Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Hoyt wrote: > > Do you recognize OS/2, BeOS, DOS, and so on? Other OS's as well? I'd > > like to know because if it does, I'll add that info to my review. > > > > It recognized the BeOS on my system, but assigned it the grey color. > > Booting to BeOS was not avilable as a LILO option, but not difficult to set > up by hand although I use the BeOS bootman. Cool. Thanx for the info. Vincent Danen, ICQ: 54924721 . telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Freezer Burn BBS Linux Information and other Goodies at Freezer Burn: www.freezer-burn.org
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
Kaixo! On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 05:45:22AM +0100, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: >> I like the new icons in KDE, but did someone forget to update the menus >> for GNOME? Stuff like RPMdrake and DrakConf aren't in there at all, and >> neither are some of the icons that are available on the KDE desktop. I >> think GNOME should have those as well. > > Pablo has already committed the new stuff for gnome on the cvs they > only wait a make rpm to comme up on mirror (and the agreement of our > Q&A). I added icons for the desktop; but not Gnome 'foot menu' entries... I'll add them too. -- Ki ça vos våye bén, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > > > i automagically recognize the bootload (blank,windoze,pqmagic,lilo...). > > Do you recognize OS/2, BeOS, DOS, and so on? Other OS's as well? I'd > like to know because if it does, I'll add that info to my review. Here is what i recognise (and how) : my @MBR_signatures = ( [ 'empty', 0, "\0\0\0\0" ], [ 'lilo', 0x6, "LILO" ], [ 'osbs', 0x2, "OSBS" ], #- http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de/~wolf/os-bs.html [ 'pqmagic', 0xef, "PQV" ], [ 'BootStar', 0x130, "BootStar:" ], [ 'DocsBoot', 0x148, 'DocsBoot' ], [ 'system_commander', 0x1ad, "SYSCMNDRSYS" ], [ 'Be Os', 0x24, 'Boot Manager' ], [ 'TimO', 0, 'IBM Thinkpad hibernation partition' ], [ 'os2', 0x1c2, "\xA" ], [ 'dos', 0xa0, "\x25\x03\x4E\x02\xCD\x13" ], [ 'dos', 0x60, "\xBB\x00\x7C\xB8\x01\x02\x57\xCD\x13\x5F\x73\x0C\x33\xC0\xCD\x13" ], #- nt's [ 'freebsd', 0xC0, "\x00\x30\xE4\xCD\x16\xCD\x19\xBB\x07\x00\xB4" ], [ 'dummy', 0xAC, "\x0E\xB3\x07\x56\xCD\x10\x5E\xEB" ], #- caldera? [ 'ranish', 0x100, "\x6A\x10\xB4\x42\x8B\xF4\xCD\x13\x8B\xE5\x73" ], ); but all i do is default onMbr to member($type, qw(dos dummy lilo empty)) that way, in Recommended, the MBR is used if it was dos/empty/lilo or dummy before. if there is system_commander for example, i install on the boot sector, that's all. You have to configure your boot loader to tell it to look at that partition (unless it is smart enough to detect the change) > > > one thing i don't know is wether an existing lilo should overwritten in > > Recommended. The problem with lilo is that is very hard to take the existing > > configuration and add new configuration to it. > > Well, as it stands right now, it overwrites the existing lilo. Would be > nice to be prompted to do so if it finds an existing lilo, but I can > understand how "merging" the two would be a little difficult... > little is not the good word, very is :) cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
On 24 Dec 1999, Pixel wrote: > > You can switch back and forth? Hmmm... I didn't notice that. Thanks for > > the tip. I'll have to try it again (makes for a better review). > > you can also switch to Cutomized which ask about lilo setup, but has less weird > options. Yeah, I took the recommended route for my review (I'd be using expert for myself) because that's what most newcomers to Linux would use. > > > that because you are in the recommended install, a newcomer to linux > > > has not a existing lilo configuration. > > > > I kinda figured that was the reason for it. > > > > i automagically recognize the bootload (blank,windoze,pqmagic,lilo...). Do you recognize OS/2, BeOS, DOS, and so on? Other OS's as well? I'd like to know because if it does, I'll add that info to my review. > one thing i don't know is wether an existing lilo should overwritten in > Recommended. The problem with lilo is that is very hard to take the existing > configuration and add new configuration to it. Well, as it stands right now, it overwrites the existing lilo. Would be nice to be prompted to do so if it finds an existing lilo, but I can understand how "merging" the two would be a little difficult... Vincent Danen, ICQ: 54924721 . telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Freezer Burn BBS Linux Information and other Goodies at Freezer Burn: www.freezer-burn.org
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
- Original Message - From: Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results > On 24 Dec 1999, Pixel wrote: > > > Do you recognize OS/2, BeOS, DOS, and so on? Other OS's as well? I'd > like to know because if it does, I'll add that info to my review. > It recognized the BeOS on my system, but assigned it the grey color. Booting to BeOS was not avilable as a LILO option, but not difficult to set up by hand although I use the BeOS bootman.
