Re: [Cooker] 8.2 comments/problems
Le Mercredi 24 Avril 2002 11:56, vous avez écrit : > I'm pretty happy with 8.2 on my dell inspiron 8000, > but every other machine I've tried has problems. > > We were planning on installing Mandrake 8.2 on some > gateway AMD machines, but the one machine I've tried > randomly crashes every 20-30minutes (or total video > failure, no sync to the monitor). Do you have a nvidia card ? Try the Option "NvAGP" "0" in the Xfree configuration file. It is maybe nvidia related problem. Check with your motherboard model and nvidia known's incompatibilities. Installed on many computers/configurations, and even an acer laptop, everything went fine. > On a dell 5000 it doesn't recognize the xircom network > card. My Xircom was recognized by hardrake, did you launched it ? Stef > Both of these machines run 8.1 no problem. > > On a dell inspiron 8100, it didn't recognize the video > card, but if you manually installed drivers from > Nvidia, then everything was okay. > It doesn't seem quite ready for the masses yet. > > When I get some time, I'll find out what video card > the Gateway machine uses, and exact details of the > xircom network card. > > > > __ > Only a few days left to file! http://taxes.yahoo.ca
[Cooker] 8.2 comments/problems
I'm pretty happy with 8.2 on my dell inspiron 8000, but every other machine I've tried has problems. We were planning on installing Mandrake 8.2 on some gateway AMD machines, but the one machine I've tried randomly crashes every 20-30minutes (or total video failure, no sync to the monitor). On a dell 5000 it doesn't recognize the xircom network card. Both of these machines run 8.1 no problem. On a dell inspiron 8100, it didn't recognize the video card, but if you manually installed drivers from Nvidia, then everything was okay. It doesn't seem quite ready for the masses yet. When I get some time, I'll find out what video card the Gateway machine uses, and exact details of the xircom network card. __ Only a few days left to file! http://taxes.yahoo.ca
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
> > AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). >>>Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. >>>I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. >>>All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. >>> I'm seeing it a bit different in case there are no hardware troubles, and mistakes, IRQ sharing is good for linux but not for windo$e some time ago i had two free PCI slots and i bought a TV card, every try to install the drivers for win9x causes total freze there was no way to install winNT or 2k with the card pluged, but after instaling the ?OS? no troubles instaling the card but with linux not a little trouble and now i use all the PCI slots regarding the fact that one shares IRQ with the AGP bus, one with the on board HPT366 controler, and one with the USB it would be a wonder , if possible to install winxx on such a PC and linux works wonderfully [root@svetljo java]# cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 3). Master Capable. Latency=32. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd000 [0xd7ff]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 3). Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=128. Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xf000 [0xf00f]. Bus 0, device 7, function 2: USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 1). IRQ 19. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xc000 [0xc01f]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 2). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 9, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 (rev 11). Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=2. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf00 [0xdf7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf80 [0xdf80]. I/O at 0xc400 [0xc47f]. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=40. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81b000 [0xdf81bfff]. Bus 0, device 11, function 1: Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 17). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf818000 [0xdf818fff]. Bus 0, device 13, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 16). IRQ 17. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64. I/O at 0xc800 [0xc8ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf819000 [0xdf8190ff]. Bus 0, device 15, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (#2) (rev 16). IRQ 16. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64. I/O at 0xcc00 [0xccff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81a000 [0xdf81a0ff]. Bus 0, device 17, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-744B [DS-1S Audio Controller] (rev 2). IRQ 19. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=25. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdf81 [0xdf817fff]. I/O at 0xd000 [0xd03f]. I/O at 0xd400 [0xd403]. Bus 0, device 19, function 0: Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (rev 1). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd807]. I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc03]. I/O at 0xe000 [0xe0ff]. Bus 0, device 19, function 1: Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (#2) (rev 1). IRQ 18. Master Capable. Latency=120. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xe400 [0xe407]. I/O at 0xe800 [0xe803]. I/O at 0xec00 [0xecff]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 1). IRQ 16. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=32. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdc00 [0xddff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xd8003fff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd900 [0xd97f]. >>> /MattB >>I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with >>hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. >>I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing >>hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fi
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
- Original Message - From: "wyrmzr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments > On Thursday 21 March 2002 08:13, you wrote: > > On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: > > > I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 > > > ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit > > > sluggish at times > > > but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. > > > I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to > > > resell it > > > as soon as its avilable in boxed format. > > > > > > The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system > > > that has onboard "Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B)" > > > (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I > > > would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. > > > Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind > > > of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so > > > often. > > > > > > I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten > > > better with > > > the newer kernel. > > > > > > Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next > > > to the > > > AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause > > > they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ > > > sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). > > > > Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. > > I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All > > in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. > > > > > /MattB > I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with > hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. > I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing > hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. > So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as > far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it as > something else. > > Yes thats true, Windows can do alot of strange things. /MattB
