Re: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
Andrej Borsenkow wrote: Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? i don't think so but i believe that the folks at Ximian works on that... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel I'm using Netscape to connect to our Exchange server - seems to work just great. Of course this box is setup with samba. What a nice mess ... Netscape is not Exchange client and SAMBA has nothing to do with it at all :) The best case is if admins allow IMAP access. If the problem is security - at least fetchmail supports NTLM authentication so that passwords are encrypted (really encrypted, not just obfuscated) the same way as normal NT workstation does. I fetch mail from Exchange onto Unix server using fetchmail. I have also seen rumors about fetchmail being (having been) ported to Cygwin. I belive, there are some more IMAP clients that support NTLM. But what is actually wrong with OL2000? It is not just as bad; is just because it comes from Microsoft? The only thing I find wrong with OL2000 is that it won't run on *nix. :) -andrej This is probably not the list to be discussing this on, as it really doesn't deal with cooker itself, but since the thread has been started: AFAIK there are no Exchange clients for Linux that don't work without some type of intermediary server. Bynari Trademail has an exchange client for *nix, but you have to purchase it, and I don't think the client works standalone. HP Openmail, now defunct, had a client that worked with Exchange except you also had to have an Openmail server. If your Exchange admins have not turned SMTP or IMAP off you can retrieve your mail with any pop/imap client. This does not allow you to do any calendar, global address list, proprietary Exchange stuff, however. I believe the mail client in StarOffice was supposed to work with Exchange, but I think it actually used IMAP and not the Exchange protocols, haven't looked at it for a couple of years, may be worth investigating. You could ask your admins to enable Outlook Web Access, then you have slightly more functionality than imap through a browser. Otherwise I would suggest VMware or some other emulation program to actually run Outlook. It would be nice if *nix based desktops had a full access exchange client, but I don't see it happening anytime soon, if ever. - Pete
RE: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? i don't think so but i believe that the folks at Ximian works on that... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel I'm using Netscape to connect to our Exchange server - seems to work just great. Of course this box is setup with samba. What a nice mess ... Netscape is not Exchange client and SAMBA has nothing to do with it at all :) The best case is if admins allow IMAP access. If the problem is security - at least fetchmail supports NTLM authentication so that passwords are encrypted (really encrypted, not just obfuscated) the same way as normal NT workstation does. I fetch mail from Exchange onto Unix server using fetchmail. I have also seen rumors about fetchmail being (having been) ported to Cygwin. I belive, there are some more IMAP clients that support NTLM. But what is actually wrong with OL2000? It is not just as bad; is just because it comes from Microsoft? -andrej
Re: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
I guess Outlook 2000 is not too bad. I had the M$ course on it yesterday. It is absolutely riddled with little bug'lets and inconsistencies, which, although not usually affecting useage, did make me laugh ! The reason I don't want to use it is that I sit in front of my Linux box all day coding etc.. I a) have to remember and b) then switch to my Window$ box to read my e-mails. Even if I can read my e-mails from Linux, how can I set up meetings or respond to invites or see which other people are free when etc.. Moreover I would rather use something like Evolution than a browser ! Our sys. admins. have told me that not 'all' the functionality is available through the web interface and, in true M$ style, even less unless you use IE !!! Sigh ! I have hunted at the Ximian site but can find no mention of Exchange except to say that Evolution will support the vCalendar and iCalendar protocols and M$ will just have to buck their ideas up and adopt propper standards. I would just like to wish Ximian all the best in the current endeavors !!! :-) Owen On Thursday 05 April 2001 6:19 am, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? i don't think so but i believe that the folks at Ximian works on that... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel I'm using Netscape to connect to our Exchange server - seems to work just great. Of course this box is setup with samba. What a nice mess ... Netscape is not Exchange client and SAMBA has nothing to do with it at all :) The best case is if admins allow IMAP access. If the problem is security - at least fetchmail supports NTLM authentication so that passwords are encrypted (really encrypted, not just obfuscated) the same way as normal NT workstation does. I fetch mail from Exchange onto Unix server using fetchmail. I have also seen rumors about fetchmail being (having been) ported to Cygwin. I belive, there are some more IMAP clients that support NTLM. But what is actually wrong with OL2000? It is not just as bad; is just because it comes from Microsoft? -andrej
[Cooker] M$ Exchange server
Hello, Our company has just moved over to an Exchange server and the sys admins are being very unfriendly when it comes to giving access to things other than Outbreak 2000 !! Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? Information on this subject appears to be very thin on the ground ! I've come accross things like vCalendar and iCalendar but it appears that M$ don't seem very willing to support these standards (no surprises there then !). Evolution has appointments etc. but will this interface with Exchange (it may well do, but there is no help nor man page with the current Evolution !!!). Thanks, Owen
Re: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
OS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? i don't think so but i believe that the folks at Ximian works on that... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel
Re: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
ChmoI'm uel Boudjnah wrote: OS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? i don't think so but i believe that the folks at Ximian works on that... -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel I'm using Netscape to connect to our Exchange server - seems to work just great. Of course this box is setup with samba.
Re: [Cooker] M$ Exchange server
OS wrote: Hello, Our company has just moved over to an Exchange server and the sys admins are being very unfriendly when it comes to giving access to things other than Outbreak 2000 !! Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? http://www.bynari.net/Products/products.html Look for TradeXCH as the client. AFAIK, you have to buy it, but at least it isn't Outlook... John
[Cooker] M$ Exchange server
OS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Our company has just moved over to an Exchange server and the sys admins are being very unfriendly when it comes to giving access to things other than Outbreak 2000 !! Does anyone know if there is a Linux Exchange client out there any where ? Information on this subject appears to be very thin on the ground ! I've come accross things like vCalendar and iCalendar but it appears that M$ don't seem very willing to support these standards (no surprises there then !). Evolution has appointments etc. but will this interface with Exchange (it may well do, but there is no help nor man page with the current Evolution !!!). Until now, I never found any tools to use the calendar/apointments nor the Public Folders. I can only retrieve the mail with IMAP using Netscape, Mozilla or Evolution. I actually missed few meetings because of that :-| =-= kk1 Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
