[Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
Hi! In recent cookers, I'm missing kups and also qtcups. What happend to them? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 6 hours 45 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:55:59 +0100 Till Kamppeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote these words: You pronounce it qtcups, but you type kprinter, and instead of typing kups you start the K Control Center (kcontrol) and go to System/Printing Manager to get to the new KDE Printing Manager. The development of qtcups and kups is discontinued. The author integrated these tools into KDE as kprinter and the KDE Printing Manager. These tools have even basic functionality for LPRng users now. Till Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi! In recent cookers, I'm missing kups and also qtcups. What happend to them? Alexander Skwar Till What is your recommendation then for those who never use KDE or gnome for that matter.Installs with necessary printer programs drivers etc has not always been intuitive and at times would involve searching down the log lists of rpms to find various missing elements to actually enable proper printing...I have always had good luck with the results of your hard work but am now a little confused as to what to do/look for and suggest to others installing Mandrake without KDE/Gnome yet wanting full printing and GIMP functionality. !!?? Thanks William Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak...
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:45:17 -0900 William Bouterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:55:59 +0100 Till Kamppeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote these words: You pronounce it qtcups, but you type kprinter, and instead of typing kups you start the K Control Center (kcontrol) and go to System/Printing Manager to get to the new KDE Printing Manager. The development of qtcups and kups is discontinued. The author integrated these tools into KDE as kprinter and the KDE Printing Manager. These tools have even basic functionality for LPRng users now. What is your recommendation then for those who never use KDE or gnome for that matter.Installs with necessary printer programs drivers etc has not always been intuitive and at times would involve searching down the log lists of rpms to find various missing elements to actually enable proper printing...I have always had good luck with the results of your hard work but am now a little confused as to what to do/look for and suggest to others installing Mandrake without KDE/Gnome yet wanting full printing and GIMP functionality. !!?? Unless you want to stick strictly with cups what is wrong with using lpr? Charles
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
»Charles A Edwards« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 14:32:29 -0500 : Unless you want to stick strictly with cups what is wrong with using lpr? Granted, I haven't had a close look at lpr in Mandrake, but what I like so very, very much about cups are tools like xpp or kprinter. These tools allow to easily set options for just one printout. Is this possible with lpr? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 12 hours 14 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
»William Bouterse« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 09:45:17 -0900 : What is your recommendation then for those who never use KDE or gnome for that matter.Installs with necessary printer programs printerdrake is GUI independent and also xpp doesn't require any of the gnome-libs and/or Qt libs. A big plus of printerdrake is that install missing rpm packages for the chosen printing system. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 12 hours 10 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:44:42 +0100 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: »Charles A Edwards« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 14:32:29 -0500 : Unless you want to stick strictly with cups what is wrong with using lpr? Granted, I haven't had a close look at lpr in Mandrake, but what I like so very, very much about cups are tools like xpp or kprinter. These tools allow to easily set options for just one printout. Is this possible with lpr? Hell. It been awhile since I have used it. But from what I remember the print control was equal or better to that offered in cups. Granted it has been a year, it is the default printting system for RH which is where my only experiance with it comes. My problem with it is that it is kinda hard to to share printers using Cups network when 1 system and printer is set for lpr. Charles
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
»Charles A Edwards« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 15:13:22 -0500 : Hell. It been awhile since I have used it. But from what I remember the print control was equal or better to that offered in cups. What are you talking about? cups doesn't offer any (GUI) print control by itself. It relies on external programs like xpp, kprinter... Granted it has been a year, it is the default printting system for RH which is where my only experiance with it comes. My problem with it is that it is kinda hard to to share printers using Cups network when 1 system and printer is set for lpr. ? cups is primarily a printer server running ipp. So you can set your clients to connect to http://server:631/printers/PrinterName. This also works in Windows. Further, there's a mini-lpd printer daemon built in to cups which allows printer clients to connect using lpr protocol. To enable it, do chkconfig cups-lpd on. Also CUPS itself is able to connect to remote printers using lpr. In case you haven't noticed - I very much like cups ;) Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 13 hours 0 minutes
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:34:01 +0100 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: »Charles A Edwards« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 15:13:22 -0500 : Hell. It been awhile since I have used it. But from what I remember the print control was equal or better to that offered in cups. What are you talking about? cups doesn't offer any (GUI) print control by itself. It relies on external programs like xpp, kprinter... I was not meaning tha cup had gui control, only that if using lpr tools of a like nature were available. Granted it has been a year, it is the default printting system for RH which is where my only experiance with it comes. My problem with it is that it is kinda hard to to share printers using Cups network when 1 system and printer is set for lpr. ? cups is primarily a printer server running ipp. So you can set your clients to connect to http://server:631/printers/PrinterName. This also works in Windows. Further, there's a mini-lpd printer daemon built in to cups which allows printer clients to connect using lpr protocol. To enable it, do chkconfig cups-lpd on. Also CUPS itself is able to connect to remote printers using lpr. In case you haven't noticed - I very much like cups ;) I also like cups. I have 6 systems using it sharing an inkjet and laser printer. I was only offering lpr as a suggestion If you were no longer able to use cups as you wished. Charles
Re: [Cooker] Missing apps: kups, qtcups
On Wednesday 13 Feb 2002 21:14, Till Kamppeter wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: »Charles A Edwards« sagte am 2002-02-13 um 15:13:22 -0500 : Hell. It been awhile since I have used it. But from what I remember the print control was equal or better to that offered in cups. What are you talking about? cups doesn't offer any (GUI) print control by itself. It relies on external programs like xpp, kprinter... CUPS itself offers the web interface on http://localhost:631/ which allows to add and configure printer queues, manage jobs and show all CUPS documentation. The KDE Print Manager has more features and printerdrake gives full support for three spoolers, but the web interface allows you at least to comfortably handle CUPS queues and jobs. Till I really liked CUPS **before** the KDE Print Manager arrived. Now in KDE it is only kedit that honours the lpotions settings. All other KDE apps add a blank line after every text line. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 7 hours 29 minutes.