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:29 am, you wrote: > > > AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly > > > cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the > > > IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). > > > > Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. > > I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. > > All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. > > > > > /MattB > > I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with > hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. > I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing > hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. > So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as > far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it > as something else. Yes this is true but just because it installs doesn't mean everything is ok. I own a small computer store and It's kind of funny; the public looks at it kind of like a toaster if they turn it on and it runs thats all they care about. It doesn't matter if everything is running with shunted drivers that are good enough to just barely make it run as long as it runs. You may not notice a slow down in windows but that doesn't mean the subsystems aren't running slower than they could. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
Tech At Mathco Dot Com wrote: >I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's >and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at >times >but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. >I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to >resell it >as soon as its avilable in boxed format. > >The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that >has onboard "Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B)" >(Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I >would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. >Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of >static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. > >I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten >better with >the newer kernel. > >Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to >the >AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause >they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing >(Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). > >/MattB > I got the same (probably - had clicks in sound, lot of them) way back in MDK 8.1 with this VIA KT133A Southbridge AC97 sound. It worked for me to manually switch to Alsa driver (by editing modules.conf, I think) - much better sound, no clicks anymore. I am not sure about MDK 8.2 (I upgraded and it stayed in Alsa), but in any case, check what driver you use. Michal
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 08:13, you wrote: > On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: > > I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 > > ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit > > sluggish at times > > but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. > > I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to > > resell it > > as soon as its avilable in boxed format. > > > > The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system > > that has onboard "Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B)" > > (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I > > would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. > > Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind > > of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so > > often. > > > > I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten > > better with > > the newer kernel. > > > > Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next > > to the > > AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause > > they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ > > sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). > > Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. > I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All > in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. > > > /MattB I actually get the impression that windows will install on systems with hardware problems, where Linux will hard lock during the install process. I've seen at least 2 systems where Linux won't install, like it's probing hardware and finds a problem, but windows installs just fine. So far, this is just a theory, but I know windows can do strange things as far as recognizing hardware, and then when it misidentifies it, it uses it as something else.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Comments
On Thursday 21 March 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: > I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's > and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at > times > but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. > I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to > resell it > as soon as its avilable in boxed format. > > The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system > that has onboard "Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B)" > (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I > would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. > Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of > static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. > > I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten > better with > the newer kernel. > > Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to > the > AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause > they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ > sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). Windows may not exibit the problem but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm sure civilme could expound more but this is a common misconception. All in not well in the windows world it just hides problems better. > > /MattB -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] 8.2 Comments
I have tested Cooker for awhile now and I downloaded the release 8.2 ISO's and they went in without any problems. I kind of find it a bit sluggish at times but then again what do you expect with a K62-300 and 256 MB ram. I'm really satisfied with the product and I will bring it into my shop to resell it as soon as its avilable in boxed format. The only _minor_ glitch that I found was when installing it on a system that has onboard "Built-in AC97 Digital Audio (by VT82C686B)" (Epox 8KTA3+Pro board). The sound would come out kind of low and I would get like (sounds funny) *puff* sounds out of my speakers. Well thats the best I can explain the sound. Maybe it could be some kind of static or the sounddriver sends out some kind of signal every so often. I didn't try the Release version on a board like this, maybe the gotten better with the newer kernel. Also when installing a Realtek 10/100 network card in the PCI slot next to the AGP card seem to slow the system down when running Linux . Probobly cause they both use the same IRQ. I guess its something to do with the IRQ sharing (Windows doesn't have this problem with sharing IRQ's). /MattB
