Re: [Cooker] new DrakX features
On 08 Nov 1999 02:24:53 +0100, Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: happy testing! PS: if you have slow down due to themes, please tell me! Still invastigating the problem... I just finished installing with DrakX. I deleted my /home and / in order to resize them both. I pushed done and rebooted. I then renamed all my partitions: /mnt/dos_C /mnt/dos_D /boot /archive (this was used for install) /swap /home / When it came to formating, I chose ONLY /boot, /home and /. Unfortunately, it formated my Windows partition and I had to re-install. I DID NOT choose my two FAT32 for formatting * step `partitionDisks' finished * starting step `formatPartitions' * formatting device hda1 (type Win98 FAT32) * running: mkdosfs /dev/hda1 -F 32 * formatting device hda9 (type Linux native) * running: mke2fs /dev/hda9 * formatting device hda10 (type Linux swap) * Setting up swapspace on /dev/hda10 version 0, size = 82214912 bytes * mounting all filesystems * mounting /dev/hda9 on /mnt/ as type ext2 * calling mount(/dev/hda9, /mnt/, ext2, 0, ) * mounting /dev/hda6 on /mnt/boot as type ext2 * calling mount(/dev/hda6, /mnt/boot, ext2, 0, ) * mounting /dev/hda8 on /mnt/home as type ext2 * calling mount(/dev/hda8, /mnt/home, ext2, 0, ) * ERROR: Error reading file /mnt/root/auto_inst.cfg.pl.pl at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_any.pm line 405. * step `formatPartitions' finished
[Cooker] DrakX - problems with mouse
HD install from ext2 (live) Just got to enter language and mouse died :( F1 - couldn load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap - getpwuid_r failed due to no such user 0 - shmget failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_graphical.pm line 709 -t.xpm: no such file or directory F3 - error cannot open shell /usr/bin/sh doesn exit at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_any.pm line 74 - error: mouseconfig failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/mouse.pm line 85 This mouse doesn autodetect well with XF86Setup. Any movement will cause it to seize up. (Didn know Tux disliked Bill this much ;) Both following will work with IntelliMouse 1.5A PS/2 generic 2 button PS/2 w/ emulate # Pointer section # ** Section "Pointer" Protocol"PS/2" Device "/dev/psaux" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice #BaudRate 9600 #SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #ChordMiddle EndSection IntelliMouse PS/2 w/o emulate # Pointer section # ** Section "Pointer" Protocol"IMPS/2" Device "/dev/psaux" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice #BaudRate 9600 #SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) #Emulate3Buttons #Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #ChordMiddle EndSection
Re: [Cooker] Good gi_hd DrakX install today
Pixel wrote: Just finished another "beginner" install. I've moved my cooker stuff to new ext2 partition (/archive) I made. Too many problems with using /usr/local or /home as an install partition. They don't get an fstab entry as mentioned before and also problems with ownership. This way, install can look after things better. Maybe the "upgrade" from ext2 partition like this will work now. /boot /home /usr/local /archive /swap / ok, i understand what you mean, you didn't choose the right mouse so that the X configuration test work. That's a way. Only wishing there was another one... I didn't get a chance to do mouse or keyboard. The install skipped right over to the file system install. I could have gone back, but I want to see what the install does if I play a little "dumb". hehehe 2) it skipped keyboard config 3) named my dos partitions dos_C and dos_D. Fstab entries were made, but no mount points. I had to make fstab entry for /usr/local (install path). Maybe add comment here to: "right click on parition to name". New problem with naming mnt points to go with fstab. I just completed the "/mnt/dos" by adding "_C" during install. (Getting close :-) /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos_C vfat defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/dos_D vfat defaults 0 0 [terp@localhost terp]$ ls /mnt DOS_hda1 DOS_hda5 cdrom disk floppy Maybe the install should give dos partitions generic names and mount in /mnt. If people don't like the names they can change them after. It would make it easier to have working desktop icons right at the start. I deleted and changed the sizes of several partitions, rebooted and continued. Maybe "reboot" button for this event instead of "ctrl-alt-delete". i don't understand, it should tell you: ``you'll have to reboot'' (or alike) and then it tells you (when you quit diskdrake) `` you have to reboot'' and it reboots when you click ok. I will be doing some re-arranging again and will let you know. I had tried to "undo" and use "automatic" to experiment. The dos partitions went white and it tried to set up partitions in that area. You have a *tough* job to prevent people from doing stupid things (like me - hehehe). Maybe get some beginners in and watch them as they try to install. Lots of combinations that can go wrong here. Unfortunately, they blame Mandrake for their dumb mistakes :-( 4) don't like the fact that ALL translations of man-pages and ISO were installed. Maybe this can be tagged to selected language? Should have man-pages as default. They're good to have. Just not all languages. planned. i'll do it today! It worked. Thanks. 5) package installations times are off by around 50% extra. Newt install does fairly good job. Maybe comment at bottom should read: "Selected packages are now being installed." without the ". should only take a few minutes" It took about 28 minutes for my install. Install timing was good with this install. yes, i try not to read the help at the bottom. Not my job (how i hate writing docs...) 8-) Easy now. No comments at all ;-) Maybe that's good. Some people don't RTFM until after they've broken things even worse. grin
