RE: [Cooker] Re: quelques souhaits pour la prochaine version

2000-04-15 Thread geoffrey lee

Yo,

> > > >  = reminder: OpenSSH is free, french rules allow its use.
> > >American rules don't.
> >
> > as far as I know, the problem is more in relation with the RSA patent
> > - we'll have to wait until next september to put it.
>
> Are you sure it isn't the export problem ?
>



doubt it...US now allows high crypto stuff. well it's nice to see that
they've relaxed the rather (silly) export rules.



> --
>   -- Yoann http://prelude.sourceforge.net
>  It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
> the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.
>




Re: [Cooker] Re: quelques souhaits pour la prochaine version

2000-04-15 Thread yoann

Gael Duval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > 
> > Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:59:51AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote:
> > > * DHCP, when I select DHCP on a network interface,
> > 
> > > * SSH
> > >  = why not available in simple and documented way?
> >It is availlable on crypto.linux-mandrake.com (openssh)
> > 
> > >  = reminder: OpenSSH is free, french rules allow its use.
> >American rules don't.
> 
> as far as I know, the problem is more in relation with the RSA patent
> - we'll have to wait until next september to put it.

Are you sure it isn't the export problem ?

-- 
-- Yoann http://prelude.sourceforge.net
 It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.




Re: [Cooker] Re: quelques souhaits pour la prochaine version

2000-04-15 Thread Gael Duval

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:59:51AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote:
> > * DHCP, when I select DHCP on a network interface,
> 
> > * SSH
> >  = why not available in simple and documented way?
>It is availlable on crypto.linux-mandrake.com (openssh)
> 
> >  = reminder: OpenSSH is free, french rules allow its use.
>American rules don't.

as far as I know, the problem is more in relation with the RSA patent
- we'll have to wait until next september to put it.

Greets,

Gael.
--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
< http://www.mandrake.com >




Re: [Cooker] Re: quelques souhaits pour la prochaine version

2000-04-15 Thread yoann

Francois-Rene Rideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:59:51AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote:
> * DHCP, when I select DHCP on a network interface,

> * SSH
>  = why not available in simple and documented way?
   It is availlable on crypto.linux-mandrake.com (openssh)

>  = reminder: OpenSSH is free, french rules allow its use.
   American rules don't.


-- 
-- Yoann http://prelude.sourceforge.net
 It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.




[Cooker] Re: quelques souhaits pour la prochaine version

2000-04-15 Thread Francois-Rene Rideau

On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 01:59:51AM +0200, Gael Duval wrote:
> tu le refais en anglais et j'applaudis ;) et tu te fais 99% d'amis sur
> Cooker-list!
Applaudis! Et merde au pourcent restant.

Congrats 4 yer past contrib 2 Linux usability,
which makes Mandrake 1 of the least difficult systems
to configure 4 a newbie.
Here's a report after a short XP at configuring Mandrake 7.0 for a friend
(who managed to install it himself beforehand -- congrats 2 U!).
Sorry for telegraphic style STOP No copious free time STOP


* Network config (using DrakeConf)
  = why must we manually specify the if name,
   instead of having by default the names of detected interfaces?
  = same for corresponding modules, all the more since Lothar is meant
   to autodetect the mapping modules<->interfaces
   (why didn't it detect and insmod net2k-pci
   as the module for the very common Realtek 8029 ?)
  = if the machine will autodetect the if when left blank,
   why is it a blank instead of the label "auto" ?

* DHCP, when I select DHCP on a network interface,
 = why fscking not display an error when dhcp client not present?
 = yes some message is logged somewhere. Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a ...
  As if newbie even ever dreamt the concept of logs.
 = why not automagically install a client if not present ?
  and the newbie not fscking cares about the difference b/w dhcpcd &
  dhcp-client -- pick one for him, no ask question, unless in expert mode.
  I recommend dhcpcd.
 = why need I manually type "ifup eth0" (or yuck, reboot) to enable the
  network after I manually installed DHCP (cause I couldn't tell DrakeConf
  how to try again).
 = (dream) why not have a package that automagically manage known french ISPs?

 Newbie no want to manually manage technical details
 that newbie no understand. frontend must manage that for him.


* RpmDrake
 = why DrakeConf propose KPackage not RpmDrake???
 = why DrakeConf not in KDE menu ???
 = why so difficult to know what to put in FTP configuration?
 = why no fscking error message when FTP configuration not well specified?
 = why no preconfigured list of FTP repositories (even disabled by default)
  or an option to autofetch one from mandrake's home site?
 = why forget everything I spent minutes to guess and type, in case of error?
 = why not instead have the ability to define disabled sources, and disable
  those where error detected (or still enable them, and trigger error flag).
 = why not an easy response to this important question on the Mandrake FAQ?
  as if the FTP option wasn't COMPLETELY FSCKING USELESS as is.
  Even I (no fscking newbie) couldn't successfully use it.

* email
 = why so difficult to find where to specify the smtp gateway?
 = why not in network_config/server_tasks/foo ?
 = it looks like you're doing the Right Thing(TM) of pointing all apps
  to localhost, with the /usr/lib/sendmail doing the Right Thing(TM).
  However, since there is NO FSCKING WAY I could find in DrakeConf to tell
  postfix what the Right Thing(TM) is, that's pretty fscking stupid.
  How is postfix meant to find the server?
  Did it read it in a chicken's guts?
  Is my newbie friend meant to have guessed the right answer the first time
  at install, with NO WAY BACK on error? Scary!
  HOURS lost in STRESS. Quite reminds me of Windows.
  Had to finally tell netscape to use my ISP's gateway directly.

* SSH
 = why not available in simple and documented way?
 = reminder: OpenSSH is free, french rules allow its use.
 = reminder: can have additional CD, and/or two different CDs,
   w/ or w/o crypto (possibly 2 iso images, with multisession to make one CD).
 = Debian has packages for difficult to distribute software:
  1- optional CDs to use when permitted
  2- package servers in free countries, preconfigured in installation menus
  3- wrapper packages that go fetch non-free software from distro site,
   and automagically patches and installs them.

* terminal emulator
 = why fscking buggy kterm by default on the KDE bar?
  it so fskcing sucks that I had to quit it and reattach screen from
  a real xterm so as to finish this mail (typing in a telnet'd emacs).
 = why ALT configured as 8-bit setter instead of meta-char inserter in xterm?
  All 8-bit clean systems (everyone since 1995?) have ALT-foo => ESC foo

* DNS
 = why when I blank back the DNS, instead of deactivating it,
  it doesn't replace it by the DHCP configuration, as would if I rebooted?
  Of course it works if I *manually* relaunch DHCP. Fsck.
 = There's a difference between AUTO and NONE.
  Should be NO FSCKING BLANK FIELD.
  Even the fscking braindead BIOS knows the difference between AUTO and NONE
  in its IDE configuration!!!
 = if you have AUTO mode, better have an expert mode menu to choose tactic,
  error recovery policy, etc.

* Netscape
 = why outgoing mail pointing to localhost if localhost can't be configured?
 = why preferences, new message, etc, windows no fit in the 800x600 screen?
  looks like bad KDE configuration.
  My FVWM2 co