Re: [Cooker] 8.2 bug MandrakeUpdate
If you look on CD3, there are two directories in \Mandrake, namely RPMS3 and RPMS4. Perhaps these are subsets of what we would receive in the boxed set? Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 19:01:03 To: Cooker Mandrake Subject: [Cooker] 8.2 bug MandrakeUpdate Fresh install of 8.2In the source list of Mandrake Update there is four CDs listed:disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (cdrom1)disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86) (cdrom2)disc 3 Download Edition Contribution CD (x86) (cdrom3)disc 3 Download Edition Contribution CD (x86) (cdrom4)How come the last two are disc 3 but cdrom3 and cdrom4 even if there areonly three CDs?Trying to install a package (evolution-pilot) I am asked to insert the"disc 3 Download Edition Contribution CD (x86) (cdrom3)" even if it isthe one inserted in the cd drive (is the cd identified as cdrom4?).I am beginning to think that the 8.2 version was rushed out before beingready. That kind of bug should have been removed long ago and does nothelp Mandrake to be accepted in the entreprises. That withoutmentinoning that IBM Linux products (like Domino, WebSpehre, DB2) areonly recommended for RedHat, Caldera or SuSE but not for Mandrake.-- Luc RoseberryConsultant Tivoli certifié / Certified Tivoli ConsultantFacilité Informatique Canada . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake way of life
Warly, Thanks for clarifying this. It should have been blindingly obvious to anyone with any experience in software production (myself included) that distribution and so on depends on fixed dates communicated well in advance. In that regard, any development, open source or proprietary, has to deal with the realities of the market. Of course we need deadlines; and nobody (should) doubt the level of effort that's going into getting 8.2 out the door. Perhaps what ought to be looked at for 9.0 is not so much a reworking of the development model, but, rather, a more conspicuous and complete articulation of it. I suspect that many of the people commenting on various aspects of the distro have development experience limited to either commercial development or, at best, single, smaller Open Source projects that have greater immediate control over their own schedule. There is a level of assumption present, fed by comments from the public face of Mandrake (you) like "No final until all bugs are squashed ;)" -- that leads people to lose sight of the fact that Mandrake is, in fact, a commercial venture that has to ship product (8.2) on or very closely about a fixed date in order to keep food on the table. When the schedule is fixed, stakeholders (e.g., Cooker folk, testers) need to know. When outside people are testing, it helps to have some idea what priorities are, and those are expected to get tighter as we progress from Beta 1 through Beta N to RC1 to RC M. It is my impression that what has raised a lot of people's blood pressure on the list is not konwing what the real priorities and selection criteria are. If we do indeed have a fixed date, a (relatively) fixed amount of resources that we can allocate to fixing problems, and a non-fixed feature/defect matrix, it's obvious that features are not going to ship and/or defects are not going to get fixed before the ship date. That's life in commercial development; anybody who says "But WhizBang-0.9.9 just shipped - can we include that too?" - is cordially invited to patch the distro with WB, build and fully regression-test the entire distro, and describe what other changes ripple out - without affecting others' work or delivery schedules. It can't be done, folks - what CAN be done is better communication. Ship dates should be articulated. Defect-classification and -prioritization should be communicated, probably through this list and/or Mandrake Expert. It would be nice to see basic statistics like defect open and close counts and rates, mean time to repair for various categories and priorities of defects, and so on. There's no obvious communication of prioritization or severity at all in Mandrake Expert - THAT needs to be fixed for 9.0, and all this is basic statistics that any self-respecting defect- or problem-reporting system should handle out of the box. Mandrake has a great resource here - the great volunteer army of testers and users willing to test and poke and prod the software on a far greater variety of systems and configurations than Mandrake could ever have direct control of; but it will take some improvements in communication and process to make truly effective use of them. If we are to make Linux a more credible alternative to Windows - and Mandrake the preeminent Linux on the desktop. How can we help? Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 01:12:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Mandrake way of life Mandrake Linux is based on a fixed date releasing due to marketconstraints (distributor/supplier schedules). As a consequence therelease date was scheduled 3 months ago. On this date we have a very little margin of 2 or 3 days, but not more.So the datum is: "release date is March the 15th".Now we need to do it in this timeframe (and we are the 17th), andwe have no other choice.In a few days 8.2 updates will be released, and them you will havethe real stable and polished distro you want.Debian has no real realease date, as a consequence doing a stablerelease is just a piece of cake, anybody can do it.Maybe our model is not
