Re: Fwd: [Cooker] KDE2.0, Konquerqor bugs
On Monday 13 November 2000 18:11, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Cooker] KDE2.0, Konquerqor bugs Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:36:47 -0700 From: Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, all. Question: is anybody working on Konqueror bugs? I submitted a bug report to qa.mandrakesoft.com regarding Konqueror's inability to handle most java appletts. The big report made it into the bugzilla database, and it got assigned, but there doesn't seem to be any activity on the bug. I ask because there are a lot of other Konqueror bugs, but I won't waste my time reporting them if they are not being worked. Hello, unfortunately, you're reporting bugs at the wrong place. I'm in charge for Konqueror and I work at Mandrake, but I'm not in charge for _100%_ of konqueror. Please have a look at http://bugs.kde.org/ for existing bug reports about konqueror. Those about java are classified under "kjava", and unfortunately I have no clue in this area. On the other hand, if you report bugs about konqueror's file management, network transparency, or overall framework, I'll answer your bug report myself. For HTML rendering and java/javascript, I have to rely on the corresponding authors. So, feel free to report more konqueror bugs, but only on http://bugs.kde.org (or using konqueror's bug report dialog), and after checking for duplicates in the existing reports (no point in spamming the developers with repetitions of the same bug report - this already happens too much). bugzilla should be used for Mandrake-specific bugs, not for KDE bugs. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] beta2 (cervisia, kdevelop, mount cdrom)
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, you wrote: I chose not to enable automounting of my cdrom/floppy. I can find no way graphically to mount the cdrom now. Maybe this should happen automatically, but the way to go is : Right click on desktop, New, CDROM Device, then fill in the properties for the cdrom, and do the same with the Floppy device. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] kdm to poweroff
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, you wrote: now the current policy is to set : halt to halt (and not poweroff) poweroff to poweroff the best way is to patch end-user programs to poweroff, command line user will want to use poweroff command instead of halt here is the patch for kdm : --- kdebase/kdm/kdm-config.h.chmou Sun Jul 30 17:04:45 2000 +++ kdebase/kdm/kdm-config.hTue Sep 19 13:49:44 2000 @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ #endif #ifndef SHUTDOWN_CMD -#defineSHUTDOWN_CMD"/sbin/halt" +#defineSHUTDOWN_CMD"/sbin/poweroff" #endif #ifndef REBOOT_CMD #define REBOOT_CMD "/sbin/reboot" Just in case it's easier, note that you don't have to patch the source code, you can simply put Shutdown=/sbin/poweroff in the kdmrc file (AFAIK there's already one shipped for Mandrake, otherwise it comes from kdebase/kdm/config/kdmrc.in) But thanks for the tip, I was looking for how to do this ;-) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Konqueror limitation
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: This is the message I get from https://netbenefits.401k.com/NBLogin/ using a current (as of 9-19) version of Konqueror. I would report this under the "Report Bug" under the Help menu, but this doesn't exist in Konqueror! Huh ?? Look better, there is a report bug there. It reports as khtml if you're looking at a web page, but that's intentionnal. As of September 15, 2000 you will no longer be able to use this browser to access Fidelity NetBenefits and will need to use an upgraded browser. To download a supported browser, please click on one of the links listed below. Some more stupid browser-detection code that thinks there is only NS and IE in the world, I guess but Harri will look into it. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Installation problem
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, you wrote: Dr Michael Powell PhD a écrit : Dear Sir, You are always yapping about posting in 'text mode' whats the problem anyway? stuck on pine(Kmail) or Elm wake up the rest of the kmail ? It handles HTML perfectly (for reading). -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Konqueror problems
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Konqueror has problems with http://espn.go.com. Netscape sucks worse, and I suspect that ESPN is not too friendly in its coding, but with some development effort, hopefully can display these web pages a bit better. Use the "report bug" dialog box in konqueror to report konqueror bugs. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 beta2 --/dev/dsp permissions
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what are the correct permissions for /dev/dsp? XMMS works fine when I run as root, but when I run XMMS as a user I get an error message about permissions denying access to /dev/dsp the user physically logon on the machine should get it for him. Yes, it should :-) In my own case, it's pure fantasy. For the moment i have : lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 11 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/dsp - .../dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 3 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 19 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 35 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 51 jui 19 18:48 /dev/dsp3 [guillaume@agathe guillaume]$ ll /dev/mixer* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 13 aoû 8 05:58 /dev/mixer - .../dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 0 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer0 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 16 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer1 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 32 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer2 crw---1 guillaum audio 14, 48 jui 19 18:48 /dev/mixer3 /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp symlink doesn't have the same group !? And what's the use of audio group in this situation ? Groups and users for a symlink don't matter at all. See the permissions of the symlink itself : rwxrwxrwx, always. What matters is the file pointed to. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
[Cooker] SB16 problem. Almost works.... almost.
My SB 16 sound card is detected, but no sound makes it to the speakers. Configuration in /etc/conf.modules : options sb irq=5 io=0x220 dma=1 alias sound sb modprobe sb says : Sep 15 09:25:01 faure kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996 Sep 15 09:25:01 faure kernel: SB 4.16 detected OK (220) Looks ok to me :) But cat /dev/sndstat gives : OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux faure 2.2.15-4mdksmp #1 SMP Wed May 10 14:35:15 CEST 2000 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16) Synth devices: Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster There's nothing in Installed drivers nor in Card config.. Where should I look for fixing this ? All the cat blah.au /dev/audio and other things supposed to play sound seem to work (it runs just the right time), but no sound. I've checked volumes and mixer settings, all seem ok there. Thanks ! PS : I can trade 5 answers to KDE problems for a valid answer to this ;-) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] SB16 problem. Almost works.... almost.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: by happy coincidence i have same chip in a similar card (Ensoniq SoundScape, a close relative to the SB16) and am listening to it now.. relevant info from my conf.modules mdk 7.1, 2.2.16 kernel alias sound sb pre-install sound /sbin/insmod sound dmabuf=1 alias midi opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 mpu_io=0x330 then lsmod -a returns... Module SizeUsed By opl3 21 sb 344841 uart4016128 1 [sb] sound 581040 [opl3 sb uart401] soundlow 300 0 [sound] soundcore 2564 7 [sb sound] i would think you would have most of these present in a working configuration. Hi, thanks both for your input, but apparently the problem is not in the modules, I get all that loaded. opl3 14152 0 sb 37812 0 uart401 6736 0 [sb] sound 66552 0 [opl3 sb uart401] soundlow 428 0 [sound] soundcore 4388 5 [sb sound] I tried changing irqs and ports (no idea where to get the correct values, but this card used to work with 220/5/1), I added the mpu_io port number, the dmabuf line, no difference. But still no sound :( Hmm, AAMOF, now it won't modprobe anymore even after reverting to the settings that made modprobe work. I get device or resource busy and Sep 15 22:09:53 faure kernel: sb: dsp reset failed. in the logs. Damn, it's tough to feel clueless again :) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Menu QTDesigner problems
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote: Hi I have a strange problems with my KDE2 menu, since I upgraded to the latest RPMs some of the icons like KControl, Home Directory and Konqueror are now 4 of each, but only one of them works. I tried to delete them in the menudrake but there is only one of each icon there. Did anyone try the QTDesigner, wihich come with QT2.2? I tried to go trough a tutorial but I got some error while compiling, maybe someone knows what is wrong? [shadow@dark pizza]# g++ -I/usr/lib/qt2/include PizzaEntry.cpp PizzaEntryTest.cpp moc_PizzaEntry.cpp -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib -lqt moc_PizzaEntry.cpp:45: new declaration `static void PizzaEntry::staticMetaObject()' PizzaEntry.h:23: ambiguates old declaration `static class QMetaObject * PizzaEntry::staticMetaObject()' moc_PizzaEntry.cpp: In function `void __static_initialization_and_destruction_0(int, int)': moc_PizzaEntry.cpp:29: no matching function for call to `QMetaObjectInit::QMetaObjectInit (QMetaObject * (*)())' /usr/lib/qt2/include/qmetaobject.h:259: candidates are: QMetaObjectInit::QMetaObjectInit(void (*)()) /usr/lib/qt2/include/qmetaobject.h:261: QMetaObjectInit::QMetaObjectInit(const QMetaObjectInit ) For some reason you're using two incompatible "moc" programs, one being probably the Qt1 one. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Gtk theme solved : KDE bug report ?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote : I had a trailing .gtkrf in my home directory. Removing it caused my problems to be solved. Looking inside, i found a comment "automatically generated by KDE". As i tested KDE legacy GTK theme import, maybe is it related ? Yes. KDE's startkde has been fixed so that it restores the original .gtkrc when exiting KDE. -exec ksmserver --restore +ksmserver --restore + +# Restore saved GTK settings. +test -e $HOME/.gtkrc-save mv $HOME/.gtkrc-save $HOME/.gtkrc -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] English-only download
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, you wrote: rsync -rltvP$1 --delete --delete-excluded --stats \ --exclude=SRPMS/ \ --exclude=alpha/ \ --exclude=sparc/ \ --include=cooker/doc/install/uk/ \ --include=cooker/doc/install/uk_cp1251/ \ --exclude=cooker/doc/install/??/ \ --exclude=cooker/doc/install/??_??/ \ --include=aspell-en* \ --exclude=aspell-??-* \ --exclude=aspell-??_??-* \ --include=locales-?.?-* \ --include=locales-en-* \ --exclude=locales* \ --exclude=man-pages-??-* \ --include=howto-html-en-* \ --exclude=howto-html-??-* \ --include=fonts-ttf-decoratives-* \ --include=fonts-ttf-west_european-* \ --exclude=fonts-ttf-* \ --exclude=fonts-type1-* \ ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/ \ /local/downloads/mandrake-devel/ I think you can add kde-i18n-* ;-) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Re: kcontrol still crashes with kdebase-28
