Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-29 Thread Frederik Himpe

On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 21:57, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Well, why Evolution choses a kyrillic charset is beyond me...  If it
 want's to chose windows codepage, it should chose windows-1252, as this
 is closer to iso-8859-15 than windows-1251.  Anyhow, see the Ximian
 bugzilla bugreport.
 
 If you type a ¤ in the subject, do you see a ¤ in the window title, or
 is it a square-like or underscore(_)-like character?

It does not show anything in the title bar, just spaces for each ¤ in
the subject. I run Evolution in KDE, don't know if that makes a
difference.

Frederik





Re: [Cooker] Euro (ˆ) in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-29 Thread Tobias Marx

Am Sam, 2001-12-29 um 16.59 schrieb Neuromancer:
 
 I don't get out of the U.S. much, so would someone mind terribly showing me what
 the Euro symbol looks like?  Maybe send me a picture of it or direct me to a web
 site with a picture of it?

this document should give you a hint :)

http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/y2keuro/docs/euronotes.pdf
 
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Re: [Cooker] Euro (ˆ) in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-29 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Neuromancer« am 2001-12-29 um 12:15:29 -0500 :
 I assume that in order to use this, I need iso-8859-15 (or UTF-8, of course).
 Does this charset lack anything that 8859-1 has?

Uhm, it has some subtle differences.  The most notably one is, that -15
has the ¤.  And some other things changed - but nothing I have ever
used.

In general, it is iso-8859-1 + ¤

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Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-28 Thread Frederik Himpe

On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 08:58, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 So sprach »Frederik Himpe« am 2001-12-27 um 19:25:25 +0100 :
  Euro works in Evolution (¤) mail client, but in Pan I get that strange
  sign which looks like a square with a diagonal line at each of the 4
  corners.
 
 What you get in Pan is the international currency symbol.  This is,
 because you most likely have set a iso-8859-1 charset (I hope *G*).

Do you know where you can set the correct charcet in Gnome and/or Pan?
 
 But that you're able to type the ¤ in Evolution baffles me.  Because
 Evolution simply doesn't do anything for me when I type the ¤ in
 Evolution - http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17900

You've set the correct charset in Evolution, menu Tools - Mail Settings
- Other ?

Mozilla Messenger also works great with euro, it even warns you when
trying to send a message witch characters not supported by the charset
you've set.

Frederik






Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-28 Thread andre

Op vr 28-12-2001, om 08:54 schreef Alexander Skwar:
 So sprach »andre« am 2001-12-27 um 20:28:44 +0100 :
  Maybe a stupid question but AltGr is which key?(i know: the right ALT)
 
 The key labeled AltGr ;)  Keyboards with US layout lack this key, or
 rather: European keyboards have this key.

I have a normale dutch keyboard, what is just a normal us keyboard
except maybe that on the 5 you don't only have 5 and % but also a ¤. Not
that i got that key working. There are true dutch keyboards but i have
never seen one although mandrake7.2 defaulted to it.

 
  because you can't type  without serious problems. So how do you type ¤
  (and other strange letters like é) in linux
 
 Another workaround is Alt+Shift+4 (Alt+$)
 

Doesn't seem to work with me.




Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Frederik Himpe« am 2001-12-28 um 12:22:01 +0100 :
 Do you know where you can set the correct charcet in Gnome and/or Pan?

Uhm, I simply set my locale correctly, and that's it -
/etc/sysconfig/i18n.  However, I can't get Pan to work right, because
even with a ¤ it put's a header saying that this message only contains
iso-8859-1 characters :(

 You've set the correct charset in Evolution, menu Tools - Mail Settings
 - Other ?

Yes, I've set it to Westeuropäisch, Neu (ISO-8859-15)

Besides: Your Evolution also doesn't work right!  Just like all the
other Evolutions I've seen, it incorrectly encodes the ¤ as this in the
Subject:

Euro =?windows-1251?Q?=28=88=29?= in KDE 2.2.2

Well, why Evolution choses a kyrillic charset is beyond me...  If it
want's to chose windows codepage, it should chose windows-1252, as this
is closer to iso-8859-15 than windows-1251.  Anyhow, see the Ximian
bugzilla bugreport.

If you type a ¤ in the subject, do you see a ¤ in the window title, or
is it a square-like or underscore(_)-like character?

 Mozilla Messenger also works great with euro, it even warns you when
 trying to send a message witch characters not supported by the charset
 you've set.

Yep, Mozilla works really well.

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[Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

Hi.

I realize that this might be a configuration issue on my side and thus
off-topic.  If that's the case, I'd like to appologize.

How do I get the ¤ (Euro) character to work in KDE 2.2.2?

I'd like to be able to press AltGr+e to get the Euro key, since this is
the standard to get it.  This works fine in Gnome (most of the time) and
on the console.

