Re: New installer ISO
Hi stew, Silly question, but I just want to make sure I get it correctly: this iso is for upgrading from 8.2 to 9.1 not for an install from scratch right? Bye -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Re-installing yaboot from an existing Linux
Stew Benedict wrote: If rescue doesn't do so for you, mount your linux partition under /mnt and then chroot to it, then run ybin. Something like: mount /dev/hda11 /mnt chroot /mnt ybin -v exit umount /mnt reboot You will probably see a complaint about /proc not being mounted. If your OF settings are still intact, you can ignore this. Otherwise you need to mount /proc or manually fix boot-device in OF. If you have a seperate /usr, you'll need to mount it in the chroot. You can also mount /proc in the chroot if you want, something like: mount /proc /proc -t proc (this is from memory, may not be completely correct) Stew Benedict Hi Stew, Thanks to you and Brice Figureau I was able to revive my yaboot partition, the 'chroot' worked out just perfect. ThanX a lot By the way, I think I read in past mails that 9.0 will not be ported to PPC, is that correct? Bye -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re-installing yaboot from an existing Linux
Hi Stew, I have 3 hard drives on my G3. The first one used to have OSX, a bootstrap partition for yaboot and OS9. This drive got really sick (invalid sibling link) and I had to reformat it. The second drive contains MDK 8.2. My question is: how can I re-install yaboot from my still existing MDK distro? I tried the rescue mode with the install CD to launch ybin but a bunch of binaries used by ybin (hfsutils among others) are not found. Then I edited the ybin script to change the PATH variable to the correct one (change /bin into /mnt/bin and so on) but still commands like 'uname' are not found when running ybin. If i remember well, when going throught the install process, one do not have the possibility to jump directly to the final yaboot install step, right? Too bad that would have got me out of trouble because I simply need to reinstall yaboot. Will that be possible in next release? Any idea how I can manage this? ThanX Bye -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Re-installing yaboot from an existing Linux
Stew Benedict wrote: If rescue doesn't do so for you, mount your linux partition under /mnt and then chroot to it, then run ybin. Something like: mount /dev/hda11 /mnt chroot /mnt ybin -v exit umount /mnt reboot You will probably see a complaint about /proc not being mounted. If your OF settings are still intact, you can ignore this. Otherwise you need to mount /proc or manually fix boot-device in OF. If you have a seperate /usr, you'll need to mount it in the chroot. You can also mount /proc in the chroot if you want, something like: mount /proc /proc -t proc (this is from memory, may not be completely correct) Stew Benedict Allright I'll try that this evening and tell you how it went. Thanks a lot -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Install fest
Barry Hertzberg wrote: I'm afraid I don't get it. I actually installed Xpmac and made the changes I posted earlier on my own system. Okay - but you know what you are doing. I'm a beginner. I had to watch someone use Vim to edit. From a neophyte standpoint, having to break in and edit files to make a system work is not a smooth install. Especially for someone who is coming from Mac OS which practically ties your own shoelaces for you. I can't say that I know how to edit this file on my own again. You need to write directions out that break it all down step by step by step in much more basic elements - or edit the installation routine so that it does this for the user. You have directions for the install? For the boot issue? I did not see that on the CD. This could have been my own short sightedness. I looked for a readme file and I found one that listed the past changes over time. I did not see a file called instructions for install or anything like that. Where do i find that file? Yes, you are correct. None of the people I spoke with use Mac at all. The people I know that use Mac want to know why I'm not using OSX. I'd like to wipe things out and try try try again from complete scratch. Can you direct me on how to do this? Shall I use my 9.2 CD to format the drive and wipe it clean of all partitions and try it again? We got X to run last night but when it rebooted all we got was a black screen of death. Nothing on it. At that point I had to pull the plug from the wall and take my imac with me. Thank you, Also, I've probably done hundreds of installs here and haven't hit the bootstrap errors you say we're plagued with. Several people have fallen into the trap of setting up the bootstrap as /boot. If there is something in our documentation that indicates this is to be done, please someone let me know. Starting an install with either a previously created bootstrap of Apple_Free pretty much flows through cleanly, and this is what is recommended in the install docs. Unless your LUG folks are familiar with Linux on PPC, it will probably be a bit foreign to them too. It's just enough different in a few key areas to throw even experienced Linux folks off. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2 -- Barry M. Hertzberg, TTL Wm. Loesche School Information Technology Lab 595 Tomlinson Road Philadelphia, PA 19116 (215) 961-2519 (voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Experience counts only if you learn from it. Expert advice works only if you listen to it. Barry, Let me just tell you that Linux (specially for PPC) has never been straightforward during the install process. What you should know or realise is that platforms handle a load of different hardware and that each machine is a particular case. The open-source community does a constant effort to handle new hardware shipping at high speed and stay tuned with old hardware at the same time. I have been using YellowDog for a few years and came to MDK because everything worked out with 8.2 almost straight after the install while YDL 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 was a nightmare for my machine (a blue/white G3) : no X, no modem, no printing... And don't forget you don't pay for open-source software so these people don't howe you anything. So do not despair, take a long breath when you enter the unix world, read carefully the manuals and appreciate the result...as you say it is not Mac OSX, it's much better. Sincerely Bye -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: 8.2/ppc Supplemental Goodies
Ben Reser wrote: Well I've done some work and now all the 8.2/ppc RPMS that were not included in the ISOs are now available via urpmi/rpmdrake via my mirror. You can add the source by doing: urpmi.addmedia 8.2-ppc-Supplemental http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz If you have a slower internet connection and don't want to fetch the entire 2 MB hdlist file you can use the synthesis file, though you aren't able to see all the info about the packages that way. You can use the synthesis file by using this to add the source instead: urpmi.addmedia 8.2-ppc-Supplemental http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS with ../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz For those that want to get things manually via http, ftp or rysnc the URLs are now as follows: ftp://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS rsync://mirror.brain.org::Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS Please don't abuse this site. By that I mean if you plan on installing things on a bunch of machines at once please download one copy to a local machine and install from there. I'm providing this off my own home computer systems and only have a T1 and pay for the bandwidth out of my own pocket. Also please don't have more than one connection open to the box at a time. Also since I posted the original message under another thread I'm going to point out that the ISO's for 8.0/ppc and 8.2/ppc are both mounted under the Mandrake-ppc tree on the same mirror. The URLs for them are as follows: ftp://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc rsync://mirror.brain.org::Mandrake-ppc Again the above message about abusing the server applies here... Hope everyone likes. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes Hi Ben, I threw a glance a t your supplemental rpms. I can't rsync, just ftp on my machine here. It is not clear to me wether there is only supplemental stuff there or the original iso content plus the supplemental? (looks like the second to me, no?). In this case is there a list of the supplemental files you have added so that we can download only these and not spoil your bandwidth? Bye and thanX -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
mol in 8.2?
Hi there, Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am i right? I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have the mac window opening, i can see the extensions loading, then the mac desktop appears and it stays glued here showing the desktop with no menu and no icons. Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option available somewhere. Should I recompile it?, Bye -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: mol in 8.2?
Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002, Patrick Ladam wrote: Hi there, Doesn't sound like the kernel is compiled with the mol module in 8.2, am i right? I have to run mol with the -a option, it launches up, I have the mac window opening, i can see the extensions loading, then the mac desktop appears and it stays glued here showing the desktop with no menu and no icons. Any idea? Is there an 2.4.18 kernel with mol option available somewhere. Should I recompile it?, It's the other way around. mol-kmods is compiled against the kernel. Oooops... This type of behavior has been discussed quite a bit lately on the mol list, and I've seen it come and go with various kernels and machines. Samuel has done some updates which seem to improve things, but I haven't rolled that work into a new RPM. It looks like I neglected to rebuild kmods after the 18-6mdk-18-6.1mdk, but if you're getting as far as you are I don't think that's the issue. I just tried here at 24, 15, and 16bpp (ati driver in X), and the startup is very slow, much longer than you would expect, and much longer than it was when I had mol running with 2.4.13 at LWE in January. Video response in MacOS is very slow too. I also tried using the fbdev driver at 15bpp, but the startup was about the same. Aside from the slow startup it seems to be working here, with the sheep-net networking able to view my netatalk server etc. I know some folks are running mol successfully, maybe they have some tricks to share. They do. I'll work on that tonight and keep informed. Bye and thanX Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: openoffice?
Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 17 May 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: any word on rpms for openoffice? are there going to be mdk ones or can we just use the yellowdog rpms? mike I wasn't aware there were YDL ones. It builds but doesn't run correctly. I have tested Kevin Hendricks' build and it seems to run fine on 8.2. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc I have the K Hendricks version also with 8.2, have been using it a bit since a few days and it works like a charm as far as I used it... Bye -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Can't get additional IDE drive in 8.2
Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2002, Patrick Ladam wrote: I have an additional 30GB IDE hard drive partitioned in two: -/dev/hdf6 is an Apple HFS partition, I can mount it with no problem under 8.2 -/dev/hdf7 that is an SVR2 partition that I CAN'T get to mount whatever tool I use to partition it (pdisk under MacOS or XFdrake under 8.2) Everytime, mount gives me an error message about this rebel partition like it's not the correct fs... tried a bunch of variation around 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hdf7 /mnt/yap15' with no succes. Silly question - did you mke2fs and create the filesystem after the pdisk/diskdrake activity? Not that silly... what I did in Hdrake was delete-create the Linux Native partition (even did a 'format' after the creation at some point) I supposed that was enough is it not? Yes the diskdrake format is the same as mkfs. You could could try to manually do the same and see if it's some diskdrake anomoly. I'm looking at my /dev/ and it doesn't show any hdf*, but I'm guessing that devfs took care of creating the devices for you? Could you post the output of: pdisk -l /dev/hdf Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Hi again, Well forget it, I finally could get this partition to format and mount, I had to repeat the operation several time thought. Lately here is what I did: 1) delete + recreate the partition as SVR2 under MacOS with pdisk 2) Go back under 8.2, open diskdrake, it is recognized as an ext2 partition but unmountable... 3) Simply did a format with diskdrake at that point and it worked out... What buzzed me is that usually after the first step I could get the additional ext2 partition right away under linux, well no big deal... ThanX -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Can't get additional IDE drive in 8.2
Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2002, Patrick Ladam wrote: Hi there, Installed 8.2 on my G3 BW and I must say it works great (first distro to have everything working right after the install...bye bye YDL...) I have an additional 30GB IDE hard drive partitioned in two: -/dev/hdf6 is an Apple HFS partition, I can mount it with no problem under 8.2 -/dev/hdf7 that is an SVR2 partition that I CAN'T get to mount whatever tool I use to partition it (pdisk under MacOS or XFdrake under 8.2) Everytime, mount gives me an error message about this rebel partition like it's not the correct fs... tried a bunch of variation around 'mount -t ext2 /dev/hdf7 /mnt/yap15' with no succes. Silly question - did you mke2fs and create the filesystem after the pdisk/diskdrake activity? Not that silly... what I did in Hdrake was delete-create the Linux Native partition (even did a 'format' after the creation at some point) I supposed that was enough is it not? This rebel ext2 partition gives me a hard time, does anybody have this type of problem? Any clue? By the way, is there any KDE 3 PPC rpm available for 8.2 yet? What about open-office 1.0 KDE3 rpms are in cooker contrib, but built on and for 8.2. I'm still beating on OpenOffice, but Kevin Hendricks PPC build seems to run fine on 8.2. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Internal SCSI drives not seen by DrakX...
Hi everyone, I have a Blue/White G3 Rev.1 (yosemite) and have been running different linux distros for 2 years (LPPC, YDL...). First, congrats for DrakX which sounds really nice, for the french Kbd too... Thought, I ran through a problem with DrakX (Final Mandrake 8.0 PPC) which was unable to see my internal SCSI drives. Fortunatly I have a third drive that is an IDE and which was recognized and could install Mandrake 8.0 on this guy. Of course the bootloader install did not work as no MacOS partition was seen. I could start Mandrake 8.0 later on using BootX. How come the internal SCSI drives are not seen (YDL 2.0 sees it, LPPC2KQ4 sees it too) by DrakX? Adding the MacOS partition by hand during the bootloader install did not work either... ThanX -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: Internal SCSI drives not seen by DrakX...
Stew Benedict wrote: The SCSI issue may be due to my omitting the aic7xxx driver. Do you know what SCSI card the machine uses? As far as being able to boot MacOS from ofboot, that should not rely at all on the Linux kernel, as the whole process takes place before Linux ever comes into play. Where does MacOS reside and what does Open Firmware show as a boot-device? Stew Benedict Thanx For answering, Well I can check (I am not on my Mac right now) which SCSI card is plugged in and give you the info. Concerning the ofboot, I think the install failed maybe because yaboot could not copy the Mac OS ROM from the syst. folder as the Mac OS drive was not seen. My Mac OS resides on one of the SCSI drives (the original one, as master drive). I'll check also in the OF what is the boot-device and give you the info tomorrow. Talk to you soon -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC Faq: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcm=99441208917647w= -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | NEW e-mail: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