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, you wrote: Thanks, running update-menus fixed the problem. Now, while on the topic of, I have a couple of problems with an otherwise perfectly running KDE2. * Session management doesn't seem to work yet, the system doesn't remember much, such as my window starting in the size/position I want them, kword or konqueror remembering what tool bars I want to show/not show at all, the pager remembering if I want it to show previews or just the numbers. Some of those problems have been fixed in KDE's CVS (toolbars and statusbars). Sizes and positions work for konsoles, but I still need to investigate why e.g. konqueror always pops up on desktop 1 * Konqueror: - I usually use it on Virtual Desktop 2, but the dialog box asking me whether or not I want to accept a cookie keeps showing up on Virtual Desktop 1. That has been fixed AFAIK. - Not showing the menu bar makes all keyboard shortcuts go away, very annoying! I didn't realise that.. Hmm, that's a Qt issue, quite difficult to do anything about it. - If using konqueror in full screen mode, no other windows show up, although I can see on the task bar they're running. Not even error messages from konqueror itself show up. Fullscreen means only one app If you want many apps, don't use full screen... -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] 7.2 and KDE
On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote: frank wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, Dr Michael Powell, Ph.D. wrote: YES! and They should be embarressed to release (even beta)nbsp; such a screwed up Distribution perhaps it's too difficult for folks who hafta put a lotta letters (real or not) behind their names to balance the insufficiency of their comments, but construction workers like myself find little difficulty installing, configuring, and using mandrake...if you need help, contact me by private email, and i'll do what i can to get you functioning... The discussion wasn't about installation - I had no trouble getting it installed. The discussion was about how the new KDE is harder to configure and change than the old one - specifically, I can't figure out how to get rid of the stupid task stuff in the panel. Right click the handle, choose Remove. Wow, that was a hard one indeed. ;-) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] KDE2 fun
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, you wrote: KDE2 fun (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=2904053045) Here come a proof that RPM-packages can actually be fun sometimes. Guess what is required by kdebase package in cooker? [denis@ke RPMS]$ rpm -qp --requires kdebase-1.93-18mdk.i586.rpm|grep Xm libXm.so.1 libXmu.so.6 So we finaly know what library this KDE2 is REALLY based on, right? ;- (hint: rpm -q --whatprovides libXm.so.1) Yeah, as if anyone ever believed that one could build such a big project on Qt! ,- Motif is needed for the Netscape Plugin support (in konqueror) only. (optionnally when compiling from sources, but not optionnally in a RPM). -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-1.92-14mdk
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Christopher Molnar wrote: Name: kdebase Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.92 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 14mdk Build Date: Wed Aug 16 21:58:21 2000 [root@cloud RPMS]# rpm -Fvh k* qt2* error: failed dependencies: libkde-qt-addon.so.3 is needed by kdebase-1.92-14mdk It's a buggy dependency. Ignore it (--force or --nodeps). -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Problem in launching applications in KDE after connection with Kppp (no network)
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, you wrote: I launch application before connect with kppp because if I'm connected I've this messages [root@localhost temp]# kmail _IceTransSocketUNIXConnect: Cannot connect to non-local host localhost.localdomain http://www.mandrakeuser.org/troubles/tquick2.html Problem: Cannot start X apps after connecting with kppp. Cause: kppp changes your hostname on connect. X now thinks new X clients come from an unrecognized host. Fix: Edit your account, and under the IP page uncheck "auto-configure hostname from this IP". kppp setup highlight account name edit IP tab uncheck Auto-configure hostname from this IP. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] kwm non-problem, kde continuing problems
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, David Aspinall wrote : Sorry about the spurious report about this: I see that kde2 has "kwin" instead (although some files still refer to kwm, so it's confusing). Which files ? Something else was preventing kwin from starting but the problem has gone away with current kde rpms. I'm still having problems with the new kde, not sure if they're kde or mdk related. Main one is that it seems impossible to get rid of the menu bar along the top of the screen. I really don't want it! If you do Desktop / Configure Desktop / uncheck Enable Desktop Menu, doesn't it go away ? Also autohide on the panel seems faulty, it only pops up when the mouse pointer is on the hide buttons at either end. I think this has been fixed in current CVS. - David. me too :) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] kdesu: su is not found...
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote:
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow... this is amusing...
I want to start DrakConf from my desktop, kdesu starts, I type the root
passwd and then a dialog screen comes up explaining that:
"The program 'su' is not found!
Make sure your PATH is set correctly"
Anyone else seen this?
Yes, this has been around for a while but no one fixes it.
Chris, I tried to investigate a little bit but I have only little
knowledge of KDE. I tried to strace the thingy, my best guess is that it
does not succeed to exec /usr/bin/konsole_grantpty
Also the message "daemon not launched" at the beginning is not amusing at
all. I could solve the problem by doing "chmod g+s /usr/bin/kdesud" but
was no avail for the main problem.
I tried also to chmod +s konsole_granpty but still the there is an
`operation not permitted':
3924 execve("/usr/bin/konsole_grantpty", ["konsole_grantpty", "--grant"],
[/* 41 vars */]) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
I think, from here, it fails.
Chris, or David, or another KDE coder :-), can you investigate?
It's exactly as far as I got in a quick investigation, then I reported it to the kdesu
author
(but no answer).
If Chris doesn't find it tomorrow, I'll have another look after him, but I'm
overloaded currently...
--
David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Back from Vacation.
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote: Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, Ron Stodden wrote: Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [1] http://devel.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/misc/vacation.jpg Chmouel, that's a lovely picture ... Chmoeul, a week laying in the sun on a halmock where the hell is the tan? (Don't tell me French boys never tan :-) ) - I think you got out there just for the picture. I'm sorry but what "tan" means? The dictionnary is of no help :-(. "bronzage" and "bronzer", for the noun and the verb :) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] kdesu: su is not found...
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote:
[/* 41 vars */]) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
I think, from here, it fails.
Chris, or David, or another KDE coder :-), can you investigate?
hrmmm this is odd, though I could be reading this wrong(reading an strace is
about as fun as throwing salt in your eyes : p )
875 execve("/usr/local/bin/konsole_grantpty",
["konsole_grantpty","--grant"], [/* 44 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
875 execve("/bin/konsole_grantpty", ["konsole_grantpty", "--grant"], [/*
44 vars */])
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
875 execve("/usr/bin/konsole_grantpty", ["konsole_grantpty", "--grant"],
[/* 44 vars */]) = 0
So it seems to find it and everything appears to be going ok.
then...
875 write(2, "konsole_grantpty not installed r"..., 41) = 41
875 _exit(1) = ?
873 ... wait4 resumed [WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1], 0, NULL) =
875
873 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---
well, it dies a few lines below that.
Seeing the code from the end of strace isn't easy :-)
if ((pid = fork()) == -1)
{
kdError(900) k_lineinfo "fork(): " perror "\n";
return -1;
}
if (pid)
{
// Parent: wait for child
int ret;
waitpid(pid, ret, 0);
if (WIFEXITED(ret) !WEXITSTATUS(ret))
return 0;
kdError(900) k_lineinfo "konsole_grantpty returned with error: "
WEXITSTATUS(ret) "\n";
return -1;
} else
{
// Child: exec konsole_grantpty
if (ptyfd != pty_fileno dup2(ptyfd, pty_fileno) 0)
_exit(1);
execlp("konsole_grantpty", "konsole_grantpty", "--grant", NULL);
kdError(900) k_lineinfo "exec(): " perror "\n";
_exit(1);
}
So the fact that the child exits is ok... The error message isn't though...
So this is what I'm getting over here.
Hrm an idea, maybe kde2 in it's current form(cvs-ware) in the cooker
should be compiled with debugging symbols ?
What does "konsole_grantpty --grant" say for you ?
I get
konsole_grantpty: cannot determine the name of device.
which is ttyname(3)
--
David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] kdesu: su is not found...
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, you wrote: not intented to be called from the command line. Ah! Doh But looking at this a few steps back.. kdebase contains kdesu so lets look at what I have installed right now. rpm -qa | grep kde kdesupport-1.92-12mdk kdelibs-1.92-12mdk kdenetwork-1.92-12mdk so I then go to download kdebase and install it. Failed dependencies: kdebase-1.92-12mdk requires libkde-qt-addon.so.3 libkde-qt-addson is supposed to be a part of the kdesupport package right ? No, it's dead. Force the installation, this error is bogus. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] what happened to kwm?
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: kwm seems to have disappeared from the current rpms... It's kwin now. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Cooker's version of KDE2 1.92
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, you wrote: Hello, I have never got konqueror to work (well not for ages and ages anyway). I could tell you what the output is but really I've reported this many times before. Occassionaly, just for laughs I let the auto crash report tool report the bug for me, but nothing seems to change ! I've tried clean installs, up-dates but still nothing. Which bug number is that ? konqueror works well for everyone now I need to know more about your problem if you want some help. I really hope KDE 2 is ready by the next release complete with multiple kicker's Can anyone tell me if you can have multiple kickers yet ? I reported this bug direct to KDE only to get a reply after some time stating it was fixed, but it blatently wasn't. I use one kpanel for launch icons and a top kpanel for their window icons. Why they got rid of this functionality defeats me - but I may be wronging them since I am not running the latest :-) Currently I am sticking with KDE 1 since almost everything I do relies on KDE 1 and without konqueror or two kpanel's (kicker's) I will not go over yet !! Support for it was half-added, then removed. That's why. It will be for after 2.0 AFAIK. We want to get a stable 2.0 out, and work on the unfinished stuff after. Otherwise KDE 2 will never be there :) -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Kde-1.92 (20000802mdk)(?)
