[Cooker] SCSI Performance (was Ram Management)

2000-10-12 Thread Nigel . Webber

Hi

I have a linux box with a IBM Deskstar 75XP (one of the faster IDE HD's) on
ATA66 bus together with a Seagate X15 U160 SCSI HD on a Tekram SCSI Controller.

To get Linux on the scsi HD I had to first install it on the IDE HD (so I could
patch the kernel to support the SCSI Controller. The same system using SCSI is
*Much* faster than using IDE. This shows itsself in the kernel compile of 2.2.16
which takes 5 mins with linux running on the IDE drive and 3.5 mins on the SCSI
drive. (Using Athlon 1.1G.

The same is true in windows where copying a file between 2 partitions on scsi is
25% faster than copying a file between 2 partitions on the IDE drive (even with
the IDE drive on an ATA-100 bus - which made hardly any difference to
performance over connecting it to an ATA-66 bus!).

Having said that, in terms of capacity, the SCSI drive cost 4 times as much as
the IDE one, but is no where near 4 times the speed :-(

Sustained Transfer rates from my SCSI drive (i.e copying a 650MB ISO image to
another partition) totals some 39MBytes/sec while the IDE drive manages only
23MB/Sec.

Speed is not the only advantage of SCSI - for terminal expanders it works well
too, buy a drive, and plug it in - Modern scsi controllers sort out the SCSI ID
for you. None of this IDE business of connecting a CD-ROM drive to a channel,
and thus slowing down the HD to the same rate as the CD (though you cant mix non
ultra 2 or 3 stuff like this).

Also, 40 speed SCSI CDroms are more likely to be 40 speed cause the SCSI
controller its-self handles the data transfer leaving the processor to do more
important stuff.

The choice in DVD / CDROM /Writers for SCSI though is naff - with the faster,
more modern writers being IDE - I cant for example find a 12x10x32 CDwriter for
SCSI, the re-write is invarably only 4 times (but you need special (expensive)
cdrw disks to do more than 4x anyway).

DVD drives for a SCSI bus?? - You'll be lucky!

SCSI writers are top under linux though cause none of the hotch-botch IDE-SCSI
emulation is required. CD-writing with a SCSI HD or CD-ROM drive to a SCSI
writer is *really* reliable, and fast, and it works no matter how busy you make
your system during the copy.

SCSI, while a server solution (due to cost) is not crude like IDE, and makes for
a high performance (high expense) workstation. Though you need an IDE bus for a
cheap, massive IDE HD, and for an IDE DVD drive.

Nigel








Re: [Cooker] SCSI Performance (was Ram Management)

2000-10-12 Thread Ron Stodden

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a linux box with a IBM Deskstar 75XP (one of the faster IDE HD's) on
 ATA66 bus together with a Seagate X15 U160 SCSI HD on a Tekram SCSI Controller.

Tom's hardware claims the new IBM Deskstar is the fastest IDE disk
available (I have two of them, 30GB x 2).  They run at 7200 rpm, are
ATA100, and have glass disks, with some special heads.

If you were able to run them at ATA100 (not your present 66) with the
new special circular cross-section ATA100 cables, you might find in
practice that they virtually achieve SCSI speeds, with the difference
easily compensated for by the much lower cost and no need for a SCSI
controller (which to get speed becomes very expensive).

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]