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake behaviour
I agree (as I said in a post a few weeks ago). Ease-of-use guidelines for decades have recommended that all information accessible in one view be accessible in the others - certainly not necessarily by default, but accessible, and several projects I've worked on have listed that explicitlay as an exit criterion (we had to prove that all the info was there in all views or we couldn't ship). I'm not saying that Mandrake has to do that - a day before shipment is a bit late to argue criteria :P I do strongly believe, however, that the fewer opportunities for Mandrake in particular and Linux in general to be labelled a geek's paradise with magic decoder rings needed throughout, the better our chances against The Redmond Entity. Package selection, and the "magic decoder ring"of flat view, is just one of the areas where we're needlessly down on our knees begging to be kicked. And TRE will be more than happy to oblige. Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 04:20:06 To: Mandrake Cooker Subject: Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake behaviour Le dim 17/03/2002 à 13:12, Grimau Lysik'an a écrit : On 17 Mar 2002 12:29:06 +0100 The flat list. Indeed :)Anyway, all packages aren't classified into categories, imho it'd havebeen good if it was.+++Stef. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Mea culpa re message format [was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake way of life]
Yes, I'm sorry for that - this email client I'm locked into at present isn't good about that; it says it's in plain-text mode when it isn't. If I don't remember to turn off plain-text and then turn it back on for each and every message I send, it goes MIME. If anybody knows a good mail scavenger utility, let me know; I'm desperate enough to start hacking IncrediMail's COM interfaces - I want my half-gig of messages back! Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 05:10:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake way of life Could you please stop posting in multipart mthl encoded it's a real pain to deal with. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Ron - keep up the good work. Mandrake folks - ditto, but either let's have a deep freeze or let's get Cooker fixed - you can't deep freeze a wildly moving target. As a quality engineer, I think Ron has a legitimate complaint about the response to his defect report - one of his drives is rendered unusable by rogue modifications to lilo.conf via an action that no reasonable user would expect to modify lilo.conf. IN THE ABSENCE of documented defect classification, life cycle and escalation/resolution policies, and in the absence of documented target-user profiles eliminating users with multiple optical drives, this does sound like a defect that could affect a potentially significant population of users. Personally, I'd be willing to bet that at least one reviewer will be bitten by this - and Mandrake really needs as smooth sailing in the review press as we can possibly get. 8.2 CAN be the best Mandrake ever - if not the best Linux ever. I've been using Mandrake since 7.1 and have NOT been happy with the intervening releases' stability on any of my systems. It's great to have the latest and greatest kernel and packages - and people will put up with a certain amount of fit and finish polishing... but to have what (to the user or reviewer) appear to be casual and obvious inconsistencies is not the way to effectively compete against Red Hat - let alone Windows. Thanks, everybody! Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 15, 2002 03:41:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER! Pixel wrote: - this is much too late, we're in deep freeze Judging by the rate of changes to Cooker, you most certainly are not in any deep freeze. - bug report must give more information to be helpful That is not possible, and not a way out for you. Find the problem fix it. - please choose an appropriate Subject: - this is of course not a show stopper, even if I agree it would be nicer if this kind of bug would be fixed (I tried some upgrades and my fstab was correct after upgrading) me too, over 50 of them for 8.2 so far. You see that 49 is not a sufficient number to uncover all the bugs. The simplest explain is that the partition number is occasionally corrupted (5 changed to 7 in this case) on the earliest /etc/fstab read, but not for the writeback. BTW, thanks for the package only update option. - your messages are much too agressive = i usually don't read your mails Ho hum. I an just honestly reflecting back to you what it is like out here with Cooker so far. That is a fair service. I regret your attitude, but it is field reality, is it not? -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Yes, but "very small changes" are the leading cause of project
failures in my experience dealing with software. People almost
always test the flagrantly obvious big changes - but I know of a
missile-defence test that wrote off a $200-million-plus launch vehicle for
what turned out to be a single typo in a single line of code - on a
project with far tighter formal validation and verification procedures
than I have seen in any civilian software project. Saying something
is "too small to be tested" is the same thing as saying "it doesn't
matter" - and reviewers and corporate evaluators will pick up on that
attitude, and go elsewhere.
