Re: [Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-06-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 16:14, Michael Reinsch wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:13:09 +0200
 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  First stab:
  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RequestedFeatures
  Those with edit access on the Wiki, feel free to expand ...
 
 I don't have access (well, this is a wiki and it is also well hidden -
 so why is access control required anyway? The big wikis don't have one
 either...), so I'll post my stuff here:
 
 Better support for notebooks: I'm not talking about hardware at the
 moment but other stuff which is not required for normal desktop
 computers because they don't get carried around. Most of the stuff I'd
 like to see in the next release are already filed as bug reports (e.g.
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3944 - power management
 scripts) or packaged
 (http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-05/msg01355.php -
 automatic location control - do some stuff automatically when changing
 networks).
 
 The two things I've mentioned are both quite small scripts, but they
 help me a lot, so I guess they might help others as well.

In ref to the above Please!




Re: [Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-05-31 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 06:13:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
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 Warly wrote:
  Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 There have been a number of threads relating to requests for
 enhancements / new features for 9.2, and I think it's about time to get
 them all in one place.
 
  I think that list of proposed enhancements should be more logically
  put in wiki.
 
 First stab:
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RequestedFeatures
 
 Those with edit access on the Wiki, feel free to expand ...

Here's a few other ones (I don't have write access).

How about more support for a small business environment, including tools to
setup centralised account and specialised installs for server and client
boxen.

An option to setup an internal mandrake mirror on a server (as one of the
task choices). And of course the companion option on the client to use this
mirror as install/update source.

In a general sense, would it be a good idea to provide mandrake install with
a context during the installation? Stuff like (pc, laptop) (server, client)
(office, multimedia, games). Specific hardware questions very early on in
the install procedure and perhaps suggestions to further tune the
installation afterwards (add nvidia/matrox/ati/etc. drivers from sources X,
Y, Z) in a file in /root/tuning-suggestions.txt.


Maybe this isn't realistic for 9.2, but this would probably make it even
easier for newbies to install mandrake, even for business use.


Cheers

Simon



Re: [Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-05-31 Thread bgmilne
 On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 06:13:09PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:

 First stab:
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RequestedFeatures

 Those with edit access on the Wiki, feel free to expand ...

 Here's a few other ones (I don't have write access).

 How about more support for a small business environment, including tools
 to setup centralised account

I didn't add this yet as a feature request as it belongs in the The Big
Picture section, and I still need to add some bits to the server section
and drakxtools section to support it, but that's basically what I am
aiming at, the LDAP wizard was the first attempt, but I may try and use
libconf (if I have the time for this at all). But first we need a working
openldap-2.1 (with db migration if necessary) and a better default config
file (generic regex-based ACLs).

 and specialised installs for server and
 client boxen.


I really don't think this is necessary. Who determines what a client box
runs? Should it run apache or not (maybe the box is a desktop of a web
developer). Should it run samba or not (maybe you have windows desktops,
and some users need to be able to share files easily). Should it run an
ldap server (maybe as a slave for disconnected authentication). Should a
server not have KDE (newbie admins will probably need some tools,
ksambaplugin is a good example)?

 An option to setup an internal mandrake mirror on a server (as one of
 the task choices). And of course the companion option on the client to
 use this mirror as install/update source.


I have mentioned this before ... so yes, I will add this. What I really
think should happen is that urpmi should use ldap 

 In a general sense, would it be a good idea to provide mandrake install
 with a context during the installation? Stuff like (pc, laptop) (server,
 client)

I don't think this is necessarily the rigth approach. The only machine I
have worked on with  1GB ram is not a server, but a laptop ... so which
machine gets the enterprise kernel? The only real difference is enabling
acpi etc etc.

 (office, multimedia, games).

This is done already.

 Specific hardware questions very
 early on in the install procedure and perhaps suggestions to further
 tune the
 installation afterwards (add nvidia/matrox/ati/etc. drivers from sources
 X, Y, Z) in a file in /root/tuning-suggestions.txt.

Since commercial versions of Mandrake ship with the drivers anyway, and in
some cases the Mandrake Control Center will install drivers from the Club
commercial sources, I don't see why any additional provision should be
made for vendors who make life more difficult for linux distros.

 Maybe this isn't realistic for 9.2, but this would probably make it even
 easier for newbies to install mandrake, even for business use.

IMHO, rather than supporting proprietary hardware (ie NVidia/ATI drivers),
support for open-source friendly hardware (or at least hardware with
open-source drivers) must be faultless. The promise issue is a really bad
problem on 9.1 





Re: [Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-05-31 Thread Michael Reinsch
Hi!

On Tue, 27 May 2003 18:13:09 +0200
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First stab:
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RequestedFeatures
 Those with edit access on the Wiki, feel free to expand ...

I don't have access (well, this is a wiki and it is also well hidden -
so why is access control required anyway? The big wikis don't have one
either...), so I'll post my stuff here:

Better support for notebooks: I'm not talking about hardware at the
moment but other stuff which is not required for normal desktop
computers because they don't get carried around. Most of the stuff I'd
like to see in the next release are already filed as bug reports (e.g.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3944 - power management
scripts) or packaged
(http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-05/msg01355.php -
automatic location control - do some stuff automatically when changing
networks).

The two things I've mentioned are both quite small scripts, but they
help me a lot, so I guess they might help others as well.

-- 
  Michael Reinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://mr.uue.org



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Re: [Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-05-31 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Samstag, 31. Mai 2003 00:50 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  In a general sense, would it be a good idea to provide mandrake install
  with a context during the installation? Stuff like (pc, laptop) (server,
  client)

 I don't think this is necessarily the rigth approach. The only machine I
 have worked on with  1GB ram is not a server, but a laptop ... so which
 machine gets the enterprise kernel? The only real difference is enabling
 acpi etc etc.

I thought yesterday about a thing like this. The context should not be 
detected automatically (this wouldn't work) , but installs for special 
purposes would be a good thing, I think. 

What I think of (examples):

a router
---
dhcpd + firewall + minimalistic installation + ?(mserver/linecontrol)? + ...

would be a good thing to choose this installation i think of an installation 
like specialized distributions like esmith and others.

soho-server


more things additional to the above, like ldap, samba, apache for intranet 
(??) and what else one could think of. 

multimedia-homeserver
-

dvr/mp3-box/dvd-player/streaming-server ( think of mythtv / vdr / GiantDisc / 
whatelse)



A big part of te above could be done from a package list like the autoinstall 
disk. It should be easy to deploy such a profile and maybe collecting/sharing 
of such profiles could be made possible. The problem is that some parts of 
the configuration should be done then automatically too and that can't be 
done with a thing like the autoinstallation disc. 
I don't know if this can at all be done, but it would be nice to be able to 
compete with some specialized ditributions (have a mandrake box installed for 
a special task, w/o the need of big work after installation)

Just an idea I thought about yesterday

Steffen





[Cooker] Re: What to do with RFEs

2003-05-27 Thread Buchan Milne
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Warly wrote:
 Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There have been a number of threads relating to requests for
enhancements / new features for 9.2, and I think it's about time to get
them all in one place.

 I think that list of proposed enhancements should be more logically
 put in wiki.

First stab:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RequestedFeatures

Those with edit access on the Wiki, feel free to expand ...

Regards,
Buchan

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