Re: [Cooker] acpi problem (may be)
Hi, I've had this problem with kernel 2.4.22-12... there was a process using 100%Cpu (I don't remember now which one...) killing it the fan run better. In that case the problem wasn't ACPI but that process... Bye Stefano Bernard Varaine wrote: Hi, since I updated to kernel 2.4.22-18 and then 21 now the fan on my Notebook( Compaq Presario 2830AP ) seem to be running all the time. (I should reinstall my older kernel but it seems that 2.4.22-10 was not having this problem) Anyone with similar issues ? Bernard
Re: [Cooker] acpi problem (may be)
Stefano, did check this before posting here, but no nothing out of the ordinary BErnard stefano gozzi wrote: Hi, I've had this problem with kernel 2.4.22-12... there was a process using 100%Cpu (I don't remember now which one...) killing it the fan run better. In that case the problem wasn't ACPI but that process... Bye Stefano Bernard Varaine wrote: Hi, since I updated to kernel 2.4.22-18 and then 21 now the fan on my Notebook( Compaq Presario 2830AP ) seem to be running all the time. (I should reinstall my older kernel but it seems that 2.4.22-10 was not having this problem) Anyone with similar issues ? Bernard -- -Quote of the day -- I don't think a person should have two sides - a private and a public side. There should be no gap, that is not honest. (His Holiness The Dalai Lama) Digital Objects Ltd Internet security / Web hosting design / Web enabled applications PO Box 60510, Titirangi Waitakere City Phone: 0800 LETS DOIT (538736) Fax: +64 9 8128 368 www.digitalobjects.co.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] acpi problem (may be)
Hi, since I updated to kernel 2.4.22-18 and then 21 now the fan on my Notebook( Compaq Presario 2830AP ) seem to be running all the time. (I should reinstall my older kernel but it seems that 2.4.22-10 was not having this problem) Anyone with similar issues ? Bernard -- -Quote of the day -- I don't think a person should have two sides - a private and a public side. There should be no gap, that is not honest. (His Holiness The Dalai Lama) Digital Objects Ltd Internet security / Web hosting design / Web enabled applications PO Box 60510, Titirangi Waitakere City Phone: 0800 LETS DOIT (538736) Fax: +64 9 8128 368 www.digitalobjects.co.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] ACPI problem
I have a Compaq Evo N800w laptop and have problems using ACPI. I have removed the acpi=off parameter from the bootlog and have the following output from dmesg: ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 On node 0 totalpages: 131024 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 126928 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. ACPI: RSDP (v000 COMPAQ ) @ 0x000f4f60 ACPI: RSDT (v001 COMPAQ CPQ0057 04882.00544) @ 0x1fff0c84 ACPI: FADT (v002 COMPAQ CPQ0057 0.2) @ 0x1fff0c00 ACPI: SSDT (v001 COMPAQ CPQGysr 0.04097) @ 0x1fff6b29 ACPI: SSDT (v001 COMPAQ CPQMag 0.04097) @ 0x1fff6c2f ACPI: DSDT (v001 COMPAQ EVON800 1.0) @ 0x ACPI: BIOS passes blacklist ACPI: MADT not present snip ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030122 PCI: BIOS32 entry (0xc00f) in high memory, cannot use. PCI: Using configuration type 1 ACPI-0262: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE15 ACPI-0262: *** Info: GPE Block1 defined as GPE16 to GPE31 ACPI-1102: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.C047.C05A.C0E5.C0E9] (Node c159b860), AE_NOT_EXIST ACPI-1102: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.C047.C05A.C0E5._INI] (Node c1599240), AE_NOT_EXIST ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S3 S4 S5) ACPI: Power Resource [C158] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C16C] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C170] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C174] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C17D] (on) ACPI: Power Resource [C0E4] (on) ACPI: Power Resource [C1EE] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C1EF] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C1F0] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [C1F1] (off) PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries And apparently acpi can't do anything (BTW, the acpid is running): # acpi -V No support for device type: battery No support for device type: thermal No support for device type: ac_adapter Is there something I can do to fix this. I've never used ACPI for anything before and don't really know how it is supposed to work. /Mauritz Underscore AB
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. the fact that firmaware vendors don't care much about bioses quality and standard conformance is a (very) well known fact. they regularly : - adding extensions to standards (see the scores of different calls to get memory size or map), - provides broken table (mp, acpi, ...) - broke ressources allocation - ...
