Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-30 Thread Kritifile

Peter Ruskin wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 28 June 2001 12:14, civileme wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 June 2001 21:49, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > I started this thread Wed, 20 Jun 2001 and I'm still trying.  I
> > > can't believe it's this difficult.  I made a brand new local mirror
> > > of
> > > sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake/8.0/i586/ using rsync, without exclusions,
> > > on my main machine, and tried installing from network.img floppy
> > > using NFS export.
> > >
> > > The repository was found, 2nd stage install started, used existing
> > > partitions and formatted /.  Selected packages (recommended, no
> > > individual) then the installer crashed:
> > > * reading /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> > > *   done
> > > * segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the install
> > > crashes
> > >
> > > This is reproduceable.  I have a report.bug - can I send it to
> > > someone?
> >
> > Ummm, I have seen that statement many times...  It almost always
> > means one of three things.
> >
> > 1.  Cable to HDD needs removal & reseating or outright replacement.
> >
> Bingo!  I had an old SoundBlaster CD connected to the same cable and, of
> course, it's not really an IDE but a proprietary interface, although it's a
> 40-pin cable.  Funny thing is, it has been working OK in Windows98 and
> Mandrake 7.1 as an IDE CD-ROM.
> 


Strange, I experienced exactly the same crash while doing a text expert
install using CDs. I entered the amount of memory manually (160 MB and I
had no problems apart from the normal total freeze on X installation.
With a graphical install I've never had that message. The graphics
freeze meant resetting, running fsck manually to fix the damage done,
and copying my saved XF86config file. When will Mandrake fix the S3
Virge graphics install freeze? No other distros I've tried have it, and
Mandrake had fixed it for 7.2, now it's back since 8.0 beta 2.
> > 2.  "Hole" in HDD (if you are using WD hard disks you never know till
> > a verify step occurs (and WDs is where this happens from disk based
> > problems)
> >
> > 3.  Yep, like the proggie says, memory.  /images/memtest-x86.bin is
> > your friend.  Just dd it to a floppy and boot with it on your install
> > target.
> >
> That's what I suspected, so I ran memtest-x86.bin all night, all tests,
> without any failures:
> Pentium 166.2MHz
> L1 Cache  8K553.9Mb/sec
> Memory  64M  79.1Mb/sec
> Cacheable   64M
> Thanks for the tips!
> --
>  Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
> Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
> Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
>  Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
> Uptime 4 days 1 hour 46 minutes




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-29 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Thursday 28 June 2001 12:14, civileme wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 21:49, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > I started this thread Wed, 20 Jun 2001 and I'm still trying.  I
> > can't believe it's this difficult.  I made a brand new local mirror
> > of
> > sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake/8.0/i586/ using rsync, without exclusions,
> > on my main machine, and tried installing from network.img floppy
> > using NFS export.
> >
> > The repository was found, 2nd stage install started, used existing
> > partitions and formatted /.  Selected packages (recommended, no
> > individual) then the installer crashed:
> > * reading /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> > *   done
> > * segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the install
> > crashes
> >
> > This is reproduceable.  I have a report.bug - can I send it to
> > someone?
>
> Ummm, I have seen that statement many times...  It almost always
> means one of three things.
>
> 1.  Cable to HDD needs removal & reseating or outright replacement.
>
Bingo!  I had an old SoundBlaster CD connected to the same cable and, of 
course, it's not really an IDE but a proprietary interface, although it's a 
40-pin cable.  Funny thing is, it has been working OK in Windows98 and 
Mandrake 7.1 as an IDE CD-ROM.

> 2.  "Hole" in HDD (if you are using WD hard disks you never know till
> a verify step occurs (and WDs is where this happens from disk based
> problems)
>
> 3.  Yep, like the proggie says, memory.  /images/memtest-x86.bin is
> your friend.  Just dd it to a floppy and boot with it on your install
> target.
>
That's what I suspected, so I ran memtest-x86.bin all night, all tests, 
without any failures:
Pentium 166.2MHz
L1 Cache  8K553.9Mb/sec
Memory  64M  79.1Mb/sec
Cacheable   64M
Thanks for the tips!
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
Uptime 4 days 1 hour 46 minutes




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-28 Thread François Pons

civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You can send me the bug report, but I can already tell you it wasn't 
> reproduceable here, unless you have incompletely described it.  Of 
> course you migh have a heavy load on your NFS server which I did not 
> have here.  And NFS in 8.0 is fragile, thanks to all the reiser 
> patches, which still don't seem to make reiser work as well as we 
> would like.

This should be visible in kernel report part of the bug report.