Re: [Cooker] Adding users with DrakX
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Terrapin wrote: It is a little confusing adding users: Add User Done I filled out the form and said "Done" but it failed to make a user entry. "Done" implies that the job is finished and the info entered previously is correct. Maybe change words to:Accept Done This way, the existing user info would be entered and a new form opened for another user until "Done" pressed. I agree, however i thought "Done" should be changed Add User No more/Continue/Proceed/ The problem here is that the "Add User" does two things. It enters (adds) THIS user's data into the file and it also sets up for an ADDitional user. Because the overall function is called "Add Users" the mind is already thinking "additional" users. There is ambiguity here. "That's all the user's I have to add now. I'll proceed with the installation." This may leave the last user not installed. Maybe: Accept User Done Intuitively: Add User~ + Done~ = Accept User ~ ! Normal calculator is done like this: A + B + C + D = ABCD But, the function requires we do this: A + B + C + D + = ABCD If we do it intuitively, we get error: A + B + C + D = ABC With "Accept User" it becomes: A ! B ! C ! D ! = ABCD "Accept User" tells us we HAVE to push that button so the user info will be entered and prevents ambiguity. It also sets us up nicely for the next user form to appear (until we're "Done"). "Done" is good here because that's exactly what it does. No more/Continue/Proceed/ don't tell us where we're going until we've gone ;-) PS The logic here reminds me of my extensive programming for machine control using Forth. The toughest part was making the software usable for semi-skilled people.
[Cooker] Dependency problems with DrakX
A number of dependencies were not installed. One of them was perl-base. Can someone give me an example of how to run gendepslist? Or is is this done at install time? Note: initscripts also requires perl-base. from depslist: perl 13095261 gdbm glibc tcsh [terp@the_swamp terp]$ rpm -qR perl perl-base ld-linux.so.2 libc.so.6 libcrypt.so.1 libdl.so.2 libm.so.6 libnsl.so.1 libdb.so.3 libgdbm.so.2 /usr/bin/perl libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
[Cooker] Good gi_hd DrakX install today
Tried out the "beginners" hd install from ext2 /usr/local/cooker for the first time. 1) it skipped mouse config (which was good as generic PS/2 w/ emulation does not cause my Intellipoint wheel mouse to die at x configuration). I did have to run mouseconfig after booting into Mandrake. This was not a problem because the mouse worked OK as a two button mouse. 2) it skipped keyboard config 3) named my dos partitions dos_C and dos_D. Fstab entries were made, but no mount points. I had to make fstab entry for /usr/local (install path). Maybe add comment here to: "right click on parition to name". I deleted and changed the sizes of several partitions, rebooted and continued. Maybe "reboot" button for this event instead of "ctrl-alt-delete". 3) chose the 645/2763 package selection without looking at what it would install (a beginner wouldn't understand much of the packages anyway) and this gave me a very good workstation configuration. Just had to add ppp (plus few rpm related fixes) and I was up and running. (wrong ppp for kernel-2.2.x - I commented out alias' in conf.modules as usual) The beginners package selection is going to be confusing. Maybe descriptive levels. Could be in documentation what you get for each level ( very general like newt install) 4) don't like the fact that ALL translations of man-pages and ISO were installed. Maybe this can be tagged to selected language? Should have man-pages as default. They're good to have. Just not all languages. 5) package installations times are off by around 50% extra. Newt install does fairly good job. Maybe comment at bottom should read: "Selected packages are now being installed." without the ". should only take a few minutes" It took about 28 minutes for my install. 6) a few dependencies not installed (separate email) 7) latest initscripts doesn't run kdm so I changed prefdm - link to /usr/bin/kdm 8) work around for installing kdelibs (thanks) 9) first time all the way through using mouse. Looking better and better.
Re: [Cooker] Dependency problems with DrakX
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, you wrote: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A number of dependencies were not installed. One of them was perl-base. Can someone give me an example of how to run gendepslist? Or is is this done at install time? Note: initscripts also requires perl-base. thanks a lot for telling me ,-) changed now! Sorry for doubled post. Having problems with kmail due to using archived backup. (changed and formatted /home) Do you have an example of running gendepslist?
Re: [Cooker] Gi install from hard drive.
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:52:34 -0700, webmedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea how to track this down but netscape doesn't work with the gi install. Everything else seems to work accept that the innitab still has to be changed to kdm before x will bring up a login screen. I even try to run it from a console but it just gives a generic error: I have that. I've asumed it was because I am unable to do a successful x configuration during install. An error occurred running /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator. This is the actual error. I have the same error. I tried loading the compat libraries and re-installing, but the same. On a side note mozilla M10 works pretty good . At least its more stable now.
