Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:11:13PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:14:02PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... > > > > > > > > > > That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? > > > > > > > > alt0 is the 2.4 kernel, alt1 the 2.2. > > > > > > OK. > > > > > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > > > without problems . > > > > > > alt0 kernel and rdz sayz: no screens found, and complaints about > > > > xfree problem apparently? dunno. > > > > > some driver image not recognized. > > > > you could provide details on this last problem. > > It sayz: > > Intel unknown chipset (x7125) rev 3 > > But my mainboard and video driver has been running > for something like 3 years without problems, and it boots ok > in graphichs mode both with mdk 9.2 beta 2 cdrom 1 > and hd.img as of the 7th aug, and the resulting X from > 9.2ß2 and cooker runs without (video) problems. could someone send me a working lilo.conf entry for this? best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > We normally use vga=788, maybe this is the origin of the problem? > > tried it, the problem still persists. > I find it quite strange, given that the same (hd version) > files worked fine from floppy. Any other ideas? No :(.. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 03:23:47PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:11:13PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > > > > > without problems . > > [...] > > > Tried again this time with the hd.rdz from the hd.img diskette. > > And the kerne is the same. I still got the error mentioned above. > > So maybe it is my entry in lilo.conf: > > > > image=/boot/alt0/vmlinuz > > label="install" > > root=/dev/ram3 > > initrd=/boot/alt0/all.rdz > > append="ramdisk_size=32000" > > vga=ext > > We normally use vga=788, maybe this is the origin of the problem? tried it, the problem still persists. I find it quite strange, given that the same (hd version) files worked fine from floppy. Any other ideas? Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:11:13PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > > > > without problems . [...] > Tried again this time with the hd.rdz from the hd.img diskette. > And the kerne is the same. I still got the error mentioned above. > So maybe it is my entry in lilo.conf: > > image=/boot/alt0/vmlinuz > label="install" > root=/dev/ram3 > initrd=/boot/alt0/all.rdz > append="ramdisk_size=32000" > vga=ext We normally use vga=788, maybe this is the origin of the problem? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:11:13PM +0200, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > > > without problems . > > > > > > alt0 kernel and rdz sayz: no screens found, and complaints about > > > > xfree problem apparently? dunno. > > > > > some driver image not recognized. > > > > you could provide details on this last problem. > > It sayz: > > Intel unknown chipset (x7125) rev 3 > > But my mainboard and video driver has been running > for something like 3 years without problems, and it boots ok > in graphichs mode both with mdk 9.2 beta 2 cdrom 1 > and hd.img as of the 7th aug, and the resulting X from > 9.2ß2 and cooker runs without (video) problems. Tried again this time with the hd.rdz from the hd.img diskette. And the kerne is the same. I still got the error mentioned above. So maybe it is my entry in lilo.conf: image=/boot/alt0/vmlinuz label="install" root=/dev/ram3 initrd=/boot/alt0/all.rdz append="ramdisk_size=32000" vga=ext read-only Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Griffin wrote: > Just an idle, uninformed question, but is there any way to tell a > Mandrake install boot (whether from CD or floppy with maybe old hd.img > on it) to "reboot-in-place" using the hd.img from a local disk cooker > mirror ? The object being not to have to create new hd.img boot > floppies all of the time... > See the cooker howto on the wiki, it basically involves loopback-mounting the image, coping the initrd image and the kernel out the floppy, and adding a lilo boot entry for it. Also, with this method, you can pass more options via LILO to set the path to your cooker mirror etc (I covered this in a mail on cooker a long time ago, I am not sure if the details made it to the wiki). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Mhq5rJK6UGDSBKcRAi3uAJ9KzyM+S8EL3kNoinqtMNraMu8zaQCdE/7W ybA9r8uRKjHTcT1cQ1XwAbE= =mZYZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: Could all of that be put into a tarball with every update, or maybe in a rpm? It is easier and faster to just do everything on the harddisk, in stead of writing floppies or even burning cd's. And in the case of floppies, a had disk install can be from a bigger initrd disk than what can be on a floppy. Pixel had an even better solution, which is to use isolinux/alt0 all.rdz and vmlinuz. Just take the LILO example from the Wiki page for using hd.img, substitute all.rdz for hd.rdz and vmlinuz for vmlinuz-hdimg (using their actual locations in your cooker tree), and append a /sbin/lilo to your cooker update script (in case the update changes one of these files). Booting this gives you a panel from which you can choose HD install.