Thanks Civileme, François.




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-28 Thread civileme

On Wednesday 27 June 2001 21:49, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> I started this thread Wed, 20 Jun 2001 and I'm still trying.  I
> can't believe it's this difficult.  I made a brand new local mirror
> of
> sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake/8.0/i586/ using rsync, without exclusions,
> on my main machine, and tried installing from network.img floppy
> using NFS export.
>
> The repository was found, 2nd stage install started, used existing
> partitions and formatted /.  Selected packages (recommended, no
> individual) then the installer crashed:
> * reading /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> * done
> * segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the install
> crashes
>
> This is reproduceable.  I have a report.bug - can I send it to
> someone?

Ummm, I have seen that statement many times...  It almost always 
means one of three things.  

1.  Cable to HDD needs removal & reseating or outright replacement.

2.  "Hole" in HDD (if you are using WD hard disks you never know till 
a verify step occurs (and WDs is where this happens from disk based 
problems)

3.  Yep, like the proggie says, memory.  /images/memtest-x86.bin is 
your friend.  Just dd it to a floppy and boot with it on your install 
target.

You can send me the bug report, but I can already tell you it wasn't 
reproduceable here, unless you have incompletely described it.  Of 
course you migh have a heavy load on your NFS server which I did not 
have here.  And NFS in 8.0 is fragile, thanks to all the reiser 
patches, which still don't seem to make reiser work as well as we 
would like.

Civileme
QA Team




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-28 Thread François Pons

Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I started this thread Wed, 20 Jun 2001 and I'm still trying.  I can't believe 
> it's this difficult.  I made a brand new local mirror of 
> sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake/8.0/i586/ using rsync, without exclusions, on my 
> main machine, and tried installing from network.img floppy using NFS export.
> 
> The repository was found, 2nd stage install started, used existing partitions 
> and formatted /.  Selected packages (recommended, no individual) then the 
> installer crashed:
> * reading /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
> * done
> * segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the install crashes
> 
> This is reproduceable.  I have a report.bug - can I send it to someone?

Yes, send it to me.

I suppose the computer has enough memory ?

François.




[Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-27 Thread Peter Ruskin

I started this thread Wed, 20 Jun 2001 and I'm still trying.  I can't believe 
it's this difficult.  I made a brand new local mirror of 
sunsite.uio.no::Mandrake/8.0/i586/ using rsync, without exclusions, on my 
main machine, and tried installing from network.img floppy using NFS export.

The repository was found, 2nd stage install started, used existing partitions 
and formatted /.  Selected packages (recommended, no individual) then the 
installer crashed:
* reading /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
*   done
* segmentation fault: seems like memory is missing as the install crashes

This is reproduceable.  I have a report.bug - can I send it to someone?
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
 Uptime 2 days 5 hours 1 minute




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> Nice one Guillaume.  /pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2 was 
> not globally executable.  

[...]

> Did `service nfs restart` and tried again - but with same result!

The fact that 'install2' was not executable is not a good sign. Probably
other signs are missing or with bad rights.

I suggest to re-mirror correctly the whole volume.


PS : please could you remove quoted text that is unneeded

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-20 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Wednesday 20 June 2001 16:50, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
> > 2.  Attempted install from network.img floppy using NFS /pub export.
> > Result...
> > Console 1:  error in exec of stage 2 :-(
> > FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: Permission denied
> > I can't recover from this.
> > You may reboot your system.
> > Console 3:  found the Linux-Mandrake Installation, good news!
> > Stage 1: disconnecting life support systems.
>
> Either your /pub volume doesn't contain the files or the permissions
> (read, exec) are not set correctly. I need /usr/bin/runinstall2 from the
> install tree; here's a valid one:
>
> [gc@obiwan /tmp] ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2
> lrwxrwxrwx1 gc   gc  8 Jun 12 00:32
> /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 -> install2* [gc@obiwan /tmp]
> ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2
> lrwxrwxrwx1 gc   gc 21 Jun 12 00:32
> /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2 -> perl-install/install2*
> [gc@obiwan /tmp] ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2
> -rwxrwxr-x1 gc   gc186 Jun 12 00:32
> /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2*
>
Nice one Guillaume.  /pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2 was 
not globally executable.  