Re: [Cooker] xdrake install
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: ok, remirrored it Fri. to take home this weekend. got thru the install proccess just fine. on reboot got lots of scrolling interspersed with numbers and x did not start so I went to alt-f2 had same screen full of garbage but when I hit enter it went away and let me log in. I ran setup and redid my X setup. and changes run level to 3. on reboot alt-f1 stiil is full of garbage and won't clear, alt-f2 is full of garbage but clears with enterkey, I log in and startx works fine taking me to KDE. I haven't had time to check out all the usual program yet. Maybe later this afternoon. Very same for me with complete expert hd install from /usr/local/cooker The garbage appears to be an error with the eighth bit from the look of the characters. Boot into runlevel 3. Changing to runlevel 5 only gives me a grey screen Install went good up until accepting the x configuration with the mouse. As soon as I clicked on "yes", I lost the mouse cursor and had to clt-alt-delete out of the install from another virtual terminal. This looks like the old PS/2 versus IMPS/2 mouse problem. I have an Intellimouse wheel mouse model 1.5a PS/2. XF86Config is correct and the mouse works after rebooting. I noticed there are two kernels installed. Hackkernel is the default and I am using it now after having to install ppp package. My /usr/local partition was not entered into fstab. I had to make an entry and mount myself. The new package selection is looking better. I don't get "lost". BTW, the double and single quote keys have to be struck twice while I am writing this email. ' (took 2 hits to make) " (took 2 hits to make)
Re: [Cooker] xdrake install
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote: Terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Install went good up until accepting the x configuration with the mouse. As soon as I clicked on "yes", I lost the mouse cursor and had to clt-alt-delete out of the install from another virtual terminal. This looks like the old PS/2 versus IMPS/2 mouse problem. I have an Intellimouse wheel mouse model 1.5a PS/2. XF86Config is correct and the mouse works after rebooting. i think i'm gonna by one, nice test mouse it seems :) Lots of problems with this mouse. Gnome works good with it now. XF86Setup hates it. imwheel makes it work someplaces and stop other places It works good to reduce wrist motion if you get sore wrists. A smart entrepreneur should come up with a real good mouse with "Linux" and a picture of Tux on it ;-) I noticed there are two kernels installed. Hackkernel is the default and I am using it now after having to install ppp package. how did you achieve to install hackkernel? it's not in the compss! Maybe an undocumented feature? I don know. It just installed. It works but too many non-vj errors so I changed to 2.2 My /usr/local partition was not entered into fstab. I had to make an entry and mount myself. yeah, i must look at this. The new package selection is looking better. I don't get "lost". BTW, the double and single quote keys have to be struck twice while I am writing this email. ' (took 2 hits to make) " (took 2 hits to make) seems like you have dead keys, maybe you have XkbLayout us_intl and it isn't what you want? seems like pablo did some bad things here (cool that bug is not mine ,-) Not dead keys. They work fine in Windows. This started about a week ago. I have 105 standard US keyboard. I use Windows keys to open menu or toggle/change virtual terminals. Another idea! Need Linux keyboard!! ;-)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] NAME: kernel VER: 2.2.13 REL: 20mdk
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:33:36 -0400, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I was wondering -- RedHat has always had the problem where a kernel upgrade via RPM was not complete, ie. I could not do rpm -U kernel*.rpm reboot and get a new kernel. Basically it did not re-run LILO, if I recall correctly, but there may have been other problems too. Does Mandrake have the same problem? Not for me since the last successful Panoramix (DrakX) install. The latest lilo.conf just has "vmlinuz" and the install of a new kernel makes all the proper links. I simply re-boot now without changing anything or running lilo and I have my new kernel. Very simple. But, I always keep a complete working kernel just in case the latest fails.
Re: [Cooker] xdrake install
On 20 Oct 1999 23:09:25 +0200, Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Litwiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hmm. no its not there and not on my mirror either. in the mirror it should be in for example ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16 yes you're totally right, there seems something quite wrong :((( It disappeared from several sites over a week ago. The last I saw was last weekend. I figured you guys had withdrawn it to "revamp and overhaul". the mdkinst directory has left... don't know where it's gone. think i must re-upload. Sorry I was going to take this opportunity to check out the competitions GUI install ;-)
[Cooker] XFree86-SVGA-3.3.5-7mdk works with GD5446
Yay My GD5446 video card works well with GD5446. No more seasick ;-) Xconfigurator now correctly identifies it and makes XF86Config file w/o Options no_bitblt. Thanks.