In the KDE control center, I've set the fonts to iso-8859-15 and also in
the applications I need Euro support in (ie. Konsole (KDE term), Kword,
Konqueror).  However, when I press AltGr+e in KDE apps, I only get a ?
(question mark).

xev tells me when pressing AltGr+e:

KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x221,
root 0x2c, subw 0x0, time 58237516, (6,5), root:(10,608),
state 0x2010, keycode 26 (keysym 0x20ac, EuroSign), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 characters:  

Pasting a ¤ character most of the time works.  This means (?) that my
fonts have the ¤ character - I'd also want to say this, because Gnome
is able to generate it, and also StarOffice 5.2 works fine.

[root@teich root]# locale
LANG=de
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_TIME=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.ISO-8859-15
LC_PAPER=de
LC_NAME=de
LC_ADDRESS=de
LC_TELEPHONE=de
LC_MEASUREMENT=de
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de
LC_ALL=

When I set the locale to de_DE@euro, KDE still isn't able to generate
the ¤ character.

I'm using libqt2-2.3.1-18mdk and kdebase-2.2.2-13mdk.

What do I have to do to get the Euro character also in KDE applications?

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Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread andre

How do you type the euro without deadkeys?




Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »andre« am 2001-12-27 um 18:16:05 +0100 :
 How do you type the euro without deadkeys?

Hm?  In console/Gnome/Windows I type AltGr+e and the Euro appears right
away.  How's that related to deadkeys?

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Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread Frederik Himpe

On Thu, 2001-12-27 at 09:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I realize that this might be a configuration issue on my side and thus
 off-topic.  If that's the case, I'd like to appologize.
 
 How do I get the ¤ (Euro) character to work in KDE 2.2.2?
 
 I'd like to be able to press AltGr+e to get the Euro key, since this is
 the standard to get it.  This works fine in Gnome (most of the time) and
 on the console.
 
 In the KDE control center, I've set the fonts to iso-8859-15 and also in
 the applications I need Euro support in (ie. Konsole (KDE term), Kword,
 Konqueror).  However, when I press AltGr+e in KDE apps, I only get a ?
 (question mark).

Same here, always a question mark in KDE. My configuration:
[frederik@Jupiter frederik]$ locale
LANG=en
LC_CTYPE=en_BE@euro
LC_NUMERIC=en_BE@euro
LC_TIME=en_BE@euro
LC_COLLATE=en_BE@euro
LC_MONETARY=en_BE@euro
LC_MESSAGES=en_BE@euro
LC_PAPER=en
LC_NAME=en
LC_ADDRESS=en
LC_TELEPHONE=en
LC_MEASUREMENT=en
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en
LC_ALL=

And set to ISO-8859-15 in kcontrol.

Euro works in Evolution (¤) mail client, but in Pan I get that strange
sign which looks like a square with a diagonal line at each of the 4
corners.

And although I don't get a euro sign when pressing Alt-GR+E in a KDE
application, Konqueror renders the euro signs on the Mandrake homepage
perfectly.

Euro and Linux is not yet a perfect combination, it seems :-(

Frederik






Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread andre

Op do 27-12-2001, om 19:21 schreef Alexander Skwar:
 So sprach »andre« am 2001-12-27 um 18:16:05 +0100 :
  How do you type the euro without deadkeys?
 
 Hm?  In console/Gnome/Windows I type AltGr+e and the Euro appears right
 away.  How's that related to deadkeys?
 
 Alexander Skwar

Maybe a stupid question but AltGr is which key?(i know: the right ALT)
us.kmap.gz doesn't recognizes it. And us-latin1.kmap.gz is not usable
because you can't type  without serious problems. So how do you type ¤
(and other strange letters like é) in linux

andré 





Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »andre« am 2001-12-27 um 20:28:44 +0100 :
 Maybe a stupid question but AltGr is which key?(i know: the right ALT)

The key labeled AltGr ;)  Keyboards with US layout lack this key, or
rather: European keyboards have this key.

 because you can't type  without serious problems. So how do you type ¤
 (and other strange letters like é) in linux

Another workaround is Alt+Shift+4 (Alt+$)

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Re: [Cooker] Euro () in KDE 2.2.2

2001-12-27 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Frederik Himpe« am 2001-12-27 um 19:25:25 +0100 :
 Euro works in Evolution (¤) mail client, but in Pan I get that strange
 sign which looks like a square with a diagonal line at each of the 4
 corners.

What you get in Pan is the international currency symbol.  This is,
because you most likely have set a iso-8859-1 charset (I hope *G*).

But that you're able to type the ¤ in Evolution baffles me.  Because
Evolution simply doesn't do anything for me when I type the ¤ in
Evolution - http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17900

 Euro and Linux is not yet a perfect combination, it seems :-(

Well, this is a bug in KDE: http://bugs.kde.org/db/32/32919.html

Gnome works better (now, that's news *G*).

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