Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread jokerman64
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 06:09 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> onsdagen den 1 oktober 2003 11.41 skrev Leon Brooks:
> > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:20, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > This particular font is named "times.ttf" and I believe it is pretty
> > > standard in windoze. Is there a version somewhere that I can use?
> > > What ttf fonts if any ships with 9.2 and where is it located, which
> > > package?
> >
> > Every Linux that I know of ships with a Times font.
> >fonts-ttf-west_european:/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/a_d_mono.ttf
> > Cheers; Leon
>
> I have no such font in my cooker install:
>
> find /usr -type f -name "*.ttf" | grep imes
>
that's cause the Times fon't shipped w/ mdk isn't a ttf font. it's postscript 
or something like that.
> Well..., I think I just use a_d_mono, that will do.
you could use bitstream charter. it's pretty similar to times / times new 
roman



Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Rob
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> This particular font is named "times.ttf" and I believe it is
> pretty standard in windoze. Is there a version somewhere that
> I can use? What ttf fonts if any ships with 9.2 and where is
> it located, which package?

Bitstream Vera (collection of a very nice serif, sans and mono 
font) are free and I think part of 9.2.  (If not, the license 
encourages you to bundle them with your own software.) The 
Lucida fonts that come with Mandrake aren't bad either.

I might as well plug my ripoff of one of the above fonts here 
Toga Sans, http://www.binara.com/toga/ :)

Rob




Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 1 oktober 2003 11.41 skrev Leon Brooks:
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:20, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > This particular font is named "times.ttf" and I believe it is pretty
> > standard in windoze. Is there a version somewhere that I can use?
> > What ttf fonts if any ships with 9.2 and where is it located, which
> > package?
>
> Every Linux that I know of ships with a Times font.
>fonts-ttf-west_european:/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western/a_d_mono.ttf
> Cheers; Leon

I have no such font in my cooker install:

find /usr -type f -name "*.ttf" | grep imes

Well..., I think I just use a_d_mono, that will do.

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com




Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:20, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> This particular font is named "times.ttf" and I believe it is pretty
> standard in windoze. Is there a version somewhere that I can use?
> What ttf fonts if any ships with 9.2 and where is it located, which
> package?

Every Linux that I know of ships with a Times font.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 1 oktober 2003 11.05 skrev Thomas Backlund:
> From: "Oden Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm packaging a new cool apache2 module that needs a ttf font that has
>
> this
>
> > license:
> >
> > http://www.agfamonotype.com/html/default.asp?con=eula_land
> >
> > What is that? Is it ok for me to include this font in the binary package?
>
> The
>
> > font is included in the tarball.
>
> Nope... it's no way near _free_ ...
>  take a look at this for example:
>
> 
> [...]
> You do not have a right or license to use the Software and Documentation
> unless you have paid the application license fee to AMT, or its authorized
> dealer, and have obtained the proper typeface access keys and have
> specifically agreed to the following terms and conditions: Subject to the
> foregoing, AMT grants you a non-exclusive license to use the Software and
> Documentation upon the following terms and conditions:
> [...]
> For the purpose of determining the proper number of computers for which a
> license is needed, the following example is supplied for illustration
> purposes only: If there are 100 computers connected to the server, with no
> more than 15 computers ever using the Font Software concurrently, but the
> Font Software will be used on 25 different computers at various points in
> time, you must acquire a site license for 25 computers.
> [...]
> 
>
>
> IMHO I don't think even plf can accept this one...
>
> So afaik you need to switch the font, or package it without the fonts,
> and let people get the font themselves...

Oh..., damn. Ok, thanks Thomas.

This particular font is named "times.ttf" and I believe it is pretty standard 
in windoze. Is there a version somewhere that I can use? What ttf fonts if 
any ships with 9.2 and where is it located, which package? 


-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com




Re: [Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: "Oden Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi.
>
> I'm packaging a new cool apache2 module that needs a ttf font that has
this
> license:
>
> http://www.agfamonotype.com/html/default.asp?con=eula_land
>
> What is that? Is it ok for me to include this font in the binary package?
The
> font is included in the tarball.
>

Nope... it's no way near _free_ ...
 take a look at this for example:


[...]
You do not have a right or license to use the Software and Documentation
unless you have paid the application license fee to AMT, or its authorized
dealer, and have obtained the proper typeface access keys and have
specifically agreed to the following terms and conditions: Subject to the
foregoing, AMT grants you a non-exclusive license to use the Software and
Documentation upon the following terms and conditions:
[...]
For the purpose of determining the proper number of computers for which a
license is needed, the following example is supplied for illustration
purposes only: If there are 100 computers connected to the server, with no
more than 15 computers ever using the Font Software concurrently, but the
Font Software will be used on 25 different computers at various points in
time, you must acquire a site license for 25 computers.
[...]



IMHO I don't think even plf can accept this one...

So afaik you need to switch the font, or package it without the fonts,
and let people get the font themselves...


Thomas





[Cooker] font license question

2003-10-01 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi.

I'm packaging a new cool apache2 module that needs a ttf font that has this 
license:

http://www.agfamonotype.com/html/default.asp?con=eula_land

What is that? Is it ok for me to include this font in the binary package? The 
font is included in the tarball.

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com