Re: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 07:33:20 -0700, you wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, you wrote: when you have a signal 11 problem, redo the installation and switch to alt-f2 at the selecting packages step. see % cd /proc % cat meminfo % cat swaps if you have less than 50MB of free space (ram + swap), you won't get to installing packages. In some cases, installing less packages will consume less ram. Same problem here but i have 140 megs of ram on my system but I'll check on next install maybe it doesn't see it all for some reason. If you are doing an install and keeping your /home partition, you can record the debug messages just before the failure by doing: crtl-alt-F2 cat ddebug.log /mnt/home/debug.txt cat /proc/meminfo /mnt/home/meminfo.txt cat /roc/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt I have explore2fs which I run under windows to view linux ext2 files. Here is the link. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Re: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:15:17 -0700, Terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are doing an install and keeping your /home partition, you can record the debug messages just before the failure by doing: crtl-alt-F2 cat ddebug.log /mnt/home/debug.txt cat /proc/meminfo /mnt/home/meminfo.txt cat /roc/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt ooops. the last should be cat/procs/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt arghhh (doing too many things at once) s/b cat /proc/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt I have explore2fs which I run under windows to view linux ext2 files. Here is the link. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Re: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:40:21 -0500, Sergio Korlowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great..! I have hdb with 4.3 gigs for windows itself, and I am installing cooker from my home partition '/home/ftp/pub/cooker' so I can save the information now! thanks for the tip ;-) sk You may have a problem with this. My cooker stuff resides in /usr/local/cooker (on partition /usr/local - hda9) and it is mounted READ ONLY as /tmp/hdimage/cooker so I was not able to write to this partition like I wanted to.
Re: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
On 10 Oct 1999 19:13:31 +0200, Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergio Korlowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: crtl-alt-F2 cat ddebug.log /mnt/home/debug.txt cat /proc/meminfo /mnt/home/meminfo.txt cat /roc/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt in fact this so usefull that ddebug.log is *now* copied to /root/ddebug.log at the end of each step. This is a great enhancement. Thanks for the tip, i should have done it before :-! It will not retain debug info from before partitioning if it fails during partitioning :-( cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] hdlist
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:40:11 -0400, allxsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you but the hdlist on sunsite.se and rpmfind have a different size from the hdlist generated on my PC. Bah :-) Bye Alessandro ah I've had bad results from sunsite.se and stopped using it several months ago. Maybe you can pick another?
[Cooker] Panoramix install work-around
I managed to install with Panoramix by NOT activating the "Go" button in "Choose packages to install" after my selections. I used the "Install system" in the menu and it proceeded. I am having problems with bootdisk and lilo, but will retry with new download tonight.
Re: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
On Sat, 09 Oct 1999, you wrote: Same here. One problem I notice that there is a new mdkinst_stage2.gz but when i try to download I get this Cannot get file `Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.gz', skipping. (550 Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.gz: Permission denied.) You are trying to get it as it is being updated on the remote site. Just wait a few minutes. I've had that happen before.
Re: [Cooker] Panoramix install work-around
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, you wrote: Terrapin wrote: I managed to install with Panoramix by NOT activating the "Go" button in "Choose packages to install" after my selections. I used the "Install system" in the menu and it proceeded. I am having problems with bootdisk and lilo, but will retry with new download tonight. You mean just click on the install system button instead of the Go option? Yes. But Pixel has found the problem and I notice there are fresh uploads. See his post here. You might want to wait for a bit before mirroring again. I'll try that! I am almost done downloading a fresh image. oh..oh... You will have to mirror again ;-)
Re: [Cooker] gi_hd works here now :)
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, you wrote: ok, installing now with no more problem :-)) well, not totally true. Be carefull _not_ to select ghostscript and ghostscript-Both. Or in any case do not ``Go on anyway'' as asked. Otherwise install ordering will *not* be done and bad things are gonna happen :( Don't try to install printer. BAD things happened. The "ghost" came out right on top of the printer section and bit me. It seized up Panoramix. :-( I re-installed w/o printer and was successfull right to x configure when mouse died. currently uploading new version... please wait...