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote: I thout we were using a NEWER version of KDE in latest cooker? Newer than ? 1.92 ? 2802 is definitely newer than 1.92. but this is what ZDNet's website reports that I am using... ? Your Browser is not compatible with SpotOn Turbo Any idea what it's looking for ? Your browser reports that it is: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Konqueror/1.92 Beta = 2802mdk; X11); Supports gzip encoding That's right... -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] file conflict mpeg_lib-1.3.1-3mdk -- kdemultimedia-1.92-6mdk
On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, you wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 11:01:51PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: file /usr/lib/libmpeg.so from install of mpeg_lib-1.3.1-3mdk conflicts with file from package kdemultimedia-1.92-6mdk Remove it from kdemultimedia I'd say It's not the same package. It's a different thing with the same name. It will be renamed. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Compiling with KDE2 installed
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:57:03PM -0500, Steve Fox wrote: I don't believe they have made an effort to convert to KDE2, but I thought that the kde1-compat stuff was supposed to take care of that? Maybe that's only binary library support, not headers? It's headers as well, but you need to pass some flags to configure to tell it where to find them. Use rpm -ql to see where the kde1-compat headers are installed then use --with-kde-includes, --with-kde-libs etc. (from memory) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] kdesu from kdebase-1.92 is bad
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 01:28:08AM -0500, Steve Fox wrote: kdesu from above package no longer accepts the -c option which disables using MandrakeUpdate and others as non-root Chris fixed it, it does now. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE and alsa?
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:43:43AM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Does kde need alsa nowadays? Nope. KDE checks for it. So if you had it and removed it, rmove your config.cache and re-run configure. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Compiling with KDE2 installed
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 08:02:09PM -0500, Steve Fox wrote: I'm trying to compile the latest version of Quanta Plus and I'm getting this errors: Which version of KDE is it supposed to compile against ? -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] koffice needs libkscript.so.1
This has been fixed. PS : your computer date is completely wrong. (Sep 06) On Sat, Sep 06, 2036 at 03:19:39AM -0700, Quel Qun wrote: Hi, # rpm -U koffice-1.92-1mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: libkscript.so.1 is needed by koffice-1.92-1mdk =-= kk1 Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE2
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 10:10:31AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: David Faure wrote: kpackage is a little bit confusing: Hmm, please report to the kpackage author (use the bug report dialog). Not many core developers put their hands in kpackage... David, Not reported elsewhere that I have seen: kpackage (run by root as loaded from DrakConf) under kde1 will accept drag and drop of an RPM. kpackage (run by root as loaded from DrakConf) under kde2 rejects drag and drop of an RPM (cursor changes to a crossed-out circle). Has the kde2 drag and drop protocol changed in any way from kde1? From this, it would seem that it has, or else the KDE2 implementation of DD has a bug. The implementation of Dnd in KDE 1 was KDE-specific, since at that time there was no standard for Dnd. It's been ditched, and KDE (Qt) now use the XDND protocol, compatible with gnome and other X apps. Just wait until you can delete all KDE 1 apps :-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] kde-1.92-1 needs lesstif?
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 06:18:56PM -0400, Dirk Lison wrote: Upgrading to kdebase-1.92-1mdk and kdemultimedia-1.92-1mdk (from v2726) required libXm.so.1 which I found in lesstif. In case you wonder why, this is so that konqueror can support netscape plugins (which use motif/lesstif). -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE-1.92 showing on the mirrors!
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 04:57:09AM -0500, Sergio P.Korlowsky wrote: Is this the oficial kde-1.92 beta release? Yes, you're being lucky having it before it's officially announced. Sssshhh ;-) BTW, the current CVS is already better than 1.92 ... ah, opensource development, you've got to love it... :) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Odd Netscape Behavior
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 05:22:07PM +0400, Guillaume Rousse wrote: David Walluck a écrit : On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Guillaume Rousse wrote: - no auto-completion of adresses Is that possible under Unix? I mean : only local domain auto-completion, not from my adress book. Altough i have an entry for cooker in it, just typing cooker attemps to send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : not really useful :-) This is done by the DNS lookup configuration (/etc/resolv.conf) not by Netscape. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Bad kde 2.0, bad kde.
DCOP is started by "kdeinit". Is kdeinit running ? Is there a "kdeinit: dcopserver" process in ps's output ? Since startkde is supposed to start kdeinit, if something fails at that point there's a bug. To find what's happening, look into ~/.xsession-errors (assuming you're using xdm/kdm/gdm). If you can't make sense of what's there, send it to me. HTH. On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 10:06:36PM +, B Barley wrote: The kde2 packages now on the mirror still seem to have a problem with dcop. No kde2 program will load, including kde2 itself. Executing kmail from a terminal I get the following response: KuniqueApplication: Child can't attacht to DCOP. I tried starting DCOP, but it still does the same. Is there a configuration file for DCOP that needs to be created? Or is there another problem? I know this has been on the list for a couple of days now. Any idea when the next set of kde2 packages will be up on the mirror? Bryan -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Latest KDE2 problems
On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 10:24:18PM -0400, Christopher Molnar wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, David Walluck wrote: And kdm wants dcopserver running? Fixed now. New build will be put together on Wed. Ah ? So my commit to kdmdesktop fixed the problem ? Good to know, since I couldn't test it :-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE 2
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 08:42:03PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote: Thanks for responding, David. My pleasure. :-) Why is it that the Reply-To on your post isn't set to cooker@ ? Strange. On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, David Faure wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 10:46:48PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote: ... snip ... #6180 - KMid not working. Started from Konsole, where I saw an interesting debug message "You're using ALSA but kmid was not compiled with ALSA support - ask your package builder to include the support or build from source." I'm amazed that such an application cares what sound system you're using, as long as it's an approved linux one. Noatun happily plays wav files... But kmid's goal is not to play wav files... Well, of course, but I did mean that the included /opt/kde2/share/apps/kmid/*.kar refused to play. Ah... Ok. What else would you use kmid for? Playing midi files. #6181 KWord produces SIGSEGV while importing simple Word 97 doc Tell MS to release their file format :-) So, still a problem then? No, apparently the filter works more or less with Word97 docs, now. It doesn't like Word2000 docs at all, though. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE2
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 01:01:57AM +0200, Udo Weber wrote: Hi, I know KDE2 is Beta but not far from the offical release. Here some experiences and bugs: After the update from a current cooker-version, most things don't works. Especialy dcopserver related bugs. Now I have done a complete new installation from the last mirror snapshot on another partition. I have now no error-messages relating dcop. I think an update from the old KDE should not be recommended for the moment! So... the old one works better than the new one ? Chris is trying to repackage a newer one (1.92, soon out). Somtimes a application crashs (like kcontrol) but most things are stable in the new installation. kcontrol ? On exit then, I guess ? This has been fixed. There are some things which are should fixed in near future: - the wellknown problem with the kdm (session select). Hopefully fixed, waiting for feedback (didn't have time to test yet) - always at startup all desktop icons are in the upper left korner arrange icons + safe desktop don't helps I fixed this one last Tuesday. - where are the nice themes from the old release ? not compatible ? They are, with some compatibility code. Not sure what's the status of the kcontrol module for selecting them though. - no xscreensaver in Screensaver-selection ? I thought there was ? kpackage is a little bit confusing: Hmm, please report to the kpackage author (use the bug report dialog). Not many core developers put their hands in kpackage... -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Konsole, kpilot still not working...
You can apply this patch to kdebase:
--- kdebase-1.1.2/konsole/src/main.C.srtxgThu Jul 13 20:22:40 2000
+++ kdebase-1.1.2/konsole/src/main.C Thu Jul 13 21:02:28 2000
@@ -81,8 +81,14 @@
#define WITH_VGA
-char *fonts[] = {"6x13", "5x7", "6x10", "7x13", "9x15", "10x20",
- "linux8x16", "linux8x8" };
+char *fonts[] = {"6x13,*-medium-r-*-13-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "5x7,*-medium-r-*-7-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "6x10,*-medium-r-*-10-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "7x13,*-medium-r-*-13-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "9x15,*-medium-r-*-15-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "10x20,*-medium-r-*-20-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "linux8x16,*-medium-r-*-16-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*",
+ "linux8x8,*-medium-r-*-8-*-c-*,*-fixed-*,*-fixed-*,*-m-*" };
static QIntDictTESession no2session;
static QPtrDictvoid session2no;
The problem is that konsole has hardcoded font names; and those
font names are only valide for latin1 encoding.
konsole in kde2 does
const char *fonts[] = {
"6x13", // FIXME: "fixed" used in favor of this
"5x7", // tiny font, never used
"6x10", // small font
"7x13", // medium
"9x15", // large
"10x20", // huge
"-misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-iso10646-1", // "Linux"
"-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso10646-1",// "Unicode"
};
Do you think the first 6 ones should be fixed the same way ?
I think it works with non-latin1 fonts, though, given that there are
non-latin-1 users. Just wondering.
