Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Todd Lyons wrote: > > No, it does three things: > 1) Any rpm that exists on your system that is not on the new install > CDs will be left alone. > 2) Any rpm that exists on your system that is on the new install CDs > will be rpm -U'd. > 3) Any rpm required by those installed by step 2 will be installed. Case in point: Initial install without the RPMS2 link produced an error message for all the RPMs from contrib. Upgrade install, either form of upgrade, with the RPMS2 link in place and package selection unchanged (a blank form) should now attempt to install the RPMs it could not on the initial install. Surely? -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Charles A Edwards wrote: > > Sounds like when the update errored on the Contrib pkgs that those pkgs were removed >from your db. > Try rpm -rebuilddb and see if that solves things. I did - no change. RPMs from RPMS2 (contrib) not installed. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Ron Stodden wrote: > > I cannot do a fresh install because of the immense amount of work one > must do to get from where the Mandrake installer leaves off to reach a > useable system: List amended: > arrange automount of the home partition on /home, > from another linux remove all the contents of /home, > replace fstab, > replace lilo.conf, run lilo, > get rid of the /mnt directory in favour of a /local directory, > set up many more mount points, > set up the same set of mount points for each machine on the network > under /, > replace /etc/resolv.conf, > replace /etc/hosts, change end of rc.local, > replace wine.conf, set default rouite of all non-gateway machines to the gateway (eth0), > install the iptables RPM (should have been installed by Mandrake), > set up iptables scripts (I use MonMotha's), > install the nfs-clients RPM, > replace /etc/exports, > run exportfs -r > add a script for setting the clock (ntp-set) with panel invocation, > set it executable by root, > run kdf and worldwatch all the time, > log on as root to set special schema for all root operations (These > appear when su to root - this is a bad omission by Mandrake). > etc. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:26:22 +1100 Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" wrote: > > > How can you say that? Your understanding of english is backwards! > > It means to update the packages you have, not to add new ones! "Update" > > is a verb that means to take something that you HAVE and make it new. > > It does not mean to give you anything you did not have before! > > Nope. To update means to bring your system into line with the vendor's > present offerings for your application set. > > Example: Have a look at the Mandrake update utility on your desktop to > see what update means. Ron Sounds like when the update errored on the Contrib pkgs that those pkgs were removed from your db. Try rpm -rebuilddb and see if that solves things. Charles
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote: > How can you say that? Your understanding of english is backwards! > It means to update the packages you have, not to add new ones! "Update" > is a verb that means to take something that you HAVE and make it new. > It does not mean to give you anything you did not have before! Nope. To update means to bring your system into line with the vendor's present offerings for your application set. Example: Have a look at the Mandrake update utility on your desktop to see what update means. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Tim McKenzie wrote: > > What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the > packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. Of course they are on the syatem - in 9.2 contrib. How could it be otherwise? > The only way > I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list > during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled > package it should install it. As I explained upthread these are expert upgrade/"packages only" installs. For these cases, the selection panel is displayed with nothing checked - it should not be displayed). I always uncheck the individual package selection checkbox. So the problem remains. > In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I > just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the > install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. I cannot do a fresh install because of the immense amount of work one must do to get from where the Mandrake installer leaves off to reach a useable system: arrange automount of the home partition on /home, from another linux remove all the contents of /home, replace fstab, replace lilo.conf, get rid of the /mnt directory in favour of a /local directory, set up many more mount points, set up the same set of mount points for each machine on the network under /, replace /etc/resolv.conf, replace /etc/hosts, replace rc.local, replace wine.conf, install the iptables RPM (should have been installed by Mandrake), set up iptables scripts (I use MonMotha's), install the nfs-clients RPM, replace /etc/exports, run exportfs -r add a script for setting the clock (ntp-set) with panel invocation, set it executable by root, run kdf and worldwatch all the time, log on as root to set special schema for all root operations (These appear when su to root - this is a bad omission by Mandrake). etc. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Tim McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 23 March 2002 07:29 am, you wrote: >> Warly wrote: >> > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update >> > > packages only". >> > >> > Reread slowly this last sentence > > What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the > packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. The only way > I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list > during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled > package it should install it. In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I > just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the > install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. yes -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Saturday 23 March 2002 07:29 am, you wrote: > Warly wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update > > > packages only". > > > > Reread slowly this last sentence What Warly left obscure is the fact you used the word UPGRADE ;) If the packages aren't on the system, they're not going to be upgraded. The only way I'd call that a bug is if you specifically checked them in the package list during this upgrade. I believe that if you check an unchecked/uninstalled package it should install it. In my case I forgot to make the sym link so I just installed the ones from the command prompt. Try going through the install again but choosing Install rather than upgrade. -Tim
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Warly wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update > > packages only". > > Reread slowly this last sentence > > > _None_ of the aforementioned packages were installed!!! > > > > What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? Huh? Obscurity is unhelpful. The line before contains two simple questions which I am sure have simple answers. Update packages only surely means to add those which should be present. I have since done a full update install, to the same effect: _None_ of the aforementioned packages from 8.2 contrib were installed!!! What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? Thankyou in anticipation. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
On Saturday 23 Mar 2002 09:37, Warly wrote: > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have done an hd.img install of 8.2 which lacked the symbolic link > > from the RPMS directory to the contrib directory, the link being > > called RPMS2. The install proceeded well, except at the end > > libmetakit, gnome-guile, flightgear, kwintv, openuniverse, sylpheed, > > etc were reported as "An error occurred...". These are all located > > in the contrib directory. Me too, so I stopped the install in the middle of package installation by clicking on the bottom button and created the link to contrib like Ron did. > > > > So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update > > packages only". > > Reread slowly this last sentence I then reran the install choosing expert upgrade and was given no opportunity to enter root password nor add any users - if I cliked on those buttons DrakX always looped straight to Summary. I just did a clean expert install then - which went OK. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 18 hours 6 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have done an hd.img install of 8.2 which lacked the symbolic link from > the RPMS directory to the contrib directory, the link being called > RPMS2. The install proceeded well, except at the end libmetakit, > gnome-guile, flightgear, kwintv, openuniverse, sylpheed, etc were > reported as "An error occurred...". These are all located in the > contrib directory. > > So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update > packages only". Reread slowly this last sentence > _None_ of the aforementioned packages were installed!!! > > What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? -- Warly
[Cooker] 8.2 install - RPMS2
I have done an hd.img install of 8.2 which lacked the symbolic link from the RPMS directory to the contrib directory, the link being called RPMS2. The install proceeded well, except at the end libmetakit, gnome-guile, flightgear, kwintv, openuniverse, sylpheed, etc were reported as "An error occurred...". These are all located in the contrib directory. So I created the missing link and reran the install, choosing "update packages only". _None_ of the aforementioned packages were installed!!! What did I do wrong? How does one get the missing packages installed? -- Ron. [au]