Re: [Cooker] failed gi_hd AND boot.img will not allow hd install
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote: Pixel wrote: terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first error was: Running: insmod serial Running: insmod_/lib/modules/serial.o Error: insmod serial failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 189 you need to have a gi_hd in sync with Mandrake/mdkinst and Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.gz All freshly downloaded (again - 4 times now) and the same failure at the same place. I keep the cooker stuff in /usr/local/cooker/Mandrake on a separate /usr/local partition. if you have, it really should be ok. the problem comes from different versions of kernel and modules. I used a rescue disk and saw that the basic formatting did not erase any files at all. ``basic formatting'' what d'u mean ? I did an "expert install". When it came to the partitioning, I named my partitions but did not change their sizes. I selected / (hda10) and /boot (hda7) for formatting without checking. The drive worked for a few minutes as it formatted. I left /home (hda8) and /usr/local (hda9) untouched. The install failed after choosing my packages (about 600meg). It started the package installation GUI (where you see the packages being installed) and crashed with a signal 11. It turned out my linux was still intact except for the mangled rpm database. The not really formatting has occured several times before with boot.img. I reported it on cooker and someone else had the same thing happen. I just tried a "expert" "upgrade" and found that I could install if I DID NOT click on the "go" button but instead selected "Install system" from the left menu. The upgrade proceeded (11 packages) and I was able to make a boot disk and also lilo. F3: opened rpm database mounting /proc on /mnt/proc, proc, 0, ERROR: mount failed: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 123 rpm database closed The install failed at X configure. The display worked ok (GD5446) but I lost the mouse (IMPS/2) at this time. I used the keyboard to select OK in the x configure. I had to switch to another console and ctr-alt-delete out of install because the program kept jumping back to my unfinished "Choose packages to install" after each selection and I had no mouse to select finish. I rebooted with the new lilo and noticed the "dos" has been changed to "windows" and the wording is different. The boot cleaned up the improperly unmounted drives and went to runlevel 5. At this time I got a grey screen with a working mouse and no Mandrake GUI login. I opened a new console and killed x . Then ran desktopconfig and used startx into kde. When there is a working boot.img, I will try another fresh install with gi_hd. I don't want to use it to install unless I can fix things up with boot.img if it fails. It sure made a mess of my linux. i really am going to test this hd install to see what happens... yeah... I guess you should... I am holding on and waiting to see what happens before trying again ;-) SK
Re: [Cooker] Re: boot.img doesn't support hd install any more
On Sat, 09 Oct 1999, you wrote: Pixel wrote: has somebody tried with helios' boot.img? it should work... I just finished a complete install (including checking for bad blocks partitioning). I used the Mdk6.1 boot.img. 1) cannot make boot disk (Make sure you have a good one before starting) 2) cannot make lilo (make sure you have an available lilo.conf file - I use klilo to make lilo.conf and install boot loader after starting kde) 3) will not boot into Mandrake GUI (you will have to change inittab to runlevel 3 and use startx) 4) to use kppp I had to comment out the following from /etc/conf.modules: #alias tty-ldisc-3ppp_async alias char-major-108 ppp_generic #alias ppp0 ppp_async #alias pppppp_async 5) my system is up and running with the modification of XF86Config as reported before for GD5446 - /etc/X11/XF86Config: # Use Option "no_bitblt" # if you have graphics problems. I'll try it and let you know... ;-)
[Cooker] Problems with initscripts-4.42-4mdk
1) It appears that the Mandrake login GUI has been removed since two versions ago. Is this on purpose or has it been overlooked? 2) the same with .xsession-errors
[Cooker] failed gi_hd AND boot.img will not allow hd install
The failed gi_hd (latest) install left my Mandrake-Linux a mess. It failed while attempting to install the packages (after selecting). Dozens of error messages, just like the previous version. I don't know where to start with the error messages given... The first error was: Running: insmod serial Running: insmod_/lib/modules/serial.o Error: insmod serial failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 189 I used a rescue disk and saw that the basic formatting did not erase any files at all. I was able to floppy boot into a working linux but the rpm data base got screwed up. It shows that I didn't even have a kernel installed. I tried to rebuild the rpm database but this didn't work so I updated with boot.img from Mdk6. I had to remove hundreds of *.rpmorig and other files. Interesting experience with linux. All cleaned up now. "It takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'" hehehe ;-) I'd like to at least run boot.img to clean things up.
Re: [Cooker] Defective icons in mandrake_desk-0.9.4-1mdk
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote: terrapin writes: /usr/share/icons/mandrake-logo-48.xpm and -64.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps/mandrake-logo-48.xpm and -64.xpm Error message: KIcon: There was a QT error loading: This seems to be a problem with KIcon. I can display and read them correctly. I can display all the other icons. It is just these ones that fail. None of my image viewers will open these files. BTW, I was just playing with my desktop and wanted a different icon for "news" and thought the mandrake-logo xpm would be nice. For some reason they were not showing up in the icon selector.