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that it is not the BIOS being broken but the code being broken. I DO NOT necessarily fault the Linux developers for this though, as they are working with limited info and have to reverse engineer everything. In my mind it cannot be that the BIOS is always broken. if the BIOS is broken, why does it work with the other OS. well it's expected when an os vendor force bioses vendors to switch to acpi, thus beginning to not care about std pci ressources setting and the like. thus alternatives others who still have not yet an acpi subsystem begin to fail on laptops and the like. then, the developper who implement an acpi subsystem following the draft, find out that as usual[1] firmware vendors fscked the implementation. always the same story... some oses vendors can live with a driver per firmware vendor, some just do not have the ressources for that. [1] remember pill of ata workaround for hw vendors excentricities, and the like ...
[Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 - -- http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U/Z9sKWd3vub6wURArL5AJ9mIy/J2ZDFozDsuCbZBgfg42YIMQCeNkzN 12BBZ+U5LgUqvRrte+2VZcQ= =EbZr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U/jjGu5uuMFlL5MRAiWoAJ0Z+IMZ54YjPVetl+VY62WhcXa8TACdEzps n5Qca3jV1FSfAsHSkqhPzDE= =adrK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 03:36 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. I dont know.. but it is really annoying.. - -- http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+U/sXsKWd3vub6wURAgymAJ9s13r3GKanxJPJ3M+MCQClaM27rACaA51u OyHNpGIxXPnS3Vhhrsmk0lc= =uD18 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:36 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. I need to clarify my point in that although the question was about acpi, I was addressing the error message, not the question. The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VALRGu5uuMFlL5MRAsfqAJwJp+LW9tAOeb4PqLjyz/z5lqXV1QCfQCCa qyD/NBb3kzEMSPHOZcCGaYI= =0gKQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:18 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:36 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. I need to clarify my point in that although the question was about acpi, I was addressing the error message, not the question. The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. Do you know if there is anything that can be done about it being broken? - -- http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for pgp key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VA+UsKWd3vub6wURAqhcAKCBP89VDFhApRLzJuZyolWJb4eAzQCfdf85 VDPjDhrSzNWg+ki6WznUlG4= =Ue5z -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 05:18 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:36 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 04:26 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Feb 19 15:16:20 pr2 kernel: Dell Inspiron with broken BIOS detected. Refusing to enable the local APIC. would this have something to do with ACPI not working properly on a Dell Inspiron 8200 How can what seems like every machine have a broken BIOS with respect to apic. At some point do we look at the kernel implementation and try to fix that instead of saying everybody else is screwed up. I need to clarify my point in that although the question was about acpi, I was addressing the error message, not the question. The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. I've got a Compaq Presario 700 series laptop. I had to recompile the kernel and leave away apic to get acpi to function. The only way that I have tested the functionality of acpi is wrt cpu fan throttling, shutdown and reboot. These all work fine. Which acpi functions depend on apic? How will acpi missbehave if apic is not installed. Any remedies? Thank you very much, Sascha Noyes - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VBLLgzJdfX+cTW8RAgx/AKCWZL7XPl3yHsxHS4/EMqao/+HqAwCfYkLa On4KmOJzx4GPIkGvdOlHnCM= =vyoB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:13 pm, Jeremy Salch wrote: Do you know if there is anything that can be done about it being broken? I think that it is not the BIOS being broken but the code being broken. I DO NOT necessarily fault the Linux developers for this though, as they are working with limited info and have to reverse engineer everything. In my mind it cannot be that the BIOS is always broken. if the BIOS is broken, why does it work with the other OS. I wish I knew more at a technical level on this one so I could do more than just bitch. But it just seems to me that everyone's BIOS is not broken. The more correct answer for right now might be, we just don't have enough info to get it working stably right now, but we're working on it. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VBNkGu5uuMFlL5MRAg76AJ975EeE3FYMqSkgKIQCRPWoTsYtOQCeNDTC /0T3nDucIINhUyKoQbh689I= =6g8/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:27 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. I've got a Compaq Presario 700 series laptop. I had to recompile the kernel and leave away apic to get acpi to function. The only way that I have tested the functionality of acpi is wrt cpu fan throttling, shutdown and reboot. These all work fine. Which acpi functions depend on apic? How will acpi missbehave if apic is not installed. Any remedies? Since the apic maps the interrupts, and acpi monitors the interrupts for activity, a broken apic implementation can prevent acpi from working properly. I know on my machine (which is a desktop) if I boot with apic off but acpi on, I get an entry about avery .1 second about apic errors in my message log that I presume are coming from acpi, because if I then boot with acpi=off in addition to noapic the errors go away. It seems that acpi for laptops is much more advanced than it is in the desktop arena, so you're laptop may work fine, but many desktops get hosed. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+VBkOGu5uuMFlL5MRAnJpAJ0etfxiE6/VqoHin3F/Ea5lZhN6nACfcn1w toBDxPQc7wj84SbGk8hLle4= =KiDS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] ACPI problem with Dell i8200
On Thursday 20 February 2003 00:53, Greg Meyer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 06:27 pm, Sascha Noyes wrote: The answer to the question is that the acpi implementation depends on the apic, so if the apic does not work properly, acpi will not work properly either. I've got a Compaq Presario 700 series laptop. I had to recompile the kernel and leave away apic to get acpi to function. The only way that I have tested the functionality of acpi is wrt cpu fan throttling, shutdown and reboot. These all work fine. Which acpi functions depend on apic? How will acpi missbehave if apic is not installed. Any remedies? Since the apic maps the interrupts, and acpi monitors the interrupts for activity, a broken apic implementation can prevent acpi from working properly. I know on my machine (which is a desktop) if I boot with apic off but acpi on, I get an entry about avery .1 second about apic errors in my message log that I presume are coming from acpi, because if I then boot with acpi=off in addition to noapic the errors go away. It seems that acpi for laptops is much more advanced than it is in the desktop arena, so you're laptop may work fine, but many desktops get hosed. Yes acpi is broken on a lot of bios on desktop machine. They have incomplete incompatible acpi implementations. Try to use hybernate on win98se or winXP on a desktopmachine. You wont be happy with a lot of them. as hibernate is not the same as acpi you may try to install winXP on a desktopmachine with acpi. So in my eyes the problem of acpi under Linux is that the acpi-implementation has to workaround around a lot of faulty hardware. Since Notebooks rely on a good powersaving they have to implement working acpi implementations and as apm and acpi do pretty much the same , but acpi can more than apm, the throw away apm. Didn't read the whole thread, hope this was not OT ;) -- Regards Steffen counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks
[Cooker] ACPI problem (Gigabyte GA-7IXEH)
When we first switched to ACPI, it wouldn't work on my desktop at all, so I switched back to APM. Thought I'd give it another try with the newest kernel (-6mdk). Now it boots, but it doesn't seem to power up the USB bus properly. That is, my M$oft Intellimouse Optical normally turns itself on (you can tell from the snazzy red light) quite early in boot up (well, when it does the USB stuff :). With ACPI, it doesn't turn itself on, it just sits there looking cold and dead, the poor little thing. This is a Gigabyte GA-7IXEH motherboard (KT133E chipset). Is this known? Is there anything the MDK guys can do about it, or should I report it upstream (if so, where?) -- adamw
