Re: [Cooker] Nvidia 3.3.6 / 4.2.0 choice on install
Ooops! damn foot in mouth again. Rephrase that, to what I meant, instead of what I said. (Yes I do know the definition of "FREE" ) Wouldn't it be a better policy to refer people to, or notify them of, the availability of the Nvidea 3D drivers, and install the current XFree86 4.2.. drivers rather than have them install poor quality "experimental" drivers during installation. Currently the inclusion of the option to install poor 3d drivers is detrimental to the distibutions reputation. However including a reference to a free download (albiet, proprietry Software ) would not be nearly so bad. Hey! on the upside if enough people then complain to them(NVidea) they may even fix the drivers. dcd dcd wrote: > Hi, >I don't understand why these drivers are excluded. They are a free > download from NVidea, and currently it only hurts the distro that 3d > is so poor in the standard edition. > dcd > > Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > >> Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 10:43, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> (13) 3D acceleration: whatever does this refer to? >>>>> why would 3.3.6 give 3D, but not 4.2.0, and why is it "experimental"? >>>>> >>>> >>>> There is no free software 3d acceleration for nvidia in XFree-4, >>>> while there was an experimental one in XFree-3.3. >>>> >>> >>> Personally I think this section should be changed to make it *REALLY* >>> clear that X 3.3.6 really isn't recommended. The wording here could well >>> lead a newbie to choose 3.3.6, thinking it's the best option, whereas it >>> definitely isn't (I know this because it's exactly what I did the first >>> time I installed Mandrake); the 3D acceleration in 3.3.6 is pants anyway >>> and unusable for most things you'd want 3D acceleration for, and 4.2.0 >>> >> >> >> It's tagged "experimental". If people choose it, it's on purpose! >> >> >> >>> is so much better in other areas that everyone should use it unless they >>> have a really pressing reason not to. Perhaps it could make this more >>> clear, and also mention the availability of closed-source drivers for >>> 4.2.0 providing proper 3D support, which would hopefully mean less >>> people would make my mistake. >>> >> >> >> When you buy the powerpack, you have the proprietary drivers in >> the commercial CD's, and I think the drivers are automatically >> installed (it's bad, but too many customers ask for it). >> >> >> > > > >
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion cdrom recognition
Hi, Thanks I need to upgrade again, my version of mcc doesn't have that yet. Yes, in the past I've done similar mod's to my machine but it doesn't always work. Usually happens when it's for someone else and it's not easy to get newbies to modify the system via command line if it didn't work straight up. dcd. ps Maybe in part because Iv'e only just passed newbie stage into tinkerer myself Buchan Milne wrote: > > > There are sometimes issues when using ide-scsi on non-burners. I have > had some problems, it seems that I can't use supermount on my writer if > I use ide-scsi on my dvd/cdrom, so I don't think ide-scsi should be the > default for CDROMs/DVDs when a writer is detected (although we might > want more opinions on this). > > However, I requested that it be an option be added to MCC to be able to > switch CD-ROMs to ide-scsi, and Pixel apparently did add it, I haven't > had a chance to test it yet (CD-ROM drive on this machine is stuffed, so > ~ it's disconnected). > > Please test this if you can. > > Anyway, all that is needed (AFAICR) is to add 'hdX=ide-scsi' to > lilo.conf, run lilo, reboot. > > Buchan > >
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion cdrom recognition
Yes , Misunderstood. I am talking about the additional cdrom(s) that may be on the system I agree the burners have been installed under scsi-ide and work well However many people still have cdrom's or dvd's that they want to record from and these are not set up as scsi-ide and therefor not recognised from the burning programs dcd Richard Houser wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > dcd wrote: > | Hi, > |Not sure where this should be addressed to but here goes. > | > | I've been using mandrake for a while now myself and the most common > | complaint I get from other new users > | is as follows > |It recognised my cdburner (and called it scsi-ide) > | But I cant get any of the cdburning programs to recognise my > cdrom(atapi > | ide) so I can burn on the fly like i do in windows. > | > | My suggestion is that detection of a cd burner, then alters any atapi > | cdroms detected to be scsi-ide links also. > | Can these co-exist with the std setup, ie links created but not obvious > | at the GUI level except when detected by programs such as xcdroast. > | > | dcd > | IMHO this would make the whole cdrom cdburning experience much easier > | especially as most howtos convert your cdrom to scsi-ide are written > | for the old /dev system no longer used by Mandrake > | > | > | > > I might not be understanding you, but as of Mandrake 8.2, my CD-burners > (3 different IDE models) have been properly configured and setup to use > the SCSI device names as assigned via scsi-ide. > > Did you possibly add the burner after installing the system (something I > did not test, or would you be willing to explain further? > > > > Also, a small note for the mailing list maintainers: The original > message didn't have a reply to addess that would place it on the list. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAj14GJwACgkQUMkt1ZRwL1O+wACgj4W0LUR2N0F5LHJ4SKjWva8g > EnwAnjGE1ILIqDG1B3l/zz9XXUqFPj71 > =kZYN > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > >
[Cooker] Suggestion cdrom recognition
Hi, Not sure where this should be addressed to but here goes. I've been using mandrake for a while now myself and the most common complaint I get from other new users is as follows It recognised my cdburner (and called it scsi-ide) But I cant get any of the cdburning programs to recognise my cdrom(atapi ide) so I can burn on the fly like i do in windows. My suggestion is that detection of a cd burner, then alters any atapi cdroms detected to be scsi-ide links also. Can these co-exist with the std setup, ie links created but not obvious at the GUI level except when detected by programs such as xcdroast. dcd IMHO this would make the whole cdrom cdburning experience much easier especially as most howtos convert your cdrom to scsi-ide are written for the old /dev system no longer used by Mandrake
