[Cooker] A true Server install
I'd really like to see a server only install. Something that doesn't install any X, KDE, GNOME, etc. Just a good ol console runing server that (take an example from openbsd) is secure by default. Really drives me nuts when I do a server install of Mandrake and it proceeds to install a bunch of stuff I would never put on my server. Then I spend the next hour looking at rpm -qa | more un installing all this stuff. Any chance this may happen in the future. -Jason
Re: [Cooker] A true Server install
Alexander Skwar wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:09:21AM -0800, Jason Jeremias wrote: I'd really like to see a server only install. Something that doesn't install any X, KDE, GNOME, etc. Just a good ol console runing server that (take an example from openbsd) is secure by default. That's Mandrake. Imagine, Mandrake also requires lilo *AND* grub, god knows why. SCNR -cut- Yes it is Mandrake, But maybe Mandrake could be made better by adding such an installation option. I'm sure there are many others who would like to see this. -Jason
Re: [Cooker] A true Server install
Geoffrey Lee wrote: Yo! [...] in a way this is just mandrake, lots of linuces install without a desktop, because they seem to have been distributed with less of a one-size-fits-all approach. to be fair 7.0 was also easy to pull the desktop out and run a server only install. i haven't attempted since, but Of course we have to cater for server install as well, why do you think we have apache and inn and samba etc in the distro .. :-) it's a feature that a small, but still significant minority will probably expect to be possible, without a week of after-install pursuit of dependencies in thousands of trigger files for what just installed -- sounds a hell of a lot more like unbloating a solaris box after it was installed with 'all' to me. bottom line, if you want a minimalist server, linux is an option ,but probably mandrake isn't the best option of the linuxes out there at present, from what i've seen. But Mandrake remains a great desktop bells-and-whistles distro. Well, IMHO you can run a Mandrake as server, absolutely no problem. We aim to make it more user-friendly but that doesn't mean that we dump away the server image. Even if you do a default server install you ould still have to do some massive configuration to make it secure, now think, we have lots of kinds of srever we don't really know what server you want to run, perhaps ypu just want apache, in which case you would probably remove telnet whatever etc ... Question: This list seems primarily focused for employees of Mandrake-Cooker. I would prefer not to bog down this list with long Yes there are mdksoft employees here but a lot of folks here are just volunteers who make bugz report to us ..(for which we are very grateful! :-) -- Geoff Geoff, All i'm asking for is a "Console Server Install" installs only the basics not X, KDE, GNOME, let the user add to the installation, (add inn, openldap, postgres) heck even make them standard if you want. It would be easier for me to un install a few server services then what I have to do now. As for security. When selecting that option turn everything off by default. This might fit in nicely with the current security scripts in 7.1. I would like to see the default have nothing, make me turn it on if I want it. Instead of turning it on by default and then making the user find everything on and turn off the stuff they don't want. In this respect openbsd is superior to all linux distributions. Granted I don't expect Mandrake to become as secure as openbsd over night. But wouldn't it be a good idea to start the process. Mandrake could become the Easiest and the most Secure linux distribution. Just my two cents. -Jason
[Cooker] 7.1 apache/php3/ldap problems
I'm trying to get my LDAP administration program I wrote working under 7.1 Its written in PHP when I do anything I get the following errors in my error_log for apache. httpd: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libldap.so.1: undefined symbol: ber_alloc_t Anyone know how to fix this? Is the RPM bad? Thanks -Jason -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. -Benjamin Franklin
[Cooker] kernel-2.2.16-3mdk
Where's the suport for the SB Live card in the -3 release? -Jason -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. -Benjamin Franklin
[Cooker] 7.1 apache/php3/ldap problems
I'm trying to get my LDAP administration program I wrote working under 7.1 Its written in PHP when I do anything I get the following errors in my error_log for apache. httpd: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libldap.so.1: undefined symbol: ber_alloc_t Anyone know how to fix this? Is the RPM bad? Thanks -Jason -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. -Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] will be Mandrake 7.1-2 distibution ?
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi again, Will be soon Mandrake 7.1-2 distibution ? What for? The 7.0-2 was made because the 7.0 had a big flaw which made it dangerous. Now that many CD's of the 7.1 are being manufactured (because no major flaw was discovered since the beta3) it would be too expensive to fix the last minor problems and re-manufacture the whole batch of CD's. -- Guillaume Cottenceau Guillaume, Well for me the fact that Mandrake won't boot after I install using ReiserFS on my Mylex Raid Controller thats a major flaw. I've installed 7.1 of 5 different machines and ran into a installation problem on each one of them. I think thats enough of a flaw to think about releasing a -2. Judging by the number of bugs with the final submitted on this list there are some problems. I still maintain that 6.1 was the most stable release to come out of Mandrake. just my two cents. -Jason -- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. -Benjamin Franklin
[Cooker] ReiserFS+DAC960
Okay here's the latest. As was the case of Derek, if I compile ReiserFS in static everything work (with DAC960 as a module or static). If I put ReiserFS in as a module it crashes with the NULL pointer error. I'm using 2.2.16 source from the rpm. Is their anything you guys would like me to try or send you to help figure this out? Thanks! -Jason
Re: [Cooker] reiserfs
I've been playing around with an idea about using reiserfs on a Cache appliance. Seeing how reiserfs is so much faster with lots of small files I though it would make a great filesystem for use with Squid. I would be interesting to use the same machine with ext2 vs reiser on a squid bakeoff. Before I spend time testing my theory has anyone else already done this? Want to display the results? BSD systems always kick linux but in the backoff's using squid. I think part of the reason is because of the filesystem. What do you all think? -Jason Civileme wrote: Magnus Holmberg wrote: Is it possible to install Mandrake 7.1 on a / partition with reiserfs. Or do i need to have /boot on ext2 filesystem? I did all partitions except windows, swap, and /boot on reiser. I did /boot on ext2 because checking it is trivial and I had no notion whether the kernel in memory when /boot is read had the reiser fs patch or not. I suppose the Open BIOS project with linux as the BIOS could feature Reiser if someone wanted to be a puritan, and use nothing else. I did not in fact try /boot as Reiserfs on my test system, so I can't say whether it will work. But with an ext2 /boot, Reiser can definitely be used for all the other partitions. It is not backwards compatible with ext2 since the storage method is something like a B-Tree, but ext2 and reiser partitions can coexist. Checking out several partitions totalling 10 Gb of storage (UDMA/33 without optimizations) in less than nine seconds on boot after being stopped in the midst of 40 users with makes in progress (by a hardware reset) is pretty good, in my estimation. Now I am creating and reading, resizing and writing back , many many tiny files to see if I can confuse it long term. So far, its efficiency with bundles of small files seems to be superior to ext2fs. Civileme -- BETA-testing Netscape 6 and its mailer and L-M 7.1 -- Great acts are made up of small deeds. -- Lao Tsu