I'm trying to resolve my present ethical difficulties in recommending
Mandrake to clients. I think it's a lot of fun - certainly more so
than Red Hat or SuSE ("Have a lot of fun") but I expect to continue
recommending those distributions for servers and desktops for the next
year or so, at the rate that Mandrake is improving. 8.2 is a
near-great release - we're almost back up to the standard set by
7.1. I'd like very very much to believe that that release was not a
fluke; that there can be a Red-Hat-compatible release that uses the best
available mix of packages and value add to ship a killer distro. I
am personally in awe of Warly and Pixel and the rest of the team - I've
been using Linux for years but I'd certainly not take on doing an entire
distro - but if Mandrake is going to try to appeal to the general user
looking to escape the DLL hell that is Windows, and to the corporate IT
group evaluating Linux on the desktop, then you HAVE to ship a world-class
product. "Close" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades; I'd
much prefer this not to blow up in my clients' faces. Or mine.
:)
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16, 2002 07:23:38
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Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586
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Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes: Re "wildly moving target" and "we are in deep freeze",
cooker received 1025 new or changed RPMs in the last 24
hours.AFAIK re-signing packages doesn't imply
re-testing.AFAIK there has been 17 new packages in the last 24
hours, with mainly smallchanges.In fact, there are quite many
uploads because each very small change isuploaded ASAP.
Mandrake 8.2 is plainly still in Alpha test and they are
improperly co-opting us outside users to assist that process,
which should be an internal function. I am looking forward to when
Alpha has been completed and Beta and then Gamma testing can
commence, but regretfully (and foolishly) that has not happened
for any Mandrake release so far.It won't happen. If you want this
kind of slow release, go to Debian. Nooffense to Debian of course, our
time to release/market are quite different(FYI, I have a chroot
'unstable' debian on my box).
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Re: [Cooker] Comments on 8.2RC1
Spit. I thought I had set to ASCII text - can't do anything about the tag ad :( well, this is still a beta mailer in my book, but I've got about 3 GB of mail archives tied up in it now :( the original message was Speaking of printer configuration for CUPS - my Epson Stylus 740C is correctly autodetected, but the driver selection screen always initially selects an 880 insteadwhy? Thanks - and mea maxima culpa (*thwack*) Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: Hoyt Date: Thursday, March 14, 2002 15:50:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Comments on 8.2RC1 On Thursday 14 March 2002 05:33 pm, you wrote: X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1700618) From: "Jeff Dickey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]IncrediMail 2001 might be a cool mail client, but I'm guessing that unless you can turn off the HTML encoding and send to Linux mail lists in plain text, you won't get many (polite) responeses.-- Hoythttp://www.maximumhoyt.comA computer without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [Cooker] Comments on 8.2RC1
Speaking of printer configuration for CUPS - my Epson Stylus 740C is correctly autodetected, but the driver selection screen always initially selects an 880 insteadwhy? Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 observation - auto-install replay failure
To be honest, I don't recallit wasn't visually obvious at the diskdrak screen, nor do I recall any verbiage displayed when making the auto-install floppy to indicate that such action would be required. It seems that the folks most likely to use auto-install would be the typical gotta-be-in-fifty-places-at-once sysadmins; new initiates to Mandrake's auto-install system might well come away with a less-than-uplifting OOB experience. As somebody earlier on the list noted, we aren't competing against sal-si-puedes Windows 95 anymore; we need to assume that the person doing this install may be reasonably intelligent/experienced with PCs in general but is not a member of any particular priesthood, and s/he may well be sceptical-to-hostile towards the whole idea anyway. Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, March 10, 2002 04:52:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Beta 4 observation - auto-install replay failure Hi,Jeff Dickey wrote: After a successful install of 8.2 B4, subsequent HD failure and swapout with an identical drive, tried replaying the auto-install floppy I'd made from the first install. Booted from the floppy, got as far as the disk-partitioning questions, where I got dumped into the partition-selection/mount-point selection screenand couldn't use the keyboard. The mouse worked just fine, but could not get any input field to accept keyboard input. I had to restart the install and, other than the package configuration diskette I had (separately) made on the first install, went through the standard Expert Install from scratch again. Please tell me this is fixed Jeff Dickeydid you click on "Expert mode" in diskdrak, to change the mounts point names using the keyboard?. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[Cooker] RC1 and kernel configuration
Quick background: got sent a link to a module that alleges support for my venerable Intel Create and Share camera, made by Konica. This would be seriously cool; CP/M 2000 doesn't even support it. insmod of the binary spat out several Video-for-Linux unresolved externals; first thought was 'ok, fine; I'll go rebuild the kernel and add VfL support - no biggie'. Except it IS a biggie - since the kernel configuration presented by 'make xconfig' -- or even by 'make mrproper make xconfig' - is SERIOUSLY at variance with the installed kernel. What got me comfortable initially with dinking with kernels in the first place was that when I installed Red Hat (6 2/7.0) on this same box, there were few if any surprises in 'make xconfig'; the configuration presented seemed to match the configuration actually installed closely enough that minor and other tweaks could be made with a high confidence that the new kernel would in fact work as expected. NO SUCH CONFIDENCE exists with the Mandrake 8.2 RC1 configuration. As a test, I exited without saving changes, did a 'make mrproper' just to be 'safe', then went through the whole kernel- and module-build exercise on what should reasonably be expected to match the initially installed kernel - only to lose both sound (ES1371) and ide-scsi on reboot. This might well be deemed something that need not be fixed prior to 8.2 final - but it should be fixed ASAP, else reasonably experienced folks who decided to try Mandrake after Red Hat or Turbolinux or any of the other distros that do this right will go back from whence they came - and tell all their friends and LUGmates precisely why. Mandrake is at or very near what purports to be an 8.2 release; I can't think of another software product I've used recently with anywhere near that high a version number that didn't have near-flawless fit and finish and that is what a great many people, I expect, will be expecting. Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F
[Cooker] Another B4 question
When I installed B4 for the first time, I tried to re-use my Package Selection diskette that I'd made from B3 - and it didn't 'take'I went through the list-view package selection again and hand-rebuilt my package list - which takes over an hour :( can we please have some minor(?) rework to the load-from-floppy package selection handling that would: 1) when package version numbers have changed, select the new version, rather than just ignoring the old one because it doesn't exist; 2) have highly visual indications of new packages that have been added or modified since the last release, possibly with different colors or icons in the tree and list views. Again, echoing my earlier post, care needs to be taken that all packages visible in one view (e.g., List) are visible in the other as well. Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[Cooker] Beta 4 observation - auto-install replay failure
After a successful install of 8.2 B4, subsequent HD failure and swapout with an identical drive, tried replaying the auto-install floppy I'd made from the first install. Booted from the floppy, got as far as the disk-partitioning questions, where I got dumped into the partition-selection/mount-point selection screenand couldn't use the keyboard. The mouse worked just fine, but could not get any input fieldto accept keyboard input. I had to restart the install and, other than the package configuration diskette I had (separately) made on the first install, went through the standard Expert Install from scratch again. Please tell me this is fixed Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [Cooker] Beta-4 observations.
