Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506

2000-05-06 Thread Pixel

Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A. Nameserver line from the dbox not parsed.  Set to /etc/resolv.conf
 as is, which is stupid:
   
 1. The first line in /etc/resolv.conf should be "search domain". 
 This domain is not collected by the dbox.

the box domain name is used. it seems fairly common use.

 
 2.  Multiple nameservers should be parsed out and set to
 /etc/resolv.conf one per line with a"nameserver " prefix.

you mean why doesn't it ask for more than one nameserver?
seems a good thing to add. 2 nameservers is ok?

 
 B.  /etc/hosts is not set up.  This means that only IP numbers, not
 names, may be used in the remote lp dbox.
 
 1.  The  host names and their IPs for /etc/hosts should be collected
 by a new dbox and set to /etc/hosts  This must be done before remote
 lp setup and testing.
 

do you think that's really needed at install?
nowadays, most people have DNS, don't they?

 C.  Default route is not set up.   For gateway machines a new dbox
 should collect the interface for the default route and set it up.  
 For LAN machines the gateway address should be set as the default
 route.

?? gateway @ is asked




Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506

2000-05-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Pixel wrote:
 
 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  2.  Multiple nameservers should be parsed out and set to
  /etc/resolv.conf one per line with a"nameserver " prefix.
 
 you mean why doesn't it ask for more than one nameserver?
 seems a good thing to add. 2 nameservers is ok?

Two is usual, but I have seen space to enter four nameservers.

  B.  /etc/hosts is not set up.  This means that only IP numbers, not
  names, may be used in the remote lp dbox.
 
  1.  The  host names and their IPs for /etc/hosts should be collected
  by a new dbox and set to /etc/hosts  This must be done before remote
  lp setup and testing.
 
 do you think that's really needed at install?
 nowadays, most people have DNS, don't they?

Small networks don't need DNS, they use /etc/hosts, set the same on
all machines, just like /etc/resolv.conf must be set the same on all
machines.   

It needs to be set up during install so that your remote printer test
works using machine names, and so that ping, name lookup, etc work
immediately on the first run of the new Linux.
 
  C.  Default route is not set up.   For gateway machines a new dbox
  should collect the interface for the default route and set it up.
  For LAN machines the gateway address should be set as the default
  route.
 
 ?? gateway @ is asked

route default gw name

That's good for machines on a LAN, but NOT for the gateway (say has
eth0 on the internet and eth1 on the LAN) machine or for no-LAN
machines.   

Any machine with 2 NICs (any more are ignored, by both Windows and
Linux - very strange) should cause the installer to ask which are to
be ifconfig up.   If both are required up, then this machine is a
gateway, and needs the following:

route default eth0

A no-LAN machine with a NIC also requires this, not a gateway
address.

-- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.




Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506

2000-05-06 Thread Eric J. Smith



On 6 May 2000, Pixel wrote:

 Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  2.  Multiple nameservers should be parsed out and set to
  /etc/resolv.conf one per line with a"nameserver " prefix.
 
 you mean why doesn't it ask for more than one nameserver?
 seems a good thing to add. 2 nameservers is ok?

yes, 2 would be good.

also, it would be nice to be able to specify a couple search domains and
have them setup

Eric.




Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506

2000-05-06 Thread Serge Lussier

Ron Stodden wrote:

 Previously reported problems no corrected:

 X Window setup

 Remote Printer Setup  Test

 Networking (partial - see below)

 New Problems:

 A. Nameserver line from the dbox not parsed.  Set to /etc/resolv.conf
 as is, which is stupid:


[...]

Hi Ron, and every one who give their own opinions . - ( Sorry for my bad
english )
I  considerate myself as just a bit more than a Linux newbie.
What I see by your message is that you must be a strong Linux user.
Is ()@optushome.com.au means that youre from Autralia ?
Let say yes... And me, I'm from Quebec, Canada. That means everybody
from all around the world
can try betas and write their own question and bug reports and problems
here during the beta
process of Mandrake distribs with  their own skill.


What I saw also in your message is that you know, as an expert,  what is
wrong in the install set
you tested. Cool!

I know, you know and almost everybody know that while in progress, a
project will
have some "stupid" behaviours...  Thus, I just can't retain myself to
point you with the way you
reported the problem above ( and all other people previously) .
I'm sure every Mandrake staff who work on the next 7.1 release
are excited and do their job with LOVE.  Telling them that something is
"stupid" could harm their
"amour propre" and its not the way of the debugging process's
communications - anyway...
Let say you're the only one who says something mad... "Bah! its not
worth to be sad at it..."

But I read all the messages here for a while since two weeks and its not
the first time I see
mad words... Hey guys they, @Mandrake try to make Linux as best as never
saw with
all computer configurations imaginable. This is a lot of work! We are
here to help them. NOT
to tell them that something somebody did or forgot is "stupid"...

Sincerement,
Serge Lussier
ICQ#53409121





Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506

2000-05-06 Thread Ron Stodden

Serge,

Hear!  Hear!

My use of "stupid" is not personal, but an objective statement.  When
an implementation does not fulfil its goal, it will have to be
redone, so is at least partially a waste of developmental
resources.   It is stupid of a company to waste its resources.

-- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.  [Australian, yes, but lived in Ottawa
1979 to 1990]