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 24 Dec 1999, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > > > I didn't like the auto-LILO config. Is there a way we can have it test if > > > a previous version of LILO is installed? My system is multi-boot between > > > > on recommended install you have lilo auto setup, but you can switch > > back to expert with the button on the right of the screen and have a > > customized lilo install (a really one). > > You can switch back and forth? Hmmm... I didn't notice that. Thanks for > the tip. I'll have to try it again (makes for a better review). you can also switch to Cutomized which ask about lilo setup, but has less weird options. > > > > Win98, Mandrake 6.1, and the new 7.0, but it wiped out my original > > > LILO config. Not a huge deal, but annoying anyways. I did like how > > > it auto-added Win98 to the boot menu, however. > > > > that because you are in the recommended install, a newcomer to linux > > has not a existing lilo configuration. > > I kinda figured that was the reason for it. > i automagically recognize the bootload (blank,windoze,pqmagic,lilo...). one thing i don't know is wether an existing lilo should overwritten in Recommended. The problem with lilo is that is very hard to take the existing configuration and add new configuration to it.
Re: [Cooker] Oxygen results
On 24 Dec 1999, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > I didn't like the auto-LILO config. Is there a way we can have it test if > > a previous version of LILO is installed? My system is multi-boot between > > on recommended install you have lilo auto setup, but you can switch > back to expert with the button on the right of the screen and have a > customized lilo install (a really one). You can switch back and forth? Hmmm... I didn't notice that. Thanks for the tip. I'll have to try it again (makes for a better review). > > Win98, Mandrake 6.1, and the new 7.0, but it wiped out my original > > LILO config. Not a huge deal, but annoying anyways. I did like how > > it auto-added Win98 to the boot menu, however. > > that because you are in the recommended install, a newcomer to linux > has not a existing lilo configuration. I kinda figured that was the reason for it. > > What happened to WindowMaker on the picklist in XDM or KDM or whatever *DM > > loads an X session? WindowMaker is gone, and so is Xfce? I'm sure > > WindowMaker was installed... Also, can we have a seperate selection for > > Enlightenment? I'd like to be able to load it without having to load > > GNOME if possible (and I'm sure others would too) since E is becoming more > > and more efficient as a stand-alone WM without needing GNOME underneath > > it. > > Sound like a bug from me, give me until tomorrow and i'll fix > this. Did you have used a mirror or the iso ? Mirrored from ftp.sunet.se. I grabbed it before any of the ISO's were out. > > I also think draksec needs to have some explanation of the security > > levels. Low/Medium/High don't explain very much. What's the difference > > between them? I think there should be either a popup window explaining > > the differences or some kind of help button to do so. I went thru and > > selected all three at different times and it never told me what was > > different on the system for any of them. > > Camille work on this. Awesome. > > I like the new icons in KDE, but did someone forget to update the menus > > for GNOME? Stuff like RPMdrake and DrakConf aren't in there at all, and > > neither are some of the icons that are available on the KDE desktop. I > > think GNOME should have those as well. > > Pablo has already committed the new stuff for gnome on the cvs they > only wait a make rpm to comme up on mirror (and the agreement of our > Q&A). Good stuff! That was my only beef with the GNOME stuff (although I do think you should put Enlightenment in there alone as a login option in KDM). > > All in all, I really like it! The install was nice and fast, and the > > majority of stuff seems to work pretty good other than those issues > > mentioned above. Didn't go into it too deep, but those are just surface > > observations. Keep up the good work guys! > > Cool, thanks for your report. No no... thank *you* for what you guys are doing... =) Only reaffirms why Mandrake is my favourite distro... =) Vincent Danen, ICQ: 54924721 . telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Freezer Burn BBS Linux Information and other Goodies at Freezer Burn: www.freezer-burn.org
