Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Alex Hulse
Steffen Barszus wrote:



Maybe mm has highmem integrated ? Don't know. I think it would be worth to 
have the highmem patch in normal kernel, as it is not utopic to have 1 Gig of 
ram in a desktop with current prices.
 

Seconded - my main box has 1Gb in it at the moment and the 9.1 UP kernel 
won't boot it properly.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread danny
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Austin wrote:

> 
> > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Ofcourse, discussions for 9.2 multimedia kernel are welcome...
> 
> If rivatv and effectv patches don't make it into main (as I have requested on 
> the wiki), then maybe in the mm kernel at least?

sounds good!

d.





Kernel-multimedia (WAS: [Cooker] kernel versions)

2003-07-07 Thread danny
On 7 Jul 2003, Jason Komar wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Ofcourse, discussions for 9.2 multimedia kernel are welcome...

> 
> I think highmem support for the multimedia kernel would be great. I mean
> a person could always just recompile it themselves, but I bet that most
> people doing serious audio/video work are using more than 1 GB of RAM
> (just an assumption).

Yes, well the smp version on mandrakeclub already has highmem support.

> 
> Great work on the -mm kernel by the way.
thanks.

other things I have been considering:

- only or a version for 686
- O(1)-sched (I've already finished a patch, but a few issues 
remain, also I am not sure of whether it is really a performance increase)

d.





Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Austin

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ofcourse, discussions for 9.2 multimedia kernel are welcome...
If rivatv and effectv patches don't make it into main (as I have requested on 
the wiki), then maybe in the mm kernel at least?

Austin

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Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Jason Komar
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 12:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Because I thought at first you would only want to use enterprise on 
> servers. And actually also because I thought we already had enough kernels 
> anyway. But than people started to request highmem support, so latest smp 
> kernels also had highmem support. But it was still i586, not i686 
> compiled.
> 
> Ofcourse, discussions for 9.2 multimedia kernel are welcome...
> 
> d.
> 

I think highmem support for the multimedia kernel would be great. I mean
a person could always just recompile it themselves, but I bet that most
people doing serious audio/video work are using more than 1 GB of RAM
(just an assumption).

Great work on the -mm kernel by the way.

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Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 15:46, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> I'm a bit stuck now. I just need a quick pointer. As I cann see we have the 
> following kernels
>  - normal
>  - smp
>  - enterprise
>  - secure
> -  BOOT
> 
> BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile a 
> driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the 
> normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ? 

And enterprise, since UP users with 1GB of RAM or more (like myself) use
it.
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Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread danny
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Compiling for -mm kernel should be no different from normal kernel,
> since -mm kernel also has smp and source packages (why no enterprise?).

Because I thought at first you would only want to use enterprise on 
servers. And actually also because I thought we already had enough kernels 
anyway. But than people started to request highmem support, so latest smp 
kernels also had highmem support. But it was still i586, not i686 
compiled.

Ofcourse, discussions for 9.2 multimedia kernel are welcome...

d.





Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 19:37 schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 15:46, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > I'm a bit stuck now. I just need a quick pointer. As I cann see we have
> > the following kernels
> >  - normal
> >  - smp
> >  - enterprise
> >  - secure
> > -  BOOT
> >
> > BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile a
> > driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the
> > normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ?
>
> And enterprise, since UP users with 1GB of RAM or more (like myself) use
> it.

enterprise is SMP. AVM seems not to be able to write these driver SMP capable. 
So an SMP kernel would crash really fast with these drivers (There exists a 
patch for the USB devices that at least wont let the driver crash the kernel. 
But this patch is untested with a real SMP system and the patch can not be 
used with all devices so I just don't build for SMP. 

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Montag, 7. Juli 2003 18:38 schrieb Buchan Milne:
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> Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> > Quoting Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile
> >>a
> >>driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the
> >>
> >>normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ?
> >
> > i would assume enterpreise too ( for people with more then 1G RAM)
> > and may be for multimedia kernel ?
>
> But enterprise is SMP (and I think Steffen's modules don't like SMP).

Yep thats the case. Thats why I asked for UP aka uni-processor kernels ;)

> In most cases, kernel modules (ie winmodem, NVidia) are provided for up,
> smp, enterprise, but I suspect there may be reasons why Steffen would
> want to provide modules for secure (which would also make one wonder if
> it is worthwhile providing kernel modules for winmodems for secure
> kernel, since people may be using a winmodem on an ICS box or similar).

Thats why I wanted to get modules for the secure kernel too. For multimedia I 
guess its just installing the mm-sources and compile the same package against 
it ? Haven't done it yet. 

> Compiling for -mm kernel should be no different from normal kernel,
> since -mm kernel also has smp and source packages (why no enterprise?).

Maybe mm has highmem integrated ? Don't know. I think it would be worth to 
have the highmem patch in normal kernel, as it is not utopic to have 1 Gig of 
ram in a desktop with current prices.

Thanks for the replies, I wanted to make sure to dont miss a kernel with a 
rebuild of my package. 

Steffen



Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
Quoting Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi !
> 
> I'm a bit stuck now. I just need a quick pointer. As I cann see we have
> the 
> following kernels
>  - normal
>  - smp
>  - enterprise
>  - secure
> -  BOOT
> 
> BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile
> a 
> driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the
> 
> normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ? 

i would assume enterpreise too ( for people with more then 1G RAM)
and may be for multimedia kernel ?

svetljo



Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Buchan Milne
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Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
> Quoting Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>
>>BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile
>>a
>>driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the
>>
>>normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ?
>
>
> i would assume enterpreise too ( for people with more then 1G RAM)
> and may be for multimedia kernel ?

But enterprise is SMP (and I think Steffen's modules don't like SMP).

In most cases, kernel modules (ie winmodem, NVidia) are provided for up,
smp, enterprise, but I suspect there may be reasons why Steffen would
want to provide modules for secure (which would also make one wonder if
it is worthwhile providing kernel modules for winmodems for secure
kernel, since people may be using a winmodem on an ICS box or similar).

Compiling for -mm kernel should be no different from normal kernel,
since -mm kernel also has smp and source packages (why no enterprise?).

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Steffen Barszus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm a bit stuck now. I just need a quick pointer. As I cann see we
> have the following kernels
>  - normal
>  - smp
>  - enterprise
>  - secure
> -  BOOT
> 
> BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want
> compile a driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to
> provide them for the normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I
> right ?

up, smp, enterprise and secure (in the most used order)

and BOOT if you plan to be able to install from that piece of
hardware.




[Cooker] kernel versions

2003-07-07 Thread Steffen Barszus
Hi !

I'm a bit stuck now. I just need a quick pointer. As I cann see we have the 
following kernels
 - normal
 - smp
 - enterprise
 - secure
-  BOOT

BOOT I