--
David FAURE
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE 2
On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 10:46:48PM +0100, Peter Ruskin wrote: I reposted the scripts in my reply to Alex Boag-Munroe. My word, the posts are taking ages now. Meanwhile, my reactions to kde2 0708 build ... It does look beautiful, but I can't believe that it'll be ready for the scheduled release date, particularly KOffice, which, after konqueror, ought to be the best killer-app. We're working on this :) I've sent in several bug reports: #6178 KWord still can't print underlines and doesn't highlight while spellchecking #6179 General (wishlist) - lamenting the passing of KPanel and the top taskbar, which I miss even more than the old menu system (the latter having nothing to do with KDE, it's a Mandrake mistake) #6180 - KMid not working. Started from Konsole, where I saw an interesting debug message "You're using ALSA but kmid was not compiled with ALSA support - ask your package builder to include the support or build from source." I'm amazed that such an application cares what sound system you're using, as long as it's an approved linux one. Noatun happily plays wav files... But kmid's goal is not to play wav files... #6181 KWord produces SIGSEGV while importing simple Word 97 doc Tell MS to release their file format :-) #6182 KSpread can't do date calculations, treating dates as text. This is fixed now. #6183 - KWord crashes while importing plain text file Does this still happen ? Yesterday we tested this filter extensively and it worked fine. I guess it was a bug in KWord, which has been fixed now. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] ANNOUNCE: kde upgrade
Try the current version. All those bugs have been fixed, except accessing the Mandrake website. I'm going to take care of that right now :-) On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 09:00:42AM +0100, Alex Boag-Munroe wrote: I have a couple of questions as I still have some issues with KDE2 I do like it, but things still crash a bit too often. Konqueror won't take me to Mandrake's website! Falls at the language switch hurdle and leaves me staring at a blank page. Nutscrape does it fine. Also, an auto download script on www.trelos.com failed to run on konqueror. I still cannot run icons like Drakconf and Xkill from my desktop. Just says it can't run them. KDEsu does not kick in either. Many thanks Alex -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] KDE 2
Only looking at ~/.xsession-errors after an attempt to log in from e.g. kdm, can tell you what the problem really is. On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 05:40:55PM +0200, NEPOTE Charles (Neuilly Gestion) wrote: -Message d'origine- De : Alex Boag-Munroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mardi 11 juillet 2000 16:27 À : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet : RE: [Cooker] KDE 2 Hi Chris, thanks for the responses. I've listed my comments under yours, see below. There was one problem I forgot to mention. On the first reboot after installing KDE2, it stuffs the fixed width font. Luckily I have a backup of all the fonts and was able to put them back, but still annoying. Wouldn't go into X at all. Same problem for me, I can't get into X at all : how to fix it ? Need to reinstall a rpm ? Thanks, Charles Népote. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] Netscape 6.0 and good?
As for konquerer, It bairly managed to load a very basic page before it fell over ! Try the current one... What plugins are they planning to use ? Different ones again !? konqueror supports Netscape plugins. http://www.konqueror.org/ -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] kdbg 1.1.x
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:36:54PM +0200, Francis Galiegue wrote: For now, cooker contains kdbg 1.0.2, which is the latest stable release. Has anyone tried kdbg 1.1.X and hence can tell me if it's worth including ? I have tried the current kdbg (from its CVS), and it seems to work fine. And it has support for KDE 1.91 (as a configure option) which is quite nice. I'm not a heavy user of kdbg, though. (gdb is faster, but kdbg allows inspecting QStrings). -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE2 dependecy error
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 07:52:08AM +, Xuejun Liu wrote: This probably sounds stupid, but I can't figure out the solution by myself. :-( I downloaded the kdeall-2608-1.i586.rpm package several days ago. When I try to install it, it always complains that ' error: failed dependencies: /usr/local/bin/perl is needed by kdeall-2608-1 *** Well, I used 'ln -s /usr/bin/perl5.6.0 /usr/local/bin/perl' and 'ln -s /usr/bin/perl5.6.0 /usr/local/bin/perl5', but no lucky. I even 'cp /usr/bin/perl* /usr/local/bin/', the error persists. Any thoughts? This is a dumb dependency. Just install with --nodeps and it will work perfectly. Chris knows about the problem. You may want to try a more recent package, btw. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] KDE2 dependecy error
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 04:01:26PM +0800, Geoffrey Lee wrote: gure out the solution by myself. :-( I downloaded the kdeall-2608-1.i586.rpm package several days ago. When I try to install it, it always complains that ' ** it looks like you need to do find . -type f -exec perl -pi -e 's/\/usr\/local\/bin\/perl/\/usr\/bin\/perl/' \; in hte spec. The spec doesn't contain /usr/local/bin/perl. It's apparently some kdoc files that do (even though they are always called by "perl file", they start with #!/usr/local/bin/perl, and this confuses rpm I guess. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: RE: [Cooker] KDE2 dependecy error
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 04:16:49PM +0800, Geoffrey Lee wrote: some kdoc files that do (even though they are always called by "perl file", they start with #!/usr/local/bin/perl, and this confuses rpm I guess. yep it does that's why i told him to add find . -name -exec perl -pi -e 's/ ...(blah blah blha) see pervous mail line to prevent such hpapenings. this line, will remove the /usr/local/bin/perl with /usr/bin/perl. Ah I see, sorry. You meant adding that line to the spec to edit files, I thought you meant applying that line to the spec file itself. I'll have a look at fixing that in the cvs code, once and for all. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] RE: KDE2 dependecy error
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 08:30:39AM +, Xuejun Liu wrote: Yes, I did it with --nodeps, but kde2 won't start. Did you apply the instructions from http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html ? Alternatively, install the rpm called kde2and1scripts, which does the same (available in cooker). Where to download more recent package? On http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/ but not right now - wait for a few hours/day. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] RE: KDE2 dependecy error
Look into ~/.xsession-errors for error messages. As a quick hack, you can also try adding the "source /opt/kde2/bin/kde2" line at the beginning of /opt/kde2/bin/startkde. This is not necessary in theory, but it can help fixing the problem. BTW, did you try the kde2and1scripts rpm ? On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 08:56:00AM +, Xuejun Liu wrote: Yes, I did. I can see the KDE2 options in gdm menus, but when I try to start it, the screen blinks once and then back to gdm login again. :-( From: David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] RE: KDE2 dependecy error Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 03:38:54 -0500 On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 08:30:39AM +, Xuejun Liu wrote: Yes, I did it with --nodeps, but kde2 won't start. Did you apply the instructions from http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html ? Alternatively, install the rpm called kde2and1scripts, which does the same (available in cooker). Where to download more recent package? On http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/ but not right now - wait for a few hours/day. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/, http://www.konqueror.org/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Minor install gotchas on KDE2
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 12:03:25PM -0800, Civileme wrote: KDE2 Rpms ar on contrib and seem to work tolerably well, but first one has to DL openssl, The sources support openssl _optionnally_ but of course with a binary package, there's no choice. It's either excluded or required. and even with ln -s /usr/bin/perl5.6.0 /usr/local/bin/perl the blasted sdk rpm complains about no perl in /usr/local/bin I told Chris about this bug, next RPMS won't have this problem. I did a --nodeps install and I get segfaults here and there and some freezeups that need ctrl-alt-backspace. Hmm, really ? Don't have that here... Anyone have any idea what other resources need to be symlinked at /usr/local/bin to keep KDE2 happy? None. Next item--I used David Faure's advice on kde1-and-kde2.html and all the user Cool :) I set up to test kde2 can use is KDE2, which comes up no matter what I select. Furthermore, kdm does not show the KDE2 choice even after /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime. Yeah apparently this happens to quite a few people. I can't figure out why. Any time to debug it ? mandrake_everytime calls /usr/bin/fndSession which does the job: it's suppose to modify /usr/share/config/kdmrc using the window-managers file. It worked for me, but my installation isn't really a standard one... :-} It also appears that /etc/X11/Xsessions is an artifact--a nice script no longer executed, and I am still looking for where things happen. Not used anymore ? Ah ! That would be why I wasn't sure it had to be modified or not :-) Anyone knows how stuff is executed by kdm, in Mandrake ? (Ah - does xdm-config point to another file than Xsession, for executing stuff ?) Anyway - the point in window-managers is that if it appears automatically in kdm, it should manage to run it fine - so both problems are the same I guess. On the other hand--KDE2 is definitely quite nice. I sold a Windows user die-hard by showing him KDE2. ;-)) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] MIME types in KDE
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 08:08:01AM -0400, Gallagher wrote: quick question, how would I configure KDE to use XMMS as the default audio player? When changing MIME types in KDE it only allows you to pick from a certain selection of programs to open with a certain file type. How would one add something to that list? Create a kdelnk for xmms. This is explained in the user guide available on web site: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/reference/004.html#38 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] [discuss] wine configuration
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 03:23:27PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suggestions: 1. Preconfigured Wine 2. Associated Wine with .exe files in KDE/Gnome 3. Graphical config for Wine I was using another distribution the other day, I currently run Mandrake and then whichever new promising one comes out. When using the new distro I noticed that when browsing through a Windows' parition the .exe files were already associated with wine in KDE. I thought this was great! The wine configuration was decent enough that it ran a couple programs flawlessly without even having to touch a configuration file! Now I know changes will need to be made by most users in order to improve performance, but initial configuration being already associated with .exe files in KDE is a great option. Oh in case it helps I was using Caldera eDesktop. Also, I don't know if one currently exists but a graphical configuration for Wine would be great! A good idea -- only problem is that [IMHO, i almost never used wine] you must be root to run wine no? Of course not. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] MIME types in KDE
