advance, Balazs Pozsar. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: contrib/cooker/updates?
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 04:09:02PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote:
contrib: packages not included in 8.2 but will install fine on this system
If you mean Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc then you're not really right.
Unfortunately the contrib under Mandrake-devel is for cooker. PPC
doesn't get it's own binary archive (Mandrake/8.2/{i586,ia64}) or
contrib dir for released versions (Mandrake/8.2/contrib/i586). So
really there is no good contrib archive for 8.2/ppc.
cooker: don't even to attemp to install on an 8.2 install because
everything is compiled with gcc3
Yes and no. Not everything has been recompiled. And even if they have
been if it's not a C++ app it's likely to work on 8.2. However, there
may be other issues that stop things from working right. Same thing
holds true of the Mandrake-devel/contrib archive.
updates: updates to the packages that came with the 8.2 cds
Correct, these are security or other updates done due to bugs.
If you're looking for things that are normally included in main for x86
but aren't on the ISO's for PPC I've got an archive of all the stuff
that didn't make 8.2. But I don't have an 8.2 contrib archive.
All the things that would have been on the 3rd ISO had there been one
are here:
http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/
HTH
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Re: new install
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 04:22:35PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: the only things you should worry about is video. the new resilution on the screen is 1280x854 which might cause problems with the default install (there is option for it yet) but might be as easy to fix as changing one line in your X config file. Basically all that's needed for this is the correct Modeline. It's not in the Installer because nobody has submitted it to Stew as of yet. If you've got it then please post it here on the list and it'll get included for the next version. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: contrib/cooker/updates?
From: Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:25:26 -0700
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 04:09:02PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote:
contrib: packages not included in 8.2 but will install fine on this
system
If you mean Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc then you're not really right.
Unfortunately the contrib under Mandrake-devel is for cooker. PPC
doesn't get it's own binary archive (Mandrake/8.2/{i586,ia64}) or
contrib dir for released versions (Mandrake/8.2/contrib/i586). So
really there is no good contrib archive for 8.2/ppc.
I guess my real question is: can the kde3 packages located here be installed
under my 8.2 install? if not where can i find those packages?
if the lack of 8.2/ppc/contrib is a problem, when i get my T1 back up next
month i will host the packages there. i think it is pretty sad that mandrake
has to get other people to host their packages. it seems like they are
giving the bare minimum resources to keep this project alive. (but this is
looking from the outside)
thanks for the help,
mike
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Re: contrib/cooker/updates?
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 05:05:19PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: I guess my real question is: can the kde3 packages located here be installed under my 8.2 install? if not where can i find those packages? I'm not sure I'm not really interested in KDE3 myself so I haven't been paying attention. However, I seem to recall Stew saying the KDE3 packages in Contrib were built for 8.2 if the lack of 8.2/ppc/contrib is a problem, when i get my T1 back up next month i will host the packages there. i think it is pretty sad that mandrake has to get other people to host their packages. it seems like they are giving the bare minimum resources to keep this project alive. (but this is looking from the outside) Actually Mandrake doesn't host any of it's own files for even x86. They have a internal mirror that very few sites have access too. All the other mirrors are just hosting out of the kindness of their hearts. So Mandrake is walking a fine line. If they put too much up for the mirrors to get they may decide not to carry Mandrake anymore at all. And if they put up too little then people like you get the wrong impression. PPC is not a money making project at all. Mandrake is doing this as a contribution to the community. So cut them some slack when it comes to what they do. I may be a bit vocal at times but I'm pretty understanding about not getting a full binary mirror because of these issues. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: contrib/cooker/updates?