Re: [Cooker] boot.img doesn't support hd install any more
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote: Timothy Litwiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been trying to do a hd install. I mirror cooker about every 6 hr. I hadn't tried for severl weeks but now when I try with the curent boot.img it doesn't even ask if I want a cd or hd install it just asks what cdrom to install from. ( I have 2 cdroms does that mess up the script?) ok as chmouel seems to be quite lazy (!), i've done it. quite a simple, just added option `hd' in the syslinux.cfg currently uploading... latest boot.img error: checking command line: unknown option 'hd' :-(
Re: [Cooker] Re: failed gi_hd
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i really am going to test this hd install to see what happens... well, done with no problem here... sorry :) just tried again and it failed :-( attempting to install from /etc/local/cooker with IDE hd I prefer to use an ext2 file system because of the symlinks I haven't tried a vfat install without symlinks. F1: Gdk_WARNING **: shget failed! at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_ graphical.pm line 585 use of uninitialized value at /usr/bin/perl-install/common.pm line 172 (#1) (also install_any.pm install_steps_graphical.pm my_gtk.pm) install exited abnormally -- recieved signal 11 F3: running: insmod serial running: insmod_/lib/modules/serial.o error: insmod serial failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/modules.pm line 189 failed to open /proc/array/ida0: no such file or directory unknown entry kernel (in compssList) (also libs, multimedia, ect, etc...) unknown install class expert in compssList opened rpm database
Re: [Cooker] Panoramix failed on x configuration
I re-installed cooker with the old installer and installed XF86Setup. It now no longer works at all, no matter what I do. The IMPS/2 mouse is not recognized and causes the mouse cursor to activate the button in the top right corner. I made a bug report 6 weeks ago about this. I think I'm going to put Linux away for a few months and check back in the new year. On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:08:30 -0700, you wrote: Terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also cannot run XF86Setup with a linux 3 boot. File not found. How come the path has not been set? I could fudge this setup to get it to write a good enough XF86Config file. Found out that XF86Setup was not installed. I installed it and got the following error when trying to run it: "Not all of the configuration and application default files are installed. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc is missing"
Re: [Cooker] PPP doesn't work with kernel-2.2.13-9
Good morning... On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:22:29 -0600 (MDT), you wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Terrapin wrote: conf.modules: alias tty-ldisc-3ppp_async alias char-major-108 ppp_generic alias ppp0 ppp_async alias pppppp_async lsmod, says? [root@the_swamp /root]# lsmod Module Size Used by nls_iso8859-1 2052 2 (autoclean) nls_cp437 3548 2 (autoclean) vfat 10652 2 (autoclean) fat31680 2 (autoclean) [vfat] opl3 13448 0 sb 35892 0 uart401 6256 0 [sb] sound 63128 0 [opl3 sb uart401] soundlow 304 0 [sound] soundcore 3524 5 /[sb sound] Error message from running kppp: "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!" Sep 21 07:19:21 the_swamp PAM_pwdb[421]: (kde) session opened for user terp by (uid=0) Sep 21 07:19:58 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-3 Sep 21 07:20:05 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-3 Sep 21 07:20:39 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 Sep 21 07:20:39 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module ppp0 Sep 21 07:20:40 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module tty-ldisc-3 Sep 21 07:20:40 the_swamp pppd[486]: ioctl(TIOCSETD(PPP)): Invalid argument(22) Sep 21 07:20:40 the_swamp pppd[486]: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. If that fails, check t [root@the_swamp /root]# /sbin/modprobe -v ppp can't locate module ppp [root@the_swamp /root]# rpm -q kernel ppp kernel-2.2.13-9mdk ppp-2.3.9-5mdk
Re: [Cooker] PPP doesn't work with kernel-2.2.13-9
If I comment the alias' out in conf.modules, I can use ppp even with the error messages. # alias tty-ldisc-3ppp_async # alias char-major-108 ppp_generic # alias ppp0 ppp_async # alias pppppp_async
[Cooker] PPP doesn't work with kernel-2.2.13-9
I changed back to Helios and it started working again. Says module not installed. John
Re: [Cooker] PPP doesn't work with kernel-2.2.13-9
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, you wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Terrapin wrote: I changed back to Helios and it started working again. Says module not installed. John rpm -q kernel ppp It works with this: kernel-2.2.13-7mdk ppp-2.3.8-1mdk I'm installing
Re: [Cooker] PPP doesn't work with kernel-2.2.13-9
It appears that the problem is caused by having two ppp's installed. I still get an error mesage with the -9 kernel in a pop-up with kppp although I am sending this email with ppp [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -Uvh ppp-2.3.9-4* ppp ## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.91829: line 8: syntax error: unexpected end of file execution of script failed [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -q ppp ppp-2.3.8-1mdk ppp-2.3.9-4mdk [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -e --allmatches ppp [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -Uvh ppp-2.3.9-4* ppp ## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.24887: line 8: syntax error: unexpected end of file execution of script failed [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -q ppp ppp-2.3.9-4mdk [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -q kernel kernel-2.2.13-7mdk I rebooted with kernel-2.2.13-9mdk and got an error message from kppp. "This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel module loader. To solve this problem: *contact your system adminstrator or *install a kernel with PPP support" [terp@the_swamp terp]$ rpm -q kernel ppp kernel-2.2.13-9mdk ppp-2.3.9-4mdk Sep 20 23:01:03 the_swamp PAM_pwdb[421]: (kde) session opened for user terp by (uid=0) Sep 20 23:01:44 the_swamp kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California Sep 20 23:01:45 the_swamp kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling) Sep 20 23:01:45 the_swamp kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Sep 20 23:03:19 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 Sep 20 23:03:19 the_swamp kernel: registered device ppp0 Sep 20 23:03:19 the_swamp pppd[493]: pppd 2.3.9 started by terp, uid 501 Sep 20 23:03:19 the_swamp pppd[493]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 20 23:03:19 the_swamp pppd[493]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Sep 20 23:03:22 the_swamp pppd[493]: Remote message: Login Succeeded Sep 20 23:03:25 the_swamp kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered Sep 20 23:03:25 the_swamp kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered Sep 20 23:03:25 the_swamp pppd[493]: local IP address 207.107.182.36 Sep 20 23:03:25 the_swamp pppd[493]: remote IP address 207.107.182.24 Sep 20 23:05:35 the_swamp pppd[493]: Terminating on signal 15. Sep 20 23:05:36 the_swamp pppd[493]: Connection terminated. Sep 20 23:05:36 the_swamp pppd[493]: Connect time 2.3 minutes. Sep 20 23:05:36 the_swamp pppd[493]: Sent 6402 bytes, received 116106 bytes. Sep 20 23:05:36 the_swamp pppd[493]: Exit.