Corrected - I now have...
[20:01 peter@penguin:/]$ ll /pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2
lrwxrwxrwx1 peterpeter   8 Jun 19 01:22 
/pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 -> install2*
[20:02 peter@penguin:/]$ ll /pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2
lrwxrwxrwx1 peterpeter  21 Jun 19 01:22 
/pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2 -> perl-install/install2*
[20:02 peter@penguin:/]$ ll 
/pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2
-rwxrwxr-x1 peterpeter 186 Jun 19 01:22 
/pub/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2*

Did `service nfs restart` and tried again - but with same result!
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
Uptime 2 hours 1 minute




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-20 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Wednesday 20 June 2001 01:13, Pixel wrote:
> Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > 1.  Copied local mirror of 8.0 (from which I successfully installed to my
> > main machine) to a FAT32 partition on the 2nd box, using Samba, and
> > attempted install from hd.img floppy.
> > Result...
> > "Died at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_gtk.pm line 430.
>
> this happens if you go in the individual package selection tree, doesn't
> it? isn't there more error messages before this on console 3? it should try
> to extract the header in /mnt/tmp/headers...
>
> and what happens if you choose no individual package selection?

Thanks for your quick response Pixel.  I had suspected it may have something 
to do with copying the mirror to a DOS partition (symlinks and all), so I 
repartitioned and copied the mirror to a new local ext2 partition.  Then I 
tried again, without individual package selection, as you advised.
Result...
Console 1:  Entering step `Install system'
memory alloc (3959425700 bytes) returned NULL.
install exited abnormally :-(

Why would it need 3.9GB?
Planned install partitions:
/   7742MB
swap258MB
/home   500MB
/root   100MB
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
   Uptime 0 hours 48 minutes




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> 2.Attempted install from network.img floppy using NFS /pub export.
> Result...
> Console 1:error in exec of stage 2 :-(
>   FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: Permission denied
>   I can't recover from this.
>   You may reboot your system.
> Console 3:found the Linux-Mandrake Installation, good news!
>   Stage 1: disconnecting life support systems.

Either your /pub volume doesn't contain the files or the permissions
(read, exec) are not set correctly. I need /usr/bin/runinstall2 from the
install tree; here's a valid one:

[gc@obiwan /tmp] ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 
lrwxrwxrwx1 gc   gc  8 Jun 12 00:32 
/export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/runinstall2 -> install2*
[gc@obiwan /tmp] ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2 
lrwxrwxrwx1 gc   gc 21 Jun 12 00:32 
/export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/install2 -> perl-install/install2*
[gc@obiwan /tmp] ll /export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2
-rwxrwxr-x1 gc   gc186 Jun 12 00:32 
/export/Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/install2*

 
> /var/log/user.log on first machine reports:
> Jun 19 22:27:17 penguin rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 
> 192.168.74.9:610 for /pub (/pub) 
> 
> I can't find anything in /var/log on the first machine referring to 
> "Permission denied", so it looks as if this is happening at the client end.

Works here.

 
> I really don't know what to try next and would be greatful for any 
> suggestions.

Tell us what's going on concerning upper suggestions.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-19 Thread Pixel

Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> 1.Copied local mirror of 8.0 (from which I successfully installed to my main 
> machine) to a FAT32 partition on the 2nd box, using Samba, and attempted 
> install from hd.img floppy.
> Result...
> "Died at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_gtk.pm line 430.

this happens if you go in the individual package selection tree, doesn't it?
isn't there more error messages before this on console 3? it should try to
extract the header in /mnt/tmp/headers...

and what happens if you choose no individual package selection?






[Cooker] Help needed with 8.0 install

2001-06-19 Thread Peter Ruskin

I have been trying to install Linux-Mandrake 8.0 on a second computer at home 
for some time now.  It's a P-166 64MB RAM with an old SB CDROM that can't 
read burned CDs.  So...

1.  Copied local mirror of 8.0 (from which I successfully installed to my main 
machine) to a FAT32 partition on the 2nd box, using Samba, and attempted 
install from hd.img floppy.
Result...
"Died at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps_gtk.pm line 430.
  ...propagated."
OKing this dialog sent me back to disks selection and OKing that gives error 
"no hdlists found"

2.  Attempted install from network.img floppy using NFS /pub export.
Result...
Console 1:  error in exec of stage 2 :-(
FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: Permission denied
I can't recover from this.
You may reboot your system.
Console 3:  found the Linux-Mandrake Installation, good news!
Stage 1: disconnecting life support systems.

/var/log/user.log on first machine reports:
Jun 19 22:27:17 penguin rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 
192.168.74.9:610 for /pub (/pub) 

I can't find anything in /var/log on the first machine referring to 
"Permission denied", so it looks as if this is happening at the client end.

I really don't know what to try next and would be greatful for any 
suggestions.

Regards,
Peter
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
   Uptime 10 hours 49 minutes