Re: [Cooker] Re: Problems in drakxtools regarding ltmodem

2003-08-25 Thread Buchan Milne
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Luca Berra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:54:48PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>> It seems to work correctly now (if no /dev/modem link is made), but I
>> think I will have to remove the packages (or do a clean install) and
>> test again to be sure. I will try again on current cooker.
>
> /dev/modem is evil and should not exist.
> unluckily serial port locking works using a file in /var/lock named
> after the device node.
> If you have /dev/modem linked to /dev/ttyS2 you could open the same
> device under two different names from two different apps and this could
> produce nightmares and other nuisances.

Well, I am not debating whether /dev/modem is a good idea or not, but it
would be much more work to support anything but /dev/modem (which
drakconnect sets kppp up for etc etc). But if /dev/modem is going to be
used for ltmodem, at least it should work.

Of course, having drakconnect use /dev/tts/LT0 would be better, but
that's not for this Mandrake release I think (too late).

ltmodem's are most popular on laptops, so in most cases I think it's not
an issue that it can be locked, since it's not likely (or the user is
clueless).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Problems in drakxtools regarding ltmodem

2003-08-25 Thread Luca Berra
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:54:48PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
It seems to work correctly now (if no /dev/modem link is made), but I
think I will have to remove the packages (or do a clean install) and
test again to be sure. I will try again on current cooker.
/dev/modem is evil and should not exist.
unluckily serial port locking works using a file in /var/lock named
after the device node.
If you have /dev/modem linked to /dev/ttyS2 you could open the same
device under two different names from two different apps and this could
produce nightmares and other nuisances.
regards,
L.
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[Cooker] Re: Problems in drakxtools regarding ltmodem

2003-08-25 Thread Buchan Milne
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François Pons wrote:
> Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>I would like to see ltmodem support out-the-box for boxed sets, and have
>>working packages, that with drakconnect (on beta2) do most things right
>>(drakconnect will install them when a ltmodem is found if they are
>>accessible by urpmi).
>>
>>The problem is still that drakconnect for some reason insists on making a
>>link for /dev/modem (at present it asks you which of 8 serial ports to
>>use, or if /usr/lib/libDrakx/network/modem.pm is patched, whatever device
>>is listed there for ltmodem, in 9.1 this was ttyS14), and this breaks
>>auto-loading of the lt_serial module (which works via 'alias /dev/modem
>>lt_serial' in modules.conf, and registering the symlink via devfs).
>
>
> At the epoch it has been made necessary to do that else it will not work.
>
> But now, if it works out of the box correctly (it could be nice if it
works even
> if devfs is not used too) we can remove this.

It seems to work correctly now (if no /dev/modem link is made), but I
think I will have to remove the packages (or do a clean install) and
test again to be sure. I will try again on current cooker.

I can't see an easy way to get it working without devfs without breaking
with devfs.

We could always leave the link /dev/modem->/dev/tts/0, and put lt_serial
in /etc/modules, but it's messier, and not necessary IMHO to load a
non-GPL driver for a device that may not always be used.

I don't mind which way to go, but I would like to see this work
out-the-box, and can test it a few times.

Of course, the other thing would be to get the package on the commercial
packs .. hope someone can organise this ...

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] Re: Problems in drakxtools regarding ltmodem

2003-08-25 Thread François Pons
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to see ltmodem support out-the-box for boxed sets, and have 
> working packages, that with drakconnect (on beta2) do most things right 
> (drakconnect will install them when a ltmodem is found if they are 
> accessible by urpmi).
> 
> The problem is still that drakconnect for some reason insists on making a 
> link for /dev/modem (at present it asks you which of 8 serial ports to 
> use, or if /usr/lib/libDrakx/network/modem.pm is patched, whatever device 
> is listed there for ltmodem, in 9.1 this was ttyS14), and this breaks 
> auto-loading of the lt_serial module (which works via 'alias /dev/modem 
> lt_serial' in modules.conf, and registering the symlink via devfs).

At the epoch it has been made necessary to do that else it will not work.

But now, if it works out of the box correctly (it could be nice if it works even
if devfs is not used too) we can remove this.

Best Regards,
François.