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:50:45PM -0400, Frank Griffin wrote: > Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > >Could all of that be put into a tarball with every update, or maybe in a > >rpm? > > > >It is easier and faster to just do everything on the harddisk, in stead > >of writing floppies or even burning cd's. And in the case of floppies, a > >had disk install can be from a bigger initrd disk than what can be on a > >floppy. > > > > > Pixel had an even better solution, which is to use isolinux/alt0 all.rdz > and vmlinuz. Just take the LILO example from the Wiki page for using > hd.img, substitute all.rdz for hd.rdz and vmlinuz for vmlinuz-hdimg > (using their actual locations in your cooker tree), and append a > /sbin/lilo to your cooker update script (in case the update changes one > of these files). > > Booting this gives you a panel from which you can choose HD install. OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:14:02PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... > > > > That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... > > > > What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? > > alt0 is the 2.4 kernel, alt1 the 2.2. OK. Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted without problems . alt0 kernel and rdz sayz: no screens found, and complaints about some driver image not recognized. best regards Keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:14:02PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... > > > > > > That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... > > > > > > What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? > > > > alt0 is the 2.4 kernel, alt1 the 2.2. > > OK. > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > without problems . > > alt0 kernel and rdz sayz: no screens found, and complaints about xfree problem apparently? dunno. > some driver image not recognized. you could provide details on this last problem. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:14:02PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... > > > > > > > > That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... > > > > > > > > What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? > > > > > > alt0 is the 2.4 kernel, alt1 the 2.2. > > > > OK. > > > > Why does it not recognize my screen, the beta 2 cd 1 booted > > without problems . > > > > alt0 kernel and rdz sayz: no screens found, and complaints about > > xfree problem apparently? dunno. > > > some driver image not recognized. > > you could provide details on this last problem. It sayz: Intel unknown chipset (x7125) rev 3 But my mainboard and video driver has been running for something like 3 years without problems, and it boots ok in graphichs mode both with mdk 9.2 beta 2 cdrom 1 and hd.img as of the 7th aug, and the resulting X from 9.2ß2 and cooker runs without (video) problems. Best regards Keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > > > Try here: > > > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Disk_or_Network_with_No > > > > Could all of that be put into a tarball with every update, or maybe in a rpm? > > > > It's actually not necessary even, you should be able to use: > isolinux/alt1/vmlinuz > with > isolinux/alt1/all.rdz > (as found in the cooker/i586 tree) Do you really want to use 2.2.19? You should s/alt1/alt0/ so that you use latest 2.4 install kernel. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 03:47, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Le Jeudi 7 Août 2003 00:57, Frank Griffin a écrit : > > Just an idle, uninformed question, but is there any way to tell a > > Mandrake install boot (whether from CD or floppy with maybe old hd.img > > on it) to "reboot-in-place" using the hd.img from a local disk cooker > > mirror ? The object being not to have to create new hd.img boot > > floppies all of the time... > > This become an important question. More and more computer are shipped > without a floppy. Not because of its price, but only because floppy is now > useless or impossible (like VIA mini-ITX). Well, you can do an hd.img-type boot from the CD, and most small machines have a bootable CD drive, so it's not so vital for that purpose. But it'd be a very nice feature, I agree. -- adamw
[Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Just an idle, uninformed question, but is there any way to tell a Mandrake install boot (whether from CD or floppy with maybe old hd.img on it) to "reboot-in-place" using the hd.img from a local disk cooker mirror ? The object being not to have to create new hd.img boot floppies all of the time...