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 03:50:31PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 08:08:01AM -0400, Gallagher wrote: quick question, how would I configure KDE to use XMMS as the default audio player? When changing MIME types in KDE it only allows you to pick from a certain selection of programs to open with a certain file type. How would one add something to that list? Create a kdelnk for xmms. This is explained in the user guide available on web site: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/reference/004.html#38 Yes, David, but with our menu-system, all manually created kdelnk shall be deleted.. Which shows a major flaw somewhere. That menu system is cool per se, but unless all distributions adopt it, it creates a major incompatibility not only between distributions but also compared to the core product, and it makes support more complex for the KDE/gnome/... developers. Distributions are doing more and more distribution-specific changes, and it's getting more and more difficult for the free-software developers to understand what's going on with their own software and why users have trouble with it ! Don't think that the distributions can handle the users questions. Rightfully most questions go to the project developers themselves, or the mailing-lists/ newsgroups, and they are often more likely to be answered there than e.g. here (most mandrake-fun questions are not answered, whereas I make sure most questions on comp.windows.x.kde are). Anyway, the point is, differenciation between distros leads to fragmentation - quite strange to say that about that feature which is about unification, but true. So the right thing to do is to edit the /usr/lib/menu/* files, adding the kde mimetypes entries.. So the web site needs an update. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] MIME types in KDE
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 04:41:13PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, David, but with our menu-system, all manually created kdelnk shall be deleted.. Which shows a major flaw somewhere. That menu system is cool per se, but unless all distributions adopt it, it creates a major incompatibility not only between distributions but also compared to the core product, and it makes support more complex for the KDE/gnome/... developers. Distributions are doing more and more distribution-specific changes, and it's getting more and more difficult for the free-software developers to understand what's going on with their own software and why users have trouble with it ! Don't think that the distributions can handle the users questions. Rightfully most questions go to the project developers themselves, or the mailing-lists/ newsgroups, and they are often more likely to be answered there than e.g. here (most mandrake-fun questions are not answered, whereas I make sure most questions on comp.windows.x.kde are). Anyway, the point is, differenciation between distros leads to fragmentation - quite strange to say that about that feature which is about unification, but true. Sad but true.. And another example is the window-managers file. Pretty neat, but inconsistent too - with the same results. "kdmrc is rewritten at the next reboot" has been a problem for many users... including me. But now I give specific instructions to Mandrake 7.x users, so that they edit window-managers instead. I don't know what we should do for that. At the present time, users will certainly try to edit the kdelnk with the builtin KDE editor for example, and notice that their brand new stuff is deleted at each install of another mandrake package :-(. Right. I don't know the position of Redhat, Suse, etc, about this Debian-designed menusystem. I personally think it's good, it adds more useability to end-user. Then it would be a good idea to talk to those distribs, and get them on board too. However, to be honest, it leads to big trouble at present time. For example, the nice png's of Gnome are converted to xpm's, so the transperencies are mainly lost, and they appear real bad. KDE 2.x uses pngs too, so the menu system should really be improved to support pngs. Some packages come with their own .kdelnk or .desktop and these files come deleted. So external [eg Redhat] packages will lead to much problems now. I don't know a good solution to address that problem :-(. Well it should be fairly simple in theory: the menu system should only deal with what it knows about, and leave untouched the .kdelnk or .desktop files that come from external packages. The current behaviour, instead, is quite ... aggressive. I suppose this was to make the migration easier (deleting the existing kdelnk/desktop files), but rpm -U could have done that instead, no ? Deleting something that the user or an external packages could have provided is always a bad thing to do, in any case. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] MIME types in KDE
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 05:17:15PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well it should be fairly simple in theory: the menu system should only deal with what it knows about, and leave untouched the .kdelnk or .desktop files that come from external packages. The current behaviour, instead, is quite ... aggressive. I suppose this was to make the migration easier (deleting the existing kdelnk/desktop files), but rpm -U could have done that instead, no ? The problem if we leave the user's files unchanged, is that we come with a menu completely screw up. - entries at the root level, duplicate entries, "apps" and "applications" groups, etc.. Because of the files in ~/.kde/share/applnk ? Ok, the _first_ time, user's files could be removed (or rather backed up), but once that's done, the user should be allowed to add kdelnks back again, where he wants to... And this doesn't apply to 'external' packages, which install into the global dirs anyway. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] MIME types in KDE
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 10:14:14PM +0200, Denis HAVLIK wrote: :~ Yes, David, but with our menu-system, all manually created kdelnk shall be :~ deleted.. :~ :~Which shows a major flaw somewhere. That menu system is cool per se, but unless :~all distributions adopt it, it creates a major incompatibility not only :~between distributions but also compared to the core product, AFAIK, "menu" system has been taken from debian, so at least in this case, we are not making the mess any biger by developing yet another manu system, but helping a good system to become a new standard in the future. Yeah, that's good - I learned that only today. But from the questions I got about KDE's kdelnks, I doubt the debian one really worked the same way, otherwise using it would have been straightforward ;-) And as was pointed out, Mandrake was usually RH-compatible. Now it's kinda hybrid between RH and debian, i.e. incompatible with both ;-) Getting other distros to use the same system would be a good thing, indeed. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Web site
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 02:11:29PM -0800, Civileme wrote: Nice to have one that scales with the browser. Konqueror likes it. BTW, Konqueror crashes with SIGSEGV all over the place _unless_ java and javascript are activated, then it seems to be pretty smooth and even looks at sites that will choke Netscape. Try upgrading to the latest konqueror - many crashes have been fixed, thanks to the ton of bug reports we got after the beta :) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] More beta 2 feedback
If you grep the output of ps for a process called kfm, does it show "kfm" or "kfm -w" ? The latter doesn't show the desktop icons... On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 04:05:11PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Marc B. Sitkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 02:46 PM 5/22/00 +0200, you wrote: Marc Sitkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing I specifically did not do was choose to install KDE. While working in Gnome today, I launched what must have been a KDE app, which overlayed the KDE desktop over my gnome desktop. 2 Icons for everything! What gives? Could you give more details? -- Guillaume Cottenceau I believe I launched the Mail client from the panel dropdown menu- probably under web or internet. Looked like Kmail opened, and at the same time kfm launched. This is when all of the kde desktop icons appeared. I had two Home folders with different icons, two HdO icons, one trash icon, one zip, one floppy and one cd icon. very weird. all the apps can be launched from any wm, without launching the root handling for icons of kfm or gmc [except gmc itself, as of beta2, but has been fixed].. anyone else experienced the same problem? Unfortunately, I can't replicate this state, because of some other problems that I believe have trashed my installation, and possibly my hard drive. After installing a 128 bit version of netscape, while on the helixcode site, I clicked on the helix download link. The page stalled, and my hard drive immediately started thrashing. Shutting down and restarting allows me to log into x, but as soon as I do anything, the thrashing starts again. I'll probably reformat tonight, and install beta 3 if I can download it today at work. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] More beta 2 feedback
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:22:23AM -0400, Marc B. Sitkin wrote: By the way, I chose not to install kde because I have the kde2 beta rpms that I wished to load. Why did I end up with kde app's on a gnome only install? Because some apps relied on kfm for their network transparency, in KDE 1.x. This is not the case with KDE 2, where all apps are 'standalone' even for the network transparency functionality. I doubt this applied to kmail, though. Must have been something else. PS: take everything I say with a bit of salt too, it's been 8 months I haven't used KDE 1.x ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Netscape
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 12:58:47PM +0200, Pablo Saratxaga wrote: Kaixo! On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 12:12:02PM -0400, Michael Gallagher wrote: How do you enable the "Increase Font Size" command under the View Menu in Netscape? Is this possible or is it a feature that was never implemented into the Linux version? I never saw it on Linux :-( Advertisement: konqueror has that feature ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KDE loses defaults after installation