[Cooker] Oxygen results
I'd first like to say wow... Drakx looks awesome! Works very nice too! I have a few observations, however. I did a hd install using gi_hd.img on a PII-350 with 64MB RAM. Drakx worked like a champ, everything worked perfect for the install except it skipped my SCSI selection (maybe because I didn't tell it SCSI when I was in the partitioning screen?). Went back and selected it and it worked good. I chose the Recommended installation method because I'm writing a review on Mandrake 7.0 and thought it would be good for new-comers from Windows (which, I'm assuming, is the target for the Recommended install anyways). I think you need to put a network setup in Drakx... reason being, when I went to setup the network later (I use DHCP on a cable modem), I couldn't use it because neither dhcpcd nor pump were installed. I think these either need to be installed by default in the Recommended install or we need to have a network setup so that they can be selected for install based on what the user needs. I didn't like the auto-LILO config. Is there a way we can have it test if a previous version of LILO is installed? My system is multi-boot between Win98, Mandrake 6.1, and the new 7.0, but it wiped out my original LILO config. Not a huge deal, but annoying anyways. I did like how it auto-added Win98 to the boot menu, however. Not sure if this is somewhat related to me going back to select a SCSI card after the partitioning, but it didn't make a mount point for my VFAT SCSI drive. It made mount points for both the CD-ROM and CDRW, and the external SCSI ZIP drive, however, which was cool. No mount points for other ext2 partitions tho? Shouldn't they be in there, maybe done the same way as the DOS_hda1, etc. mount points? Something like ext2_hdc1 and so on? What happened to WindowMaker on the picklist in XDM or KDM or whatever *DM loads an X session? WindowMaker is gone, and so is Xfce? I'm sure WindowMaker was installed... Also, can we have a seperate selection for Enlightenment? I'd like to be able to load it without having to load GNOME if possible (and I'm sure others would too) since E is becoming more and more efficient as a stand-alone WM without needing GNOME underneath it. RPMdrake is cool, but I was confused with the target systems. I tried to add another cdrom for RPMs, and it just used cdrom_1 and didn't specify a path. I've got 2 CDROMs here, so it could be either one, or does it do it automatically? Why isn't there a help button in RPMdrake to give help on things like that? I also think draksec needs to have some explanation of the security levels. Low/Medium/High don't explain very much. What's the difference between them? I think there should be either a popup window explaining the differences or some kind of help button to do so. I went thru and selected all three at different times and it never told me what was different on the system for any of them. I like the new icons in KDE, but did someone forget to update the menus for GNOME? Stuff like RPMdrake and DrakConf aren't in there at all, and neither are some of the icons that are available on the KDE desktop. I think GNOME should have those as well. All in all, I really like it! The install was nice and fast, and the majority of stuff seems to work pretty good other than those issues mentioned above. Didn't go into it too deep, but those are just surface observations. Keep up the good work guys! Vincent Danen, ICQ: 54924721 . telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Freezer Burn BBS Linux Information and other Goodies at Freezer Burn: www.freezer-burn.org