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Pierre Jarillon wrote: This become an important question. More and more computer are shipped without a floppy. Not because of its price, but only because floppy is now useless or impossible (like VIA mini-ITX). I have a laptop without a floppy. Then I create a bootable image with mkisofs -b using hd.img, and I burn this image to a CD-RW. Eric
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Wed 06 Aug 2003 19:47, Pierre Jarillon posted as excerpted below: > Le Jeudi 7 Août 2003 00:57, Frank Griffin a écrit : > > Just an idle, uninformed question, but is there any way to tell a > > Mandrake install boot (whether from CD or floppy with maybe old hd.img > > on it) to "reboot-in-place" using the hd.img from a local disk cooker > > mirror ? The object being not to have to create new hd.img boot > > floppies all of the time... > > This become an important question. More and more computer are shipped > without a floppy. Not because of its price, but only because floppy is now > useless or impossible (like VIA mini-ITX). Well, unless you have net booting working, you need either a floppy or a bootable CD. Since it's a good idea (and cheap) to burn at least the first CD ISO for rescue purposes anyway, and that boots and can "net install" from a local cooker mirror, I don't see a real issue (problematic laptops with removable drives where the CD isn't recognized properly, aside). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 07:06:37AM -0400, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 07 August 2003 05:24 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > See the cooker howto on the wiki, it basically involves > > loopback-mounting the image, coping the initrd image and the kernel out > > the floppy, and adding a lilo boot entry for it. Also, with this method, > > you can pass more options via LILO to set the path to your cooker mirror > > etc (I covered this in a mail on cooker a long time ago, I am not sure > > if the details made it to the wiki). > > > Yeah they did. In fact it was your posting that provided the basis for this > section of the HOWTO. > > Try here: > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Disk_or_Network_with_No Could all of that be put into a tarball with every update, or maybe in a rpm? It is easier and faster to just do everything on the harddisk, in stead of writing floppies or even burning cd's. And in the case of floppies, a had disk install can be from a bigger initrd disk than what can be on a floppy. Best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Keld Jørn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Pixel had an even better solution, which is to use isolinux/alt0 all.rdz > > and vmlinuz. Just take the LILO example from the Wiki page for using > > hd.img, substitute all.rdz for hd.rdz and vmlinuz for vmlinuz-hdimg should not be needed as all "vmlinuz" of boot floppies are the same. > > (using their actual locations in your cooker tree), and append a > > /sbin/lilo to your cooker update script (in case the update changes one > > of these files). > > > > Booting this gives you a panel from which you can choose HD install. > > OK, tried it and it worked, sort of... > > That is, it could not get my display, need to investigate further... > > What is the difference between isoinux/alt0 and alt1 ? alt0 is the 2.4 kernel, alt1 the 2.2. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Thanks everyone, the loopback solution on the Wiki page seems like just the thing I was looking for.
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > Try here: > > > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Disk_or_Network_with_No > > Could all of that be put into a tarball with every update, or maybe in a rpm? > It's actually not necessary even, you should be able to use: isolinux/alt1/vmlinuz with isolinux/alt1/all.rdz (as found in the cooker/i586 tree) Just copy them both to your /boot, add an entry to your bootloader, and if necessary, run lilo. Regards, Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Le Jeudi 7 Août 2003 00:57, Frank Griffin a écrit : > Just an idle, uninformed question, but is there any way to tell a > Mandrake install boot (whether from CD or floppy with maybe old hd.img > on it) to "reboot-in-place" using the hd.img from a local disk cooker > mirror ? The object being not to have to create new hd.img boot > floppies all of the time... This become an important question. More and more computer are shipped without a floppy. Not because of its price, but only because floppy is now useless or impossible (like VIA mini-ITX). -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> See the cooker howto on the wiki, it basically involves
> loopback-mounting the image, coping the initrd image and the kernel out
> the floppy
you can even use isolinux/alt0/{vmlinuz,all.rdz}
Re: [Cooker] hd.img without floppy ?
On Thursday 07 August 2003 05:24 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > See the cooker howto on the wiki, it basically involves > loopback-mounting the image, coping the initrd image and the kernel out > the floppy, and adding a lilo boot entry for it. Also, with this method, > you can pass more options via LILO to set the path to your cooker mirror > etc (I covered this in a mail on cooker a long time ago, I am not sure > if the details made it to the wiki). > Yeah they did. In fact it was your posting that provided the basis for this section of the HOWTO. Try here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo#Via_Hard_Disk_or_Network_with_No -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