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 02:54:27AM -0700, Melvin R. Herndon wrote: Hello all. Forgive this message if it has already been addressed, just signed up on cooker mailing list. Have a Micron Millenia 600 PIII 256 megs ram, Diamond Viper 770 TNT2 card(OEM 16meg), 27 gig western digital, dual boot. Intel Seattle II motherboard. Yamaha 740 soundcard. I have 7.02 version of Mandrake and it has been running no problem. I upgraded to the beta and found that it hoses up the defaults for KDE. No icons on the panel, right click select new, only shows ability to add folders, no mime types, etc. I've heard about this before :(( I'm not running the 7.1 beta, so please look for me: - do you have any kdelnks in ~/Desktop/Templates ? - does /usr/share/config/kfmrc have a line with Templates= ? - does ~/.kde/share/config/kfmrc have a line with Templates= ? (We're talking about KDE-1.1.2, right ? Not about 1.90 ? ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] file association
Looks like you didn't configure the file associations properly. (More exactly that the DefaultApp field for the mimetypes is missing). Those mimetypes files (mimelnk/*/*.kdelnk) are not touched by the "menu" thing, right ? In this case I think it's just a problem in your configuration. It's all very well explained with nice screenshots and all on http://www.linux-mandrake.com/userguide/en/reference/004.html#38 Why not try to follow the instructions there, and we'll see to it if there's still a problem somewhere ? David. On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:42:21PM -0700, Michael Holt wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would probably be the problem; I don't have the last part in my /usr/lib/menu/kmp3 file (the part that says kde_mimetype=.) Has that been changed in more recent packages? Or do I just need to edit the file myself? The player works fine, and sound is configured correctly, that is everything seems to be working (however, I don't have a folder /usr/share/sndconfig on my system). Yep, we changed that about one week ago. You can edit the file by yourself and launch "update-menus", if you don't want to d/l the new package. forgot: and logout of KDE, re-login, at that time KDE will parse all the mimetypes to build up its auto-association. -- Guillaume Cottenceau Ok, this is still a problem. I tried editing the files myself, and they still didn't work. Tried updating the 'menu' package (I assumed this was the correct package to update) and rebooted, still no change. This is a strange problem indeed; when I click on an .xpm file, the image viewer program opens and displays the icon. When I right-click on the same file, the menu gives me the option of opening that file with the image viewer or the icon editor - that's the way it should be. When I open a text file, same thing, I get the correct program opening up by default to show the contents of the file. Now, when I open an .rpm file (as user or root), the 'open with' browser pops up asking me what I want to use to open that file - even though kde already assigned the the correct 'rpm' icon to it - I'm assuming that kde does know what kind of file it is. Same thing with .mp3 files, they are assigned the 'kmp3' icon, but I still get the 'open with' browser asking what program I want to use. When I right click on the .mp3 file, there are no options for a program to open with, just the top of the menu which says 'open with'. Same thing with .avi, they have the correct icon, they just don't know that they should use 'aktion' to open up. Does this make sense? To me, it seems like something in kde is broken; some files work, some don't. Can you direct me to the correct package for updating? I'm stumped. Thanks for your patience, Mike -- == Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirkland, WA == The Penguins are coming!!! ====== -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Horribly-bloated memory usage?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:21:49AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What memory meter you use? What you see is certainly user+buffer+cache. Looks your X server is 3dfx svga? Thats normal. The memory amount is explained in the (rt)fm. My X server (nvidia x4) shows me 256MB (100%) of mem used (ín top) for whatever reason. Oh wait. You using KDE2? Then its only user :) hehe yes thats a hog. Nope. 10MB only for kicker. haha. 10 kdeinits with up to 8MB each. hehe. Nope. They _share_ the same 8MB. Don't trust ps, it's clueless. Read /proc if you want real information. And read http://developer.kde.org/documentation/other/shared_memory.html for more on this. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] some questions
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:57:56AM +0200, Udo Weber wrote: 2. Since a long time (I don't know anymore when this was changed) I missed from the KDE-desktop the possibility to create a new icon (when I press the right mousebutton). Maybe I can modify the mousemenu but I think this should be a standard procedure for all users. Is there any other way to create a new icon execept a new folder ? You should have .kdelnk files under ~/Desktop/Templates. Those provide templates, automatically used to fill in the "New" menu. Did you remove those files ? If you don't want that icon on the desktop, you can move the Templates folder somewhere else, but then you need to edit kfmrc manually, as explained in http://www.kde.org/documentation/faq/kdefaq-6.html#ss6.14 What the FAQ forgets to mention is that you need to kill kfm or log out of KDE before doing so. (KDE 2 uses ~/.kde/share/templates so this problem doesn't exist anymore) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Horribly-bloated memory usage?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:10:31PM +0200, David Odin wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 09:05:51PM -0400, Scott Balmos wrote: Good evening everyone, While this may seem a rather odd question... It seems alarming to me that my system (running 7.1 Beta 2) loves to idle around 185 megs when everything's all and done loaded up. That's with MySQL, Apache, blah blah blah... loaded, and X alone chewing 60 megs. Does this seem even *REMOTELY* possible? I imagine it might, with all the binaries probably having debugging symbols in them. On a tangent to that question, what part of the filesystem is it *NOT* safe to use "strip" on? If it is the debugging symbols that are the problem, then I'd might as well strip them out save for KDE 2. :) Ahem. Debugging symbols are used... by a debugger only. There are NEVER loaded into memory. Interesting... you mean that compiling with debugging symbols only takes more space on the hard disk, but doesn't use more memory ? Never realised that. (Well it also takes more time to compile the stuff, I guess). -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] file association
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 03:29:07PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would probably be the problem; I don't have the last part in my /usr/lib/menu/kmp3 file (the part that says kde_mimetype=.) Has that been changed in more recent packages? Or do I just need to edit the file myself? The player works fine, and sound is configured correctly, that is everything seems to be working (however, I don't have a folder /usr/share/sndconfig on my system). Yep, we changed that about one week ago. You can edit the file by yourself and launch "update-menus", if you don't want to d/l the new package. forgot: and logout of KDE, re-login, at that time KDE will parse all the mimetypes to build up its auto-association. Logout ? Not when you can simply do "Rescan bindings" in kfm, which does the same. It's somewhere in the Edit menu IIRC. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] DMPS
Maybe it hasn't been converted to the new 'menu' thing ? Do you have a /usr/share/applnk/Settings/Desktop/kcmdpms.kdelnk ? If yes, what does it contain ? On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:48:42AM -0700, nick wrote: Yep. David Faure wrote: Do you have kdpms installed ? On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:25:43PM -0700, nick wrote: Whoops I ment that the DMPS area isn't showing up in the K-control panel. I just installed cooker on a fresh system today. Everything is pretty good, but I have noticed that the DHCP area in the K-control panel is missing. Is this happening to anyone else? -- Nick Webb ITS Lab Software University of Idaho http://www.uidaho.edu/~webb3172 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today -- Nick Webb ITS Lab Software University of Idaho http://www.uidaho.edu/~webb3172 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] ark and tar in kde bugs
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 07:01:04AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In LM6.1 when using KDE if you clicked on a tar file it opened it properly. Since then in LM7 and LM7.1b it opens up but has garbage directories only. What happened to this? The format of the output of the 'tar' program changed in between, breaking kfm. A patch for kfm is available, I sent it on an internal mailing-list, but it hasn't been applied apparently :((( -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] DMPS
Do you have kdpms installed ? On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 09:25:43PM -0700, nick wrote: Whoops I ment that the DMPS area isn't showing up in the K-control panel. I just installed cooker on a fresh system today. Everything is pretty good, but I have noticed that the DHCP area in the K-control panel is missing. Is this happening to anyone else? -- Nick Webb ITS Lab Software University of Idaho http://www.uidaho.edu/~webb3172 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] ark and tar in kde bugs
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:07:40PM +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 07:01:04AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In LM6.1 when using KDE if you clicked on a tar file it opened it properly. Since then in LM7 and LM7.1b it opens up but has garbage directories only. What happened to this? The format of the output of the 'tar' program changed in between, breaking kfm. A patch for kfm is available, I sent it on an internal mailing-list, but it hasn't been applied apparently :((( kdebase.spec : Patch108: kdebase-1.1-tar.patch.bz2 [..] %patch108 -p0 this one ? : Yes ! Thanks ! Didn't know it was in, since I got no answer ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Beta 7.1 Kvt core dumps
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:52:27PM -0700, Bovy, Steve wrote: Beta 7.1 Kvt core dumps It will be removed from 7.1. konsole is better anyway. -- David FAURE, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 2
Re: [Cooker] Desktop links
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:39:44PM -0700, Tim McKenzie wrote: I'm sure someone has probably pointed something this simple out... but hey I thought I'd report it anyways... I miss the option to add links to the KDE desktop by right clicking and then choosing new. It's not a major feature but it was nice to have. Hmm ? It's there... I don't understand what the problem is. What kind of link are you trying to create? For links to URLs, local directories or files, etc., simply use the "URL" template. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Re: qt 2.1.0
On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 04:55:04PM -0400, Christopher Molnar wrote: I have uploaded a fix: QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2/include There's a mistake here, right ? QTDIR is aimed to be used as QTDIR/include and QTDIR/lib. I doubt you put stuff under /usr/lib/qt2/include/include ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Opps...problems with KDE Control Panel.
