Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > Will be this the end of the DVD? > > I don't care much for DVD, as long as there is that horrible "regional > algorithm" (taking all legalities into account of course,) Yep but thefor those want see there DVD the OMS did it corectly (illegal) the address is : www.linuxvideo.org
Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
Yo, On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 06:05:38PM +0200, Giuseppe Ghibo' wrote: > Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > > > Well I can provide the DivX plaer wihtout the codecs, that should be legal. > > Maybe also a rpm with .spec file for codecs with 'NoSrc:', so to > not include binaries, but to let users to build the RPM of the codecs themselves. > I saw that Fred Crozat compiled Xtheatre just now, he put a URL to the codecs. Maybe I'll actually build a script (oh, later ...) and get things with wget. > Anyway IMHO it's just a matter of time. Now that it has been demostrated > that wavelet compression (such as those in MP4, but wavelet allows more, MUCH more) > could compress a DVD in a CD, there will be plenty of 'also free source' > (http://www.proyectmayo.com, http://www.3ivx.com/) [I don't think MPEG group could >patent 'wavelets'] codecs. The > problem will be, which standard will impose. > Will be this the end of the DVD? > I don't care much for DVD, as long as there is that horrible "regional algorithm" (taking all legalities into account of course,) -- Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> §õªø· ~/.signature ¤¤¤åbig5 compliant. http://devel.mandrakesoft.com/~snailtalk ftp://devel.mandrakesoft.com/pub/people/snailtalk "7 days of honeymoon makes one whole week."
Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
Good idea! :-) Libavi, xtheater? XMPS seems a little on the buggy side? Cheers Kon > Well I can provide the DivX plaer wihtout the codecs, that should be legal.
Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > Well I can provide the DivX plaer wihtout the codecs, that should be > > legal. > > Maybe also a rpm with .spec file for codecs with 'NoSrc:', so to > not include binaries, but to let users to build the RPM of the codecs > themselves. > > Anyway IMHO it's just a matter of time. Now that it has been demostrated > that wavelet compression (such as those in MP4, but wavelet allows more, > MUCH more) could compress a DVD in a CD, there will be plenty of 'also free > source' (http://www.proyectmayo.com, http://www.3ivx.com/) [I don't think > MPEG group could patent 'wavelets'] codecs. The problem will be, which > standard will impose. > Will be this the end of the DVD? > > Also [http://www.constellation3d.com, > http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/digitalfuture/] > > Bye. > Giuseppe. but it will be a gain of time + for certain codec as windows media a support to enable loading of dll codecs .
Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > Well I can provide the DivX plaer wihtout the codecs, that should be legal. Maybe also a rpm with .spec file for codecs with 'NoSrc:', so to not include binaries, but to let users to build the RPM of the codecs themselves. Anyway IMHO it's just a matter of time. Now that it has been demostrated that wavelet compression (such as those in MP4, but wavelet allows more, MUCH more) could compress a DVD in a CD, there will be plenty of 'also free source' (http://www.proyectmayo.com, http://www.3ivx.com/) [I don't think MPEG group could patent 'wavelets'] codecs. The problem will be, which standard will impose. Will be this the end of the DVD? Also [http://www.constellation3d.com, http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/digitalfuture/] Bye. Giuseppe.
Re: [Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
Yo, On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:31:56PM -0700, Kon wrote: > Exactly. After all, the DivX codec is a rip of the Microsoft MPEG4v3 codec > with broken 'protection' in effect allowing any application to encode video > using the codec, not just MS media encoder. Bad move to put these in the > Mandrake distro. I have a feeling MS will come out and sue these jokers too > when they decide to release their supposed 'next generation divx'. > > Mandrake should stay as far away from this as possible. > Well I can provide the DivX plaer wihtout the codecs, that should be legal. > But as far as legitimate (i.e. non-divx) codecs go - why the heck not! > > Cheers > Kon > > > > > Meir Faraj a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > I found that Xtheater could play asf and avi(with divx) . > > > > > http://Xtheater.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > > > There is also a xmms-avi package which consists of a xmms plugin that > > > > reads (at least) DivX files. > > > > Maybe this must-have package should be part of Mandrake ? > > > > > > It needs some DLL and I don't know where they come from (and I don't > like > > > putting DLL's). > > > > > > > .dll are of course Windows stuff, basically how DivX works on GNU/Linux is > > just some .dll with wine. It's not a matter of whether you like it or not, > but > > these .dll are not freely distributable anyway, so, either way, you cannot > > distribute it on RPM. > -- Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> §õªø· ~/.signature ¤¤¤åbig5 compliant. http://devel.mandrakesoft.com/~snailtalk ftp://devel.mandrakesoft.com/pub/people/snailtalk "7 days of honeymoon makes one whole week."
[Cooker] About *not* playing windows media?
Exactly. After all, the DivX codec is a rip of the Microsoft MPEG4v3 codec with broken 'protection' in effect allowing any application to encode video using the codec, not just MS media encoder. Bad move to put these in the Mandrake distro. I have a feeling MS will come out and sue these jokers too when they decide to release their supposed 'next generation divx'. Mandrake should stay as far away from this as possible. But as far as legitimate (i.e. non-divx) codecs go - why the heck not! Cheers Kon > > > Meir Faraj a écrit : > > > > > > > > I found that Xtheater could play asf and avi(with divx) . > > > > http://Xtheater.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > There is also a xmms-avi package which consists of a xmms plugin that > > > reads (at least) DivX files. > > > Maybe this must-have package should be part of Mandrake ? > > > > It needs some DLL and I don't know where they come from (and I don't like > > putting DLL's). > > > > .dll are of course Windows stuff, basically how DivX works on GNU/Linux is > just some .dll with wine. It's not a matter of whether you like it or not, but > these .dll are not freely distributable anyway, so, either way, you cannot > distribute it on RPM.