Re: [Cooker] panoramix
Sounds good. For Mandrake to be successful in attracting the beginners, it must take on the role of "sys admin" in order to get them going. Once they are in the door, they can learn more about the OS if they wish. On 20 Sep 1999 00:03:20 +0200, you wrote: I added quite a lot of features or at least automatic things. So be carefull in beginner mode it's quite simple. For example if it detects lilo or dos on MBR or an empty one, it installs lilo there without asking! The graphic configuration is quite easy too: - detection of pnp monitors - default resolution chosen based upon the monitor size - diskdrake in beginner mode is simplified too (no more `Format', nor `Active', neither `Mount') - test without asking in beginner mode. So now, all you have to do in beginner is wait for the question `Is it ok?' and answear yes and that's it. runlevel 5 by default of course :) Anyway, you can always (or will be able to soon) go back and choose something else. That way, installation is a piece of cake! I'm gonna try a blindfold install soon :) A big question mark button has appeared and will soon give more help. cu Pixel. PS: by the way, diskdrake has now a front-end to rescuept to recover your partition table in case of problem. It is still beta though...
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] NAME: linuxconf VER: 1.16r3.1 REL: 1mdk
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: --=-=-= Name: linuxconf Distribution: Mandrake Version : 1.16r3.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Sep 09 11:52:06 1999 I hope this release was not a mistake. I MUCH prefer this older layout. Those windows popping up all over the place was annoying. Bye for now, John
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] NAME: linuxconf VER: 1.16r3.1 REL: 1mdk
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: --=-=-= Name: linuxconf Distribution: Mandrake Version : 1.16r3.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Thu Sep 09 11:52:06 1999 I sure hope using the older style of GUI is not a mistake. I did not like the newer one with those windows popping up all over the place. It was very annoying. Please keep this style. Thanks, John
[Cassini] Re: [Cooker] ppp 2.3.9-2mdk
On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: Did anyone try ppp 2.3.9-2mdk (from cooker) in Cassini? I need to know if it works for anyone but me. ;) LLaP bero kernel-2.2.13-4 ppp-2.3.9-2 The latest ppp failed to remove my previous so I had to use "--allmatches" [root@the_swamp RPMS]# rpm -Uvh ppp-2.3.9-2* ppp ## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.65327: line 8: syntax error: unexpected end of file execution of script failed [root@the_swamp RPMS]# Using linuxconf: Sep 8 12:17:58 the_swamp ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS1 at 115200 Sep 8 12:17:59 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 .. Sep 8 12:18:37 the_swamp pppd[606]: Serial connection established. Sep 8 12:18:37 the_swamp pppd[606]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 8 12:18:37 the_swamp pppd[606]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Sep 8 12:18:41 the_swamp pppd[606]: Remote message: Login Succeeded ... Sep 8 12:19:09 the_swamp pppd[606]: Exit. Using kppp: Sep 8 12:33:06 the_swamp kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California Sep 8 12:33:06 the_swamp kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling) Sep 8 12:33:06 the_swamp kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Sep 8 12:33:06 the_swamp kernel: registered device ppp0 Sep 8 12:33:43 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 Sep 8 12:33:43 the_swamp pppd[745]: pppd 2.3.9 started by terp, uid 501 Sep 8 12:33:43 the_swamp pppd[745]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 8 12:33:43 the_swamp pppd[745]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Sep 8 12:33:46 the_swamp pppd[745]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
[Cooker] Re: [Cassini] Looking for printtool in KDE menu's
On Tue, 07 Sep 1999, you wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, terrapin wrote: [root@the_swamp terp]# printtool Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server xhost +localhost Thanks. It would be nice to have a more elegant solution as I have to change printer resolutions at times when I'm printing as user. [root@the_swamp terp]# control-panel Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server same here. LLaP bero
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 6.1b
On Mon, 06 Sep 1999, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Gael Duval [EMAIL PROTECTED] we have some problems especially with pppd and lpd - can you all test: ppp-2.3.9-1.mdk New install, including home. Just fired up kppp as user, entered my PAP info and went on line. Seems to be working with ftp, Netscape, kmail OK. What is this error message? modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 There seems to be a delay before logging on. Sep 6 18:17:28 the_swamp kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California Sep 6 18:17:28 the_swamp kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling) Sep 6 18:17:28 the_swamp kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Sep 6 18:17:28 the_swamp kernel: registered device ppp0 Sep 6 18:18:04 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 Sep 6 18:18:04 the_swamp pppd[2432]: pppd 2.3.9 started by terp, uid 501 Sep 6 18:18:04 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Using interface ppp0 Sep 6 18:18:04 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Sep 6 18:18:14 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Remote message: Login Succeeded Sep 6 18:18:14 the_swamp kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered Sep 6 18:18:15 the_swamp kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered Sep 6 18:18:15 the_swamp pppd[2432]: local IP address 207.107.182.49 Sep 6 18:18:15 the_swamp pppd[2432]: remote IP address 207.107.182.24 Sep 6 18:19:14 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Terminating on signal 15. Sep 6 18:19:14 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Connection terminated. Sep 6 18:19:14 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Connect time 1.2 minutes. Sep 6 18:19:14 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Sent 3907 bytes, received 97399 bytes. Sep 6 18:19:15 the_swamp pppd[2432]: Exit.
