Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 Wishlist Message Repost

2002-06-07 Thread Simone Riccio


and i would recommend a cool splash screen for kde3! just like other 
distros do!
Tom Badran wrote:

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>On Friday 07 Jun 2002 5:25 am, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
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5.) What about a QT/KDE-based MCC? [...] after all KDE is used by many
more people then GNOME).


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>I think this should be a QT not KDE as qt apps look good under kde (especially 
>qt3) and users of any window manager except kde will probably not want ti 
>have to install kdelibs as well as QT, much like MCC not requiring gnome 
>rpms, just the gtk ones. I believe this then also makes it relatively simply 
>to integrate MCC into the kdecontrol center for KDE users, and still have it 
>as a stand alone application for users of other window managers.
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how about setting up
TiMidity as a daemon (this can be done if TiMidity's compile switches
are set correctly)  when Harddrake finds a card does not have MIDI
synth support?


>>>not a bad idea I think, perhaps with a timidity-server package
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>>  Thank-you. I think this would really makes things easier.
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>Definately a very good idea.
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10.) What about including the Mandrake documentation in docbook xml
like KHelpCenter uses (IIRC, I think Gnome Help Center may use it too)


>>>Yes, for gnome 2 the help system (Yelp) will use docbook XML (gnome 1
>>>used docbook SGML and made HTML on install or packaging).
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>>  Even better then. This would take care of both Gnome and KDE.
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>Again, a very sound idea.
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>I also think it would be a good idea to include more kde (and no reason not 
>for other wms as well)  themes and icons (liquid, crystal icons etc) as 
>optional packages. Currently these have to be fetched manually, which is 
>nowhere near as pleaent as a 'urpmi package'. Obviously some of the great 
>themes might have liscence problems, but the ones that dont would be great 
>additions.
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>Just a few thoughts
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>Tom
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 Wishlist Message Repost

2002-06-07 Thread Tom Badran

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On Friday 07 Jun 2002 5:25 am, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> > > 5.) What about a QT/KDE-based MCC? [...] after all KDE is used by many
> > > more people then GNOME).

I think this should be a QT not KDE as qt apps look good under kde (especially 
qt3) and users of any window manager except kde will probably not want ti 
have to install kdelibs as well as QT, much like MCC not requiring gnome 
rpms, just the gtk ones. I believe this then also makes it relatively simply 
to integrate MCC into the kdecontrol center for KDE users, and still have it 
as a stand alone application for users of other window managers.

> > > how about setting up
> > > TiMidity as a daemon (this can be done if TiMidity's compile switches
> > > are set correctly)  when Harddrake finds a card does not have MIDI
> > > synth support?
> >
> > not a bad idea I think, perhaps with a timidity-server package
>
>   Thank-you. I think this would really makes things easier.

Definately a very good idea.

> > > 10.) What about including the Mandrake documentation in docbook xml
> > > like KHelpCenter uses (IIRC, I think Gnome Help Center may use it too)
> >
> > Yes, for gnome 2 the help system (Yelp) will use docbook XML (gnome 1
> > used docbook SGML and made HTML on install or packaging).
>
>   Even better then. This would take care of both Gnome and KDE.

Again, a very sound idea.

I also think it would be a good idea to include more kde (and no reason not 
for other wms as well)  themes and icons (liquid, crystal icons etc) as 
optional packages. Currently these have to be fetched manually, which is 
nowhere near as pleaent as a 'urpmi package'. Obviously some of the great 
themes might have liscence problems, but the ones that dont would be great 
additions.

Just a few thoughts

Tom
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[Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 Wishlist Message Repost

2002-06-07 Thread Timothy R. Butler

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Hi Everyone,
  Due to ISP problems I was unable to post this message to cooker, however, 
now things should be back to normal. :-)

  -Tim

> > 5.) What about a QT/KDE-based MCC? [...] after all KDE is used by many
> > more people then GNOME).
>
> Where did you get statistics for this?  My own feeling is that in North
> America it's the reverse, with KDE more widely used in much of Europe.
> But, SuSE is the main Linux distribution there, whereas it's pretty
> uncommon here in North America.  For example, I see Mandrake sometimes
> in bookstores, and Red Hat often, have never (or maybe once) seen SuSE.

  I think while RedHat is dominate over all, if you look at sales it is not 
unusual to see Mandrake or SuSE eat about 50% of the sales in a given release 
month. Beings that both of these distros default of KDE, it stands to reason 
that the majority using those distros use KDE. 

  Also if LinuxCounter stats are even partially accurate, Mandrake Linux holds 
about 20% of the Linux pie, with SuSE holding 11% or so. All this seems to 
point again to above conclusions.

  Finally, if you consider every major commercial distribution other then 
RedHat uses KDE as the default - Mandrake, SuSE, Lycoris, Conectiva, 
Turbolinux, Xandros, Lindows, HancomLinux, etc. The only distros other then 
RedHat that do not would be Debian and Slackware, and there is good 
indication that many of the users of those distros also use KDE.

  In the end, I generally hear that KDE usage ranges from 50%-80% of the total 
Desktop Environment users. There is no reason to doubt this, since KDE was 
usable several years before GNOME, and most people use either KDE or GNOME.

  BTW, RE: distros at bookstores. I've found the most commonly stocked one is 
Mandrake, but Borders generally has SuSE also - but not RedHat in my 
experience (the local Borders had RH when they first opened, but not after 
that).

> Consider this a voice for liking blue and yellow :-)
> But I don't use KDE, and a small part of that is the percieved (by me)
> ugliness of its icons, so it's all subjective.

  If that is the case, there are plenty of solutions for that. :-) If you look 
at kde-look.org you can find Slick icons (very different), iKons (improved 
default-style), Conectiva Crystal (sorta bright mixture of iKons/XP/Aqua), 
and there is even Gorilla a port of Ximian's icons to KDE.

> > 9.) How about including ALSA 0.9x in the next release,
>
> done

  Great. I didn't know that... guess I should have checked cooker before 
commenting?

> > how about setting up
> > TiMidity as a daemon (this can be done if TiMidity's compile switches are
> > set correctly)  when Harddrake finds a card does not have MIDI synth
> > support?
>
> not a bad idea I think, perhaps with a timidity-server package

  Thank-you. I think this would really makes things easier.

> > 10.) What about including the Mandrake documentation in docbook xml like
> > KHelpCenter uses (IIRC, I think Gnome Help Center may use it too)
>
> Yes, for gnome 2 the help system (Yelp) will use docbook XML (gnome 1
> used docbook SGML and made HTML on install or packaging).

  Even better then. This would take care of both Gnome and KDE.

  -Tim

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