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: while on my quest to bring my powerbook back to where it was before (kde3, etc) i came across 3 different places for new stuff: contrib, cooker, and updates. before i start going crazy installing stuff i want to be sure that i'm not gong to kill my computer (again ;). pleas let me know if i am correct in the discriptions of these 3 places. contrib: packages not included in 8.2 but will install fine on this system No longer true once cooker begins. I haven't done much with contribs yet. the kde3 stuff that is there should still be safe. I believ Olivier Thauvin has plans to update contribs with cooker materials. cooker: don't even to attemp to install on an 8.2 install because everything is compiled with gcc3 true updates: updates to the packages that came with the 8.2 cds true Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: new install
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Ben Reser wrote: On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 04:22:35PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: the only things you should worry about is video. the new resilution on the screen is 1280x854 which might cause problems with the default install (there is option for it yet) but might be as easy to fix as changing one line in your X config file. Basically all that's needed for this is the correct Modeline. It's not in the Installer because nobody has submitted it to Stew as of yet. If you've got it then please post it here on the list and it'll get included for the next version. The graphical install on a radeon based TiBook should work. I reworked it while I had Phil's on loan and it uses the XFree driver, rather than Xpmac. I look at /proc/fb to decide which method to use. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: contrib/cooker/updates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Lundi 10 Juin 2002 00:42, Stew Benedict a écrit : On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: while on my quest to bring my powerbook back to where it was before (kde3, etc) i came across 3 different places for new stuff: contrib, cooker, and updates. before i start going crazy installing stuff i want to be sure that i'm not gong to kill my computer (again ;). pleas let me know if i am correct in the discriptions of these 3 places. contrib: packages not included in 8.2 but will install fine on this system No longer true once cooker begins. I haven't done much with contribs yet. the kde3 stuff that is there should still be safe. I believ Olivier Thauvin has plans to update contribs with cooker materials. Actually, I am still waiting a response from warly or fred about right of upload package. I am setting up a chroot install on titanium. It is hard, unfortunally somes dependencies are broken in ppc cooker. I send it in different mail on cooker-ppc cooker: don't even to attemp to install on an 8.2 install because everything is compiled with gcc3 true updates: updates to the packages that came with the 8.2 cds true Stew Benedict - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0D+bkACgkQk29cDOWzfVBT2gCgvrbZ4ksIwWx+m/5YhWDay/fZ w/EAn32c2pbb6TBd2ZdAHiPo/phgBarj =kdMK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
ld.so.1 seem to be missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all I have a very strange answer of urpmi during a chroot setup on my titanium: First: I setup my chroot with chroot-install install and I choose to setup it with the cooker tree. Install aborted because perl-URPM is missing. After check, this package is present in cooker tree. Perhaps synthethis* need to be rebuild. Second: I decide to install a fresh 8.2 on my chroot. All does not work fine but install is enought to start, I can login in the chroot, install manually urpmi, ssh, and all usually stuff. I setup urpmi on my cooker mirror and start to update to cooker (urpmi --auto - --autoselect). All binary complain me about ld.so.1. This file come from with glibc. I force install of glibc (rpm -Uvh --nodeps) and I had a big surpise: /lib/ld.so.1 is a link to ld-so-2.4.4.so, but actually glibc is 2.2.5 and it install ld.so-2.4.5.so. I have fix manually, but my rpm database is still broken about ld.so.1. I really do not understand what happend with this package. I am looking for by rebuilding cooker glibc. - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj0D/0UACgkQk29cDOWzfVCa5ACgsvsbYvlNg/tHv1kO+/LiP56g 16wAmwQaBRXi5q9L8C+cZaH5LPQKl4JI =z8nm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ld.so.1 seem to be missing
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Olivier Thauvin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all I have a very strange answer of urpmi during a chroot setup on my titanium: First: I setup my chroot with chroot-install install and I choose to setup it with the cooker tree. Install aborted because perl-URPM is missing. After check, this package is present in cooker tree. Perhaps synthethis* need to be rebuild. Second: I decide to install a fresh 8.2 on my chroot. All does not work fine but install is enought to start, I can login in the chroot, install manually urpmi, ssh, and all usually stuff. I setup urpmi on my cooker mirror and start to update to cooker (urpmi --auto - --autoselect). All binary complain me about ld.so.1. This file come from with glibc. I force install of glibc (rpm -Uvh --nodeps) and I had a big surpise: /lib/ld.so.1 is a link to ld-so-2.4.4.so, but actually glibc is 2.2.5 and it install ld.so-2.4.5.so. I have fix manually, but my rpm database is still broken about ld.so.1. I really do not understand what happend with this package. I am looking for by rebuilding cooker glibc. That was my mistake. ld.so.1 was kept for compatibility as we transition into glibc-2.2.5, but I should have put a Provides for ld.so.1 in the glibc package. that's a package I'm not allowed to update, but I'll ask the maintainer to do so next time he updates. As I warned you Olivier urpmi is pretty broken in cooker. People are having all kinds of bizzare problems on the x86 side too. You're probably going to have to update in bits and pieces. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
