Re: [Cooker] This is already one week the problem exist and it was notified but nobody fixed it
Ainsi parlait Lea Gris : This is shame we _pay for club_ and have this little support from Mandrake Club. What are you expecting from club packages anyway ? Their overall quality has always been crappy, as Denis always refused to enforce any kind of packaging policy. -- Guillaume Rousse A computer makes as many mistakes in two seconds as 20 men working 20 years make -- Murphy's Laws on Technology n°33
Re: [Cooker] This is already one week the problem exist and it was notified but nobody fixed it
Ainsi parlait Buchan Milne : What are you expecting from club packages anyway ? Their overall quality has always been crappy, as Denis always refused to enforce any kind of packaging policy. Well, I hope you aren't saying the KDE packages are crappy, since they are rebuilds from cooker ... so if they are, it would seem Denis' refusal has nothing to do with package quality??? Also, Denis had to set the system up with constraints which make it difficult to use existing tools for some checking. Anyway, please show which of the current packages in test: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=RPMtype=testing are crappy. Most of them are either cooker rebuilds, or have been uploaded to contrib (with no errors from bots or rpmlint), or are improvements over packages which were initially available in the comm source (ie done by ysomeone internally, and fixed by a contributor after starting from scratch). Or maybe you want to tell us which packages in free: ftp://archive.sun.ac.za/mandrake/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9. 1/SRPMS/ are so crappy? I've spoken of overall quality, not of specific packages. And it's precisely because Denis choose the reinvent the wheel from scratch instead of using and extending contributer system than tools as rpmlint, distriblint and other are impossible to use. Please don't just jump on the subject when the facts may not support your favourite gripe with MandrakeClub. The problem is that the person who uploaded them (fafane) seems to not actually test installation via urpmi. May i remember you that this kind of problem is checked by upload script on klama ? That it is also later checked by distriblint ? -- Guillaume Rousse The worse the weather, the more you are required to be out in it -- Murphy's Bush Fire Brigade Laws n°17
Re: [Cooker] This is already one week the problem exist and it was notified but nobody fixed it
Le Samedi 16 Août 2003 15:10, Buchan Milne a écrit : On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Lea Gris wrote: Buchan Milne a écrit : Well, you were not given assurance that all packages from Club would be supported, you joined MandrakeClub to support Mandrakesoft, mainly to develop the distribution itslf (if you read the page describing the benefits). Well, I'm sorry for my trollish way of saying it. The real point here is I'm just willing to expect more quality and more support as a club member and ans Mandrake Sustainer than from friendly geekish mirrors and contributions. If I can't get it work better with the club and with Mandrake I have less motivation in helping Mandrake by joining the club. You want users tu help Mandrake existe and develop ? Makes them happy with good packages, good support, good distros. You know it's of little use discussing these issues on this list, please send this to Mandrakesoft management, not the people who do what they can to provide quality packages on the Club, provide quality answers to questions on the Club (even to non-members) etc etc. I asked in past if poeple was intesrested by result of some bot (distlint, checkrequires). I never got a positive answer. I ported an apps from club to cooker, I need 3 hours to fuxeed ! I asked to see club packages port on contrib (when it is possible), as it is the rules, no answer. Club have no qa, and nobody want, that's all. Regards, Buchan -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
