Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-20 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

> Remember that to install W2k loader, you must be Administrator which seems
> not to be the case.
Yup... That situation is realistic...

Hmmm... this is looking grim... The only way I can forsee to get the
Admin rights is to somehow use a documented hack (buffer-overflow) to
get in...

Stefan




AW: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-18 Thread Manuel Hahr

Hi,

> -Stefan wrote-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Stefan van der
> Eijk
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2000 22:33
> An: Cooker
> Betreff: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A collegue recently installed Mandrake 7.1 on his HP 4150 laptop (that
> one runs on win98, the new laptops will run w2k). No problems 
> at all, he
> booted win98, insetted the CD, chose to install, the CD then shutdown
> windows and started linux & the installer. Ueber cool. But will this
> work on W2K?

I don't think so. When inserting the MDK-CD in w2k it say's:
"You can't install Linux Mandrake from this Windows version.

Try another installation method"

When you just boot from CD of FD everything works fine.

regards 

Manuel

 smime.p7s


RE: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-18 Thread BERNARD Sebastien

Remember that to install W2k loader, you must be Administrator which seems
not to be the case.

-Message d'origine-
De : Geoffrey Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : mercredi 18 octobre 2000 06:04
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS


Yo,

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:32:58PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The company I work for is preparing to roll out a new set of laptops in
> the near future. My current craptop (sorry, I hate the thing) is due to
> be replaced by one of those new ones. The hardware configuration of the
> new laptop is very nice, but the software wouldn't be my choice --> it
> comes with W2K, installed in on a single NTFS formatted partition (yes,
> yes, what a waste). I'd like to be able to install linux on it without
> destroying the software on it (there's no other way to pick up my mail
> there, since they're using an Exchange-only mailsystem).
> 
> - Is the mandrake installer currently capable of resizing NTFS
> filesystems?


No, unfortunately the NTFS stuff is horribly documented, not only on our
part but also on m$'s part.

> - Is it _possible_ to resize NTFS filessystems (with Open / Closed
> software? which software? any experience with this?)?


Yes. Try Partition Magic.

You can find it around the net (all legal issues aside.)

> - Can the Mandrake installer be started from a "locked down" W2K machine
> (no administrator rights whatsoever, no booting from CD or perhaps even
> FDD --> a machine catered for the end-luser)?
> - What strategies can I use to setup a dual boot system (lilo in the
> MBR, setting up 2 (+swap) partitions)?
>


You can use lilo if you like ...

Personally I use Lilo.

I've seen people do it reverse with Y2K (i.e. the Y2K laoder first, then
Lilo)
but both are fine.


> windows and started linux & the installer. Ueber cool. But will this
> work on W2K?
> 


Humm not sure ...

I don't think so though, since you need Real Mode to boot ..

Also another note, I don't think that it works for WinME (AFAIK)

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Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-17 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:32:58PM +0200, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The company I work for is preparing to roll out a new set of laptops in
> the near future. My current craptop (sorry, I hate the thing) is due to
> be replaced by one of those new ones. The hardware configuration of the
> new laptop is very nice, but the software wouldn't be my choice --> it
> comes with W2K, installed in on a single NTFS formatted partition (yes,
> yes, what a waste). I'd like to be able to install linux on it without
> destroying the software on it (there's no other way to pick up my mail
> there, since they're using an Exchange-only mailsystem).
> 
> - Is the mandrake installer currently capable of resizing NTFS
> filesystems?


No, unfortunately the NTFS stuff is horribly documented, not only on our
part but also on m$'s part.

> - Is it _possible_ to resize NTFS filessystems (with Open / Closed
> software? which software? any experience with this?)?


Yes. Try Partition Magic.

You can find it around the net (all legal issues aside.)

> - Can the Mandrake installer be started from a "locked down" W2K machine
> (no administrator rights whatsoever, no booting from CD or perhaps even
> FDD --> a machine catered for the end-luser)?
> - What strategies can I use to setup a dual boot system (lilo in the
> MBR, setting up 2 (+swap) partitions)?
>


You can use lilo if you like ...

Personally I use Lilo.

I've seen people do it reverse with Y2K (i.e. the Y2K laoder first, then Lilo)
but both are fine.


> windows and started linux & the installer. Ueber cool. But will this
> work on W2K?
> 


Humm not sure ...

I don't think so though, since you need Real Mode to boot ..

Also another note, I don't think that it works for WinME (AFAIK)

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Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-17 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
> - Is it _possible_ to resize NTFS filessystems (with Open / Closed
> software? which software? any experience with this?)?

PartitionMagic 5.0 from PowerQuest
-- 

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Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-17 Thread Pixel

Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - Is the mandrake installer currently capable of resizing NTFS
> filesystems?

no. and mounting w2k ntfs is risky!




Re: [Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-17 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

> - Is it _possible_ to resize NTFS filessystems (with Open / Closed
> software? which software? any experience with this?)?
it seems that parted supports resizing of NTFS, from
http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/USER

"
2.2.4   MS Windows NT, MS Windows 2000
--
The NT boot loader needs
  * it's own boot sector code in a PRIMARY FAT16 or NTFS partition
(FAT32
possible with Windows 2000), which is called the "system partition". 
This
partition should be marked with the "boot" flag in Parted.
  * the files NTLDR, BOOT.INI and NTDETECT.COM within the system
partition.
BOOT.INI holds the information about the physical location of the
primary
partition or logical drive where Windows NT was installed to, called the
"boot
partition".  The boot partition and system partition may be located
together in
one primary partition.
  * optionally, the file NTBOOTDD.SYS within the system partition, which
is the
renamed disk driver for your SCSI or IDE controller, when this has no
own BIOS
(or it's BIOS can't access large disks).
  * the system partition should end before cylinder 1024, and MUST start
before cylinder 1024.
  * both the boot and system partition may be resized, without the need
for
any other changes.
  * if the boot partition's number changes (i.e. it's MINOR number),
then the
BOOT.INI has to be updated.
"




[Cooker] Resizing NTFS

2000-10-17 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

Hi,

The company I work for is preparing to roll out a new set of laptops in
the near future. My current craptop (sorry, I hate the thing) is due to
be replaced by one of those new ones. The hardware configuration of the
new laptop is very nice, but the software wouldn't be my choice --> it
comes with W2K, installed in on a single NTFS formatted partition (yes,
yes, what a waste). I'd like to be able to install linux on it without
destroying the software on it (there's no other way to pick up my mail
there, since they're using an Exchange-only mailsystem).

- Is the mandrake installer currently capable of resizing NTFS
filesystems?
- Is it _possible_ to resize NTFS filessystems (with Open / Closed
software? which software? any experience with this?)?
- Can the Mandrake installer be started from a "locked down" W2K machine
(no administrator rights whatsoever, no booting from CD or perhaps even
FDD --> a machine catered for the end-luser)?
- What strategies can I use to setup a dual boot system (lilo in the
MBR, setting up 2 (+swap) partitions)?

A collegue recently installed Mandrake 7.1 on his HP 4150 laptop (that
one runs on win98, the new laptops will run w2k). No problems at all, he
booted win98, insetted the CD, chose to install, the CD then shutdown
windows and started linux & the installer. Ueber cool. But will this
work on W2K?

regards,

Stefan