This is related to the K-menu breakages. The control center relies on /usr/share/applnk/Settings On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 03:08:30PM -0700, Harry Miktarian wrote: Oops...sorry about the previous incomplete message...hit send on accident. Anyway... Since upgrading to the latest KDE packages all of the modules in KDE Control Center have disappeared! I thought maybe I goofed something but, A friend told me that the exact same thing happened to him (except he was left with the laptop module). Is this a known problem? Is there a fix? -- Harry J. Miktarian ResNet Manager Housing Residential Services San Francisco State University (415)338-3850 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] qt 2.1
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:10:56PM -0400, David Walluck wrote: Can someone please answer us as to why cooker still has qt 2.0 RPMS? licq has been broken since before 7.0, and I don't call all the problems I was having "working on my box" but as soon as I upgraded to qt21 in contrib, and add --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt-2.1.0/lib to the licq spec all the problems disappeared aside from the uual licq bugs as it is quite a buggy program. I made the qt21 RPMS, but obviously didn't remove the 2.0 ones not knowing which apps needed them. If licq works find with 2.1 and if it's the only package that needs 2.0, I definitely agree about removing 2.0. But 2.1 isn't released yet... -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] qt 2.1 rpms
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 10:53:11PM -0500, Lord And Master;) wrote: the contrib rpms work well except they need to add the lib dir to the ld.so.conf so that they are found in the lib path:) Right. I didn't do that for KDE 2, since all KDE binaries use -rpath, which means they are able to find the libs by themselves, without hacking ld.so.conf. Perhaps licq should do the same ? -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: RE: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 02:25:03PM +0800, geoffrey lee wrote: Yo! you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure could tell us more precisely ;) Gael, i think kde support is only the header files and static libraries...so i don't think you need htat to run kde stuff. No, he's right, some parts of KDE require kdesupport, depending on the libs shipped with the distro (kdesupport is only 3rd party libs). Especially kdenetwork needs it, etc. But not koffice, that's why there is no kdesupport2 in cooker ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 06:09:57PM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: David, I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) Installed KOffice here too. Applications start, but they all crash (not only kspread, but since you asked for it:) when I try to open an existing document or save a new one. Error message: kurl (kdecore): Error in parsing "Root Directory: /" /usr/bin/kspread.sh: line 3: 2753 Segmentation fault kspread Got a similar report. :( Try adding a line with "kbuildsycoca" after "kdeinit +kded" in /opt/kde2/bin/kde2 and starting the app again from the K menu. Looks like I'll have to fix that. It looks real nice otherwise. I like the inclusion of the extra kcalc. Just noticing that the buttons of the three left columns don't display the text entirely. The bottom is cut which makes them hard to read. In kspread ? Which columns ? A, B, C ? ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Stefan Siegel wrote: Gael Duval wrote: Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. OK, here a kspread-bug: Sorry it is not 100% reproducable, but in 1 of 3 times: * Try to open a ".xls" file with kspread. * work a little bit with the spredasheet * Try to open a ".ksp" file = Error Requester "Could not import file of type application/x-kspread" And it works if opening that ksp file directly ? If you try after running kspread.sh from a terminal, is there anything interesting in the output ? How could kpresenter be unable to open its own files ??? It's called kspread, not kpresenter ;-) I doubt I'll be able to reproduce that. Perhaps you could send me the files that do this ? -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 12:24:38AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: David Walluck a écrit : On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: I don't see what would prevent you to test/install the above koffice packages if you don't install KDE1! If I misunderstood please _either_: - bash on me - re-explain differently It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure could tell us more precisely ;) Well, those packages are meant to run on KDE-1, so they don't include kdebase2, kdenetwork2, etc. If you want to test KDE-2.x, instead of using those packages, I would recommend using those available on http://www.nebsllc.com instead. Don't mix them - this stuff evolves quickly, so the dates of all packages have to match exactly. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 05:41:37PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Gael Duval wrote: It was my fault for not explaining clearly. I meant that is does require kdelibs 2 and qt 2.1 (beta). I know that you do not need kdebase to use it, but I figure if I am going to have to download kdelibs and qt (pretty big for me), that I would download kdebse2, but only if I could use it in place of KDE 1, and that's what I wanted to know. you need kdebase2 at least (and maybe kdesupport) - maybe David Faure could tell us more precisely ;) I've tested the whole new KDE2 recently and it's usable. Not 100% stable, usable. Yes, but the question remains. Can I replace (e.g. uninstall) KDE 1 and install just KDE 2 in Cooker at this point and have things be happy? They may require locating to add more standard location of /usr or maybe some symlinks for compatibility, I don't know. As you said, David probably knows best :) Here I am ;-) No, I wouldn't recommend to get rid of KDE 1 if you use cooker's rpms (of any KDE-1 application that is not part of the standard packages). But if you download the whole lot of KDE-2 packages from www.nebsllc.com, you can use it as your every day desktop (like I do). Note that all KDE-2 packages (mine and nebsllc's) use /opt/kde2, so using both KDEs is no problem. See http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for how to set up KDE 1 and KDE 2 for the same user (you can run apps of one from the other, and you can even select in kdm which one to use at login time). -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] KOffice packages
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:59:32AM +0200, David Odin (aka DindinX) wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 11:22:29PM +0200, Gael Duval wrote: Hello, by the way, did some of you install the new Koffice packages just made by David Faure? Those are really good pieces of software, you can include a kspread table under kword etc. If you can test those packages and report bugs to the KOffice team (and especially to David Faure), this will speed up the development of Koffice and maybe we can put it in Mandrake 7.1. Ok. I've just downloaded and install it. Here's my first impressions: - It really looks like a complete suite, good, - Good overall works, :) - I don't like the widget set, but everybody knows that :) (I guess it is themable, isn't it? so this isn't a big deal...) Yes, it is themed. But without kdebase2, you have no GUI for choosing the theme ;-) You can still try from the command line though. source /opt/kde2/bin/kde2 cd /opt/kde2/share/apps/kstyle/themes list the files in that directory, pick your theme, and then settheme $PWD/themename.rc Hmm, seems you need to log off and back in, though. (Which is not necessary when using the control center) - In KWord: - If you're on the last Tab of a line and you press the 'Tab' key, the cursor is moved on the first Tab of the next line when I expected it to go to the beginning of the next line. - The use of Tab with Enumerated list make Kword segfault. I know, it is not something we're supposed to use every day but it shouldn't SegFault. Forwarded to the KWord author. I've not gone any further for now. I would be more interested in kspread reports actually ;-) Also, have a look at kpresenter if you have 5 minutes - this one is really good, I've been using it for 10 months now. David Faure, please don't take these as criticisms but merely as bug reports. Sure, no problem at all ;-) They are bug reports ;-) Koffice looks great and is a great project, even if I'm a GTK-geek :) I know ;-) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] xv-3.10a-5mdk
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 10:10:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop sending me emails, fini, no more, cancel, stop spaming me. Will report you to AOL and have tried to stop this before. You do not listen, care or respond. If it continues our law firm will take you to court. We are Texas attorneys and do not apprecaite your bullying tactics. regards. This is a mailing-list. Just un-subscribe from it. (mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "UNSUB cooker" in the subject, from memory) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] cooker and licq
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:28:07PM -0600, Lord And Master;) wrote: Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Lord And Master;)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what problems maybe I can help? the /usr/lib/libqt.so stuff, configure of licq search (via nm) the symbols of qt2 but /usr/lib/libqt.so come from qt1.4 by default on mandrake (this should be a AUTOMAKE fix). -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com In Travel --Chmouel with the qt2.1 libs i'm using from contrib (updated to beta 2 version though) everything is placed in /usr/lib/qt2.1/* and that works quite well because it auto maticly finds them in the latest version's of licq. no automake required just ./configure and done. I have gone round and round with the author with the /lib/libqt stuff and he has refused to change it to search for libqt.2 so I simply placed everything in /usr/lib/qt2.1 and tell it qt base is in /usr/lib/qt2.1 (although with 80 you don't have to do that either) and everything works flawlessly. no mess no fuss:) unless we plan on getting rid of qt 1.4 i don't see this problem going away to easily with haveing the files in the same dir. I'm updating qt2.1 to beta3 (for koffice). Should I use /usr/lib/qt2.1 then ? Do you really mean /usr/lib/qt2.1/libqt.so.2.1.0 ? Sounds like a very good idea, since /usr/lib/libqt.so.2 is already used for 2.0 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Change Log
On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 09:59:27AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: David Faure wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:27:35AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: I have been using ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ Unfortunately, that site will not accept kfm as a browser. Really ? Sounds like a bug to me... What does kfm print in the terminal (started from there) ? You shold see FTP commands there, and probably an error message... If I type 'kfm' in a terminal window, I get 'KFM is already running' (You should know that!). I meant, type killall kfm first, of course. Never mind, it's fixed now. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Change Log
On Thu, Mar 02, 2000 at 06:07:35PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: David Faure wrote: Fixed in konqueror. Meaning in KDE 1.2? KDE 1.2 doesn't exist. There was 1.1, 1.1.1 and 1.1.2, and now all the development happens in preparation for 2.0, with some early alpha releases, 1.89 (Krash) and soon 1.90. kfm exists up to 1.1.2, konqueror replaced it in 1.89 -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] ENOUGH $#@%$ SPAM ALREADY!! (Was: Re: Extra $$ 4 New Millenium!! $50,000+)
On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 01:42:43PM -0600, Sergio P. Korlowsky wrote: [unreadable html only] Very interesting. Change your mailer configuration if you expect your mails to be read. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Change Log
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:10:52AM -0900, WH Bouterse wrote: David Faure wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:27:35AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: I have been using ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ Unfortunately, that site will not accept kfm as a browser. Really ? Sounds like a bug to me... What does kfm print in the terminal (started from there) ? You shold see FTP commands there, and probably an error message... I tried both kfm and konqueror. They both ended up going there and bringing up a blank screen. The terminal window message was... kio_ftp: Starting of list was ok kio_ftp: = COMPLETED LIST Ah, found what is happening. The listing is in a non-standard format. drwx--x--x 8 11958192 Nov 16 16:08 .incoming d--x--x--x 3 1 96 Jul 23 1997 bin d--x--x--x 2 1 8192 Mar 1 07:49 lib [...] drwxrwxr-x 23 330 8192 Nov 8 10:54 pub d--x--x--x 2 1 96 Aug 11 1999 usr -rw-r--r-- 1 1558 Aug 12 1999 welcome.msg Note that the group is missing. A normal listing looks like drwxr-xr-x 14 dfaure users4096 Feb 28 19:53 www There is one more field... Netscape parses it correctly ? Ok, sounds like I should make konqueror handle it then :-)) (Usually my position was: this is a bug in the FTP server. But it seems that there are quite some like this one...) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Change Log
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:10:52AM -0900, WH Bouterse wrote: David Faure wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 11:27:35AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: I have been using ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ Unfortunately, that site will not accept kfm as a browser. Really ? Sounds like a bug to me... What does kfm print in the terminal (started from there) ? You shold see FTP commands there, and probably an error message... I tried both kfm and konqueror. They both ended up going there and bringing up a blank screen. The terminal window message was... [...] Fixed in konqueror. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
RE: [Cooker]
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 03:23:03PM +0800, geoffrey lee wrote: kvirc has been taken off kdenetwork. well , hmm...still it's not right to see mdk with no Kvirc client.. Yes, kirc was found far too nonstable to be put in the release. -- Warly You're (both) mixing up 3 (three!) IRC clients here. kdenetwork comes with _ksirc_, which is indeed ... not the best one. There is _kirc_, which I don't know anything about. And there is _kvirc_, which is very good but not part of kdenetwork, even though I wish it would be. But they want separate releases. I think Mandrake could/should ship kvirc (and/or kirc if this one is good as well). -- David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems
RE: [Cooker] KDE Sound and Gnome
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, David Faure wrote: On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, Michael Gallagher wrote: Where do I find desktopcfg or info on maudio? desktopcfg is on the cdrom if you don't have it installed (otherwise the name and command are the same ;) and for maudio and kaudioserver unless someone knows offhand, or one of our kde friends pops in with an answer, on one of the kde mailing lists :/ maudio and kaudioserver are part of any KDE installation, since they are part of kdelibs. (this is what i get for not being specific) David is it posible to get them to _mix_ sounds instead of queueing them, Not in KDE-1.x This is being worked on for KDE-2.0, in what is called "arts". I am by far no expert though. The author and expert is Stefan Westerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]. and if not posible by internal means what about running it with esound and it's helper apps? No idea. -- David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems
Re: [Cooker] Opening my /mnt directory within a kde folder freezes entire system
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 02:32:54AM -0800, Roger wrote: going to my /mnt directory within a kde folder freezes entire system. forget "kill" etconly way now is to left click and maybe run ktop, if it isn't already open, forget it. opened up ktop prior going to this dir. killed teh task but was only able to left click execute shutdown now -r seems to be the only way to unfreeze system. seems to be an error with this drive/fs?? Seems to be an awful kfm bug. I keep receiving reports about it (I'm the maintainer) but I still can't figure out where this comes from, nor reproduce (no VFAT partition - and a lot of people have one and don't have the problem anyway). Do you have conv=auto or conv=text in /etc/fstab ? Is there anything logged in /var/log/messages when this happens ? It seems this is related to .directory files. Do you have one in /mnt/* ? Is it a normal one ? An empty one ? A directory (!) ? If somebody could also run kfm in gdb and give me a backtrace that would be great. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Opening my /mnt directory within a kde folder freezes entire system
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 08:57:36AM -0800, Roger wrote: ok. have attaxched my fstab (gee, if it helps). yes. teh ".directory appeared w/i the dos partitions so a naturally deleted them. including verifing teh del process once i was advised about it. /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=auto 0 0 Well, here you go. "conv=auto" This is a nasty parameter to set. Read "man mount". " Programs that do computed lseeks won't like in-ker nel text conversion. Several people have had their data ruined by this translation. Beware!" You've been warned. And you can estimate to be lucky, the man page tells about losses of data ! I guess it confuses kfm - ok, it shouldn't, but kfm is out already and its rewrite (konqueror) doesn't do it, so it's sort of already fixed. Why is conv=auto set ? Is this a Mandrake default ? (Yeah, I should now, but I don't !) -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] Problem with kfm/vfat confirmed...