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 6.1b
On Mon, 06 Sep 1999, you wrote: We need to add this in /etc/conf.modules: alias tty-ldisc-3ppp_async alias char-major-108 ppp_generic And we also need this: mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0 Jean-Michel Dault hmmm my Mandrake sure did not like that :-( no vfat support and other failures /etc/conf.modules: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias tty-ldisc-3ppp_async alias char-major-108 ppp_generic mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0 Sep 6 19:47:20 the_swamp pppd[2450]: ioctl(TIOCSETD(PPP)): Invalid argument(22) Sep 6 19:47:20 the_swamp pppd[2450]: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. If that fails, check t NOTE: see attached gif for kppp error; Sep 6 19:36:49 the_swamp syslogd 1.3-3: restart. Sep 6 19:36:49 the_swamp syslog: syslogd startup succeeded Sep 6 19:36:49 the_swamp syslog: klogd startup succeeded Sep 6 19:36:49 the_swamp kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Sep 6 19:36:49 the_swamp kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.2.13-pre4mdk Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Loaded 6373 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.2.13-pre4mdk. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.13. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: No module symbols loaded. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Linux version 2.2.13-pre4mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version pgcc-2.91.66 19990314 (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Sat Sep 4 17:37:49 CEST 1999 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Detected 133639827 Hz processor. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 53.25 BogoMIPS Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Memory: 22444k/24576k available (1120k kernel code, 412k reserved, 516k data, 84k init) Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium 75 - 200 stepping 0c Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfae90 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Initializing RT netlink socket Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Starting kswapd v 1.5 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.9) Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.20 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PIIX: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 38 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PIIX: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PIIX: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS) Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PIIX: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: PIIX: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: hda: FUJITSU MPD3084AT, ATA DISK drive Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: hdc: MATSHITA CR-583, ATAPI CDROM drive Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Sep 6 19:36:50 the_swamp kernel: hda: FUJITSU MPD3084AT, 8063MB w/512kB Cache,
[Cooker] modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0
I've had this problem with the last two kernels. If I put the proper stuff for sound in /etc/conf.modules, I get lots of errors. Sep 6 19:57:53 the_swamp PAM_pwdb[411]: (kde) session opened for user terp by (uid=0) Sep 6 19:58:36 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0 Sep 6 19:58:37 the_swamp modprobe: can't locate module sound-service-0-3 BTW, I'm waiting for a new CVS of lothar soundconfig to try to help debug so I'm not including all the error messages here. Thanks, John
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] NAME: initscripts VER: 4.23 REL: 28mdk
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:31:13 +0200, you wrote: Kaixo! In fact gmc, when launched for the first time, adds an icon for any partition that is user mountable (has 'user' in the options field in /etc/fstab). Gnome has had that feature since RH6. Their icons also have the capability to eject cd's and zip disks. Is anything else needed ? Re-fix the touch /etc/resolv.confin madrake_everytime
Re: [Cooker] Unable to install diskdrake
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, you wrote: sorry, currently uploading a i586 version :( (diskdrake-990824-10mdk.i586.rpm) Even though there were some error messages and it ended with a segfault and core dump (very similar to the ones I reported earlier), I managed to convert a 1gig FAT32 to ext2, format it and change it to my new /usr/local. I had put /usr/local and mandrake stuff in /tmp and after reboot, was able to relocate back to new /usr/local. Very handy program... My /home and /usr/local are getting to be "personalized" with lots of stuff and I don't want to have to redo after I do another install. Things working pretty good. Haven't re-installed since 22nd or tried the new Panoramix yet. Maybe on the weekend. I'm starting to do productive stuff with linux now and have to search for some nice apps. Unfortunately, I have to go back to windows and use CorelDraw to get some stuff done. Thanks. PS. I may be splitting this 1gig in the future and will record all error messages.
