Re: [Cooker] Bugs I've found; supermount in kde 2.0; mitsumi cd-rom humor.

2000-10-27 Thread Vox


During the bombing raid of Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:29:48 CDT, somebody heard
Alaric Ravenhall mumble in fear:

>  Anyway, I have had a problem with cd-rom and floppy drives after creating 
>  them with the kde2.0 create new devices menu. I put in a data cd and I can 
>  access the drive with the icon. I put in a music cd, it says "you do not 
>  have the right to access this drive." Of course, I checked permissions. I 
>  tried it logged on as root. no go. I gave my user and group all 
>  permmissions. No difference. HOWEVER, XMMS can play my music cd. So can cd 
>  player and anything else that plays music. What's up? I should be able to 

You can't mount a music CD in linux, no matter how you try.
There's no support for said filesystem (and, as I understand, the way
windows does it is a *ugly* hack, and we all know how Linus feels about
those).  So...it's not a bug, it's normal.

>  The Mitsumi cd humor is something that happened trying to install the beta 
>  7.2 on a friend's computer. We couldn't boot my cds, which have booted fine 
>  and it eerily still says plug and play OS: NO. yikes. reboot into winblows, 
>  eject, reinsert cd, and nothing happens. use my computer to view cdrom and 
>  it show 1 FILE!!! and it says track01.cda ???!!!?!?!?!?

Seen that before, mostly with floppy drivesit means the
device is dieing and doing stupid things...his CD is about to give up,
that's the real problem.

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Re: [Cooker] Bugs I've found; supermount in kde 2.0; mitsumi cd-rom humor.

2000-10-27 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Alaric Ravenhall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> I put in a data cd and I can access the drive with the icon. I put in a
> music cd, it says "you do not have the right to access this drive." Of
> course, I checked permissions. I tried it logged on as root. no go. I
> gave my user and group all permmissions. No difference. HOWEVER, XMMS
> can play my music cd. So can cd player and anything else that plays
> music. What's up? I should be able to view the tracks on the cd through
> Konquerer.

A music cd basically can't be seen as a "block device" since there is no
information to randomly access the data. (no CRC, etc)

Under Windows (or under XMMS) you'll be able to see "fake files" that
represent each tracks but which do not hold any data byt themselves.
That's a trick to make the selection of the tracks easier, nothing more.
So under a normal file browser or in a shell, trying to access to the
medium and to see its directory contents will just lead to a failure.

Under Beos, there is another trick that make the music tracks appearing as
music files, but that doesn't exist under Linux for the moment (it must go
in the kernel, and it's subject to discussions because audio extracting is
not straightforward, e.g. there is not an universal method that works 100%
of the time).



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Bugs I've found; supermount in kde 2.0; mitsumi cd-rom humor.

2000-10-27 Thread pgeorges

Alaric Ravenhall a écrit :
 
> Anyway, I have had a problem with cd-rom and floppy drives after creating
> them with the kde2.0 create new devices menu. I put in a data cd and I can
> access the drive with the icon. I put in a music cd, it says "you do not
> have the right to access this drive." Of course, I checked permissions. I
> tried it logged on as root. no go. I gave my user and group all
> permmissions. No difference. HOWEVER, XMMS can play my music cd. So can cd
> player and anything else that plays music. What's up? I should be able to
> view the tracks on the cd through Konquerer. Heck, I tried 'cd /mnt/cdrom'
> from terminal and it gave an i/o error.

If I understand your (too) long post, you encounter problems with
supermount : just do as I do, and remove it from /etc/fstab, like for
example :

/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660
ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0  

Supermount is a great source of problems (leading to files not being
written to floppies, impossibility of swapping 2 cd, and being able to
read the 2nd one, ...).




[Cooker] Bugs I've found; supermount in kde 2.0; mitsumi cd-rom humor.

2000-10-26 Thread Alaric Ravenhall

Hi.
I'm new to this message list and relatively new to mandrake, but I've worked 
with unix in the past. I am probably not as great at programming or sysadmin 
as the others here, but I'll learn. I'll try not to ask too many ID10T error 
questions.
I have been using MD 7.0 & 7.1 with great joy. I went out and got the latest 
pre-release of 7.2 and I installed it with NO issues. All hardware was 
recognized and installed. great job, guys.
In order to further the revolution and expand my own knowledge of how to 
resolve situations with the OS, I've found everyone I know that runs 
Winblows and gotten them to utter the phrase that started me on this journey 
-"Linux? Yeah I've been thinking of trying it..." *cackle*
I then show up at their house with my 7.2 beta cds (and 7.1 in case I can't 
resolve something ;) I then proceed to gleefully install it on their 
machines. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!! (yes my spanish sucks.) I've done about 15 
of them so far. Hehehehehe.
Anyway, I have had a problem with cd-rom and floppy drives after creating 
them with the kde2.0 create new devices menu. I put in a data cd and I can 
access the drive with the icon. I put in a music cd, it says "you do not 
have the right to access this drive." Of course, I checked permissions. I 
tried it logged on as root. no go. I gave my user and group all 
permmissions. No difference. HOWEVER, XMMS can play my music cd. So can cd 
player and anything else that plays music. What's up? I should be able to 
view the tracks on the cd through Konquerer. Heck, I tried 'cd /mnt/cdrom' 
from terminal and it gave an i/o error. I tried adding user to the fstab and 
mtab for the cdrom and tried *naively* /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom in that line. 
(found out why that doesn't work ;) Anyway, it's an irritation mainly. The 
floppy though acts goofy about different disks - some it will read some it 
will say I have no right to read ;) Any ideas what's up? In Konquerer, I 
noticed the icons show a lock on them in /mnt. Can I unlock them somehow 
without screwing something up? Let me know.
The Mitsumi cd humor is something that happened trying to install the beta 
7.2 on a friend's computer. We couldn't boot my cds, which have booted fine 
on many other machines. I went into winblows, autoran the cd, and made a 
floppy cdrom.img. The install cranked up, and couldn't initialize the cdrom, 
give me a cute menu. I tried every dang cdrom listed under other cdrom and 
even SCSI, eventho it's IDE. Nothing worked. Went into bios, changed to plug 
and play OS: No, rebooted, it recognized and started to install. used disk 
drake, everything going smooth. get to package selection, it says error: no 
hdlists. hit ok and it goes back to disk drake. messing with it, I figure it 
cannot find any packages, cause that's ACTUALLY the step that is failing. 
try rebooting, now it won't initialize cdrom again. reboot, check in bios, 
and it eerily still says plug and play OS: NO. yikes. reboot into winblows, 
eject, reinsert cd, and nothing happens. use my computer to view cdrom and 
it show 1 FILE!!! and it says track01.cda ???!!!?!?!?!?
Feeling like I'm in the twilight zone, I check it in dos. SAME THING. So, I 
open up the cd player and have it start playing the cd. Since we're on 
cable, it connects to Cd artist database (CDDB or whatever) and it announces 
gleefully that it is an unnamed track by Sting. STING???!?!?!?!?!?!? WHAT 
THA *&@#? It's a 73 minute long BLANK track.
I put 7.1 on his machine that night. I took the disks home, put em in, it's 
fine. normal contents. put 'em in my wife's winblows machine, disk's fine. 
Who knows about that one I'm still laughing on that one.
Laters,
Ravenhall
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