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 01:43:27PM -0600, Guy T. Rice wrote: I had previously reported being unable to duplicate the reported freezing problem with kfm and vfat partitions when a ".directory" file is created. However, after reading some of the recent messages posted here, I tried again, this time after unmounting my windows partition and remounting it using the "conv=auto" option. Sure enough, kfm freezes up bad! Oddly enough, if you then kill kfm, unmount the partition, and remount it using sane parameters, it works fine, even if you leave the ".directory" file with all the extra Ctrl-M characters in it! So it's not the having of the extra Ctrl-M's in the file that causes kfm to freeze, it's somehow related to the conversion process itself. This is not odd. Ctrl-M doesn't confuse kfm. What confuses it is this conversion itself, which does strange things while kfm is opening the file and moving into it (e.g. it lies on the number of bytes in the file). In any case, get the "conv=auto" out of your mount options, and the problem disappears. Good. -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
RE: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] aspell-.28.3-1mdk
"Brian J. Murrell" wrote: from the quill of Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] on scroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: aspell Distribution: Mandrake Version : .28.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Jan 27 09:31:06 2000 Aspell is an Open Source spell checker designed to eventually replace aspell. ^^--- should be "ispell"? Its main feature is that it does a much better job of coming up with possible suggestions than aspell does. In fact recent tests shows ^^--- ditto that it even b. http://aspell.sourceforge.net/ -- lenny Nevertheless, aspell is probably not designed to replace aspell ! Re-read the post :-) -- David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems
RE: [Cooker] kdebase2-1.80 and 1.1.2
Working with Cooker and Contribs; A reboot has given me a working version of kde2 and koffice and konquerer. Everything is not totally spiffo of course but I can access the basic functions though some icons are missing due to who knows what. All in all I am impresed, especially not being a kde proponent in the past! :-) An interesting situation has occurred however. Logging in as a user on the machine in question I bring up kde2. Logging in from remote terminal I bring up kde1 with previous configured desktop etc, Is there a way to explain this to me and can this happen on a regular basis. I can see its usefullness when individuals make the transition. I'm not sure understand you. This is not intentionnal from KDE, it's just that it happens to be configured this way on your machine it seems. I am using the approach of upgrade from L-M 6.0 to upgrade to 6.1 to upgrade to 7.0b to 7.0 and now on to the next cooker batch of rpms. I make many mistakes but learn more each time and can explain things better to those that are interested in moving from M$ based systems to Linux. So to clarify one of my questions; are any provisions being made to enable one to run kde1 and kde2 concurrently? Yes, you can run KDE1 or KDE2 and have both installed on the same machine, you can even start apps of one when inside the other. For people who install from source, I've described how to do this in ftp://mandrakesoft.com/pub/david/kde1-and-kde2.txt All of it might not apply when using RPMS, but you get the idea. -- David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems
RE: [Cooker] Re: vim/ctags problem: tags file not sorted
no problem with me, what program is it ? What program is what? vim? ctags? The source I am trying to jump to tags with? 5.6-1mdk, 3.2-4mdk, ISC dhcp 3.1.current-in-cvs respectively. I am currently building my tags file manually from a tags file that doesn't work with vim. I have not "broken" my manual tags file yet. Let me go test... Found the problem! ctags produces the following in the tags file: LINUX_SLASHPROC_DISCOVERY ./includes/cf/linux.h 106;" d listener ./[...] LITTLE_ENDIAN ./includes/cf/sunos4.h 40;"d Which is indeed not sorted properly. It is, but in a case-sensitive way. Those three lines should be in this order: [...] That's case insensitive... (No idea about your problem though) -- David Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] - KDE developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Cramer Systems
Re: [Cooker] Two persistent kfm bugs
On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 06:06:20PM -0600, Guy T. Rice wrote:
David Faure wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:08:50PM +, Civileme wrote:
The situation is as follows
Any system with linux-mandrake 6.0, 6.1 or 7.0 (Beta 5) And I
don't know about AIR, with a mounted vfat partition accessible
to the logged user in rw mode. AND it DOESN'T MATTER if you
specify dotsOK=No or nodots in the mount or in /etc/fstab
Try this
1. Open the mounted partition's directory in a kfm window.
2. Grab the Templates folder from your kde desktop (any
non-empty folder will do but some won't copy because there are
dotfiles in them {if you have nodots set}) and drag it to the
mounted vfat open window. Select Move or Copy.
Better not move it away :)
3. You will see a message window indicating the file
activity.
4. Kfm will freeze partway through redisplaying the vfat
partition window
5. Kfm will continue to freeze every time you try to open the
window
Go to windows or to a console and look at the folder you
dragged. You will find a .directory file there
System function will return to normal once you delete that
.directory file
Hello, I've had this bug reported a lot of times now,
since I'm the maintainer of kfm, and I still can't figure
how and why this happens.
Since I have no vfat partition, I can't reproduce nor
debug it.
Does your fstab has a 'convert' option for this partition ?
I've heard the created .directory file is empty. Is it true
for you ?
I've also heard about a .directory _directory_ (instead of a file).
But it seems it's not your case.
I'm still very puzzled by this bug. Writing to a vfat partition
worked fine the last time I had a vfat partition.
I do have a vfat partition, so I followed the steps above (using a non-empty
folder from my desktop, but not Templates since I have no such folder on my
desktop) to attempt to duplicate the problem. However, I failed to
duplicate it -- kfm worked perfectly for me. I'm running Mandrake 7.0
(Air), and my vfat partition is mounted thusly:
/dev/hda3 /mnt/windows vfat noexec,uid=99,gid=99,umask=000,quiet
Note, I did not get a ".directory" file in the copied folder, but there
wasn't one in the original, either. So I changed the properties on the
original to display a different background, which sure enough caused a
".directory" file to be created in the original. I tried it again. It
still copied just fine. I can't seem to duplicate the problem here.
Glad to hear that :-)
But it doesn't solve the problem for the ones who have it... :(
--
David FAURE
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.clara.net/faure/
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Re: [Cooker] kdebase2-1.80 and 1.1.2
On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 05:14:11PM -0900, WH Bouterse wrote: Okay one from cooker and one from contribs. Are they both mutually exclusive? I did the --force routine and the old kde seems to be working. With the kde2-libs and koffice -1.80 I had to change the /opt/kde2 directory as I kept getting that strange "can't unpack" error. Upon attempting to run anything of the koffice, I get the 'dcopserver/dcopclient' error. Which error ? Please copy and paste errors. If you don't use "startkde" of KDE-2, make sure you run "dcopserver" and "kded" once, before you start anything. I think that this is what you missed. The more recent dcopserver is started automatically, BTW, this problem won't remain. Even 'konquerer' brout up a window and almost ran but got the 'dcop' and asorted mime-type errors. I did install anything related to kde-1.80 in the cooker/contrib directory This is flailing about in "the dark" so to speak but was just curious to see if the 7.0Cooker hybrid would accept the contrib mdk.rpm's? Did the kmp3-1.0pre3-2 conflict with kmpg-0.5.0a-5 upon rpm'ing ever get straightened out? I still get it? Thanks. William Bouterse Juneau Alaska -- David FAURE [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.clara.net/faure/ KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