This is getting a bit better than the Dark Side 8.0 days, BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure that everything that's visible in the list-view package selection screen is available in the tree view...even if you have to add another 'Other' or 'Uncommon'subtree of some sort. I was amazed at how many tools, utilities, games, and so on are in the list view but not the tree - where it's much easier to select and unselect categories quickly. This should be a basic check that QA does for *every* shipped beta-or-better build. Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 08, 2002 15:24:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Beta-4 observations. Some minor points about Beta-4...There's no easy way to install everything. Going downthe list of package groupings to install I find when adding some, other packages get removed from the selection. I have to go back and re-select them, thenit works. In particular 'console' causes a number ofother options to become de-selected. 2.6 GB or soreally isn't that much space space these days. Thereshould be an 'install everything' option.At the license agreement, hitting enter rebootsthe machine, which is a little annoying. Presumablythe default key rejects the agreement but this is not obvious because you can't see which of the buttons isthe default. it would be nice for first-time usersif the dlg just stayed there until the user either hit the 'OK' button or the reset switch, or clicked on the 'no' button.On network configuration, after auto-detection youare told which card has been detected and asked if youhave 'another one'. Unfortunately this is ambiguous because you could mean"Do you have a different one"-or-"Do you have an additional (or 2nd) one".It's only clear which of these you mean in thefollowingdialog. I would suggest changing the text to "Do you have a different one?". (ahh the joys of the Englishlanguage :-)).The boot-up sequence indicates that swap is being 'started', but I don't have any swap! Perhaps the message should change if there's been no swap partition created.In the lilo installation options there is an editbox that allows you to enter the (real) amount of RAM on your system. I was fearful of using thisfacility because I had no idea what the units were.Perhaps this could be made clear in the dialog text.The wrong order of magnitude -either way- wouldhave pretty dire consequences on the next reboot.thanks for listening-S.__Do You Yahoo!?Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.com. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[Cooker] Logitech TrackMan Marble [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020307 3:18]
Can anybody tell me how to get my middle button on my TM Marble working as a scroll button, as the current CP/M XP driver lets me use it? It's a very cool feature - but there's insufficient desk space for a "real" mouse. :) Jeff DickeySeven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917Phone: +1 425 885 6280Pager: +1 800 931 4233Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[Cooker] Beta 3 install bugs - X Window configuration
During install of Beta 3 (expert mode, full install) on a Dell system with an Intel 810 video chip, I was presented with a huge array of resolution choices at X configuration time, up to something well above 1600 by 1200. Clicking the highest resolution did not give me a 'Would you like to test this resolution?' dialog - it went straight to 'Would you like to start X when you boot your system?'. It then showed the 'Installation complete' screen. Clicking on the 'Configure X Windows' button on the left side of the screen at that point caused the installer to display a mesage 'An error has occurred. Do you really want to exit the install?'. I wound up completely redoing the install. Issues: - Monitor was never queried for. (On 2 other B3 installs on other systems, it was). - Restarting X configuration fatal. - No confirmation given for bogus resolution choice. Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F
[Cooker] Beta 3 install problem - Epson printer
While installing Beta 3 on a Dell system with an Epson Stylus Color 740 printer attached, the printer was initially detected correctly on lp0. However, the driver selection screen showed options for an ESC 860 instead.. .someone just flipping through accepting defaults at that stage (since this worked fine in B2) would have a major misconfiguration. Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F
[Cooker] Beta 3 install issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Installing on an Asus motherboard with SiS 620 video chip onboard, things went mostly pretty well. Thanks to the folks who recommended killing the mysqld processes when software package installation is complete, so CDs can be changed - got bit by that a couple of times. One seriously irritating problem immediately visible on restart - with the SiS 620, in either regular or non-fb mode, there are two horizontal white lines being drawn below and to the right of the cursor. When booting linux-nonfb', the lines sometimes disappear for a few seconds - usually after the mouse is clicked on a GNOME-based app or dialog. (We strongly prefer KDE as a desktop). The problem appears in all resolutions and color depths from 640x480 at 256 colors on up to 1024x768 at 32-bit. Any ideas on how to fix this? Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQEVAwUBPHg+gllBM+VEY0BbAQHliwf/SrcamdyjW8cB4t6ANJUgST1Vw2WuDZDs haQCnHAsAbzD4UzvE5RQ25HF686kpgeyH/dpAkWNgYoGcu8itCzQAW9MbevIXEzR Tk2ZjBnTc15SquO8UUIzg4G6RbZdMmztM4WQbLu1V8qHikN1yO8WhqiDxyaMcNdJ cpOcCz2WU9LIrrX4UE3AOCftpA78nPMU7Umalh5bFgGgTmG9kFV6HaJ/RFTsrBUt T2vV+9iS0g/2Wi9pxtoGlpPa0G17MWXWYer9zFleHluydCzzIcXhUbVTk1ZNlCoB Pxw1utJr92rLfx7wR4i253cZZ+CvQPYWvc9OjqyuprX+naVNbEp8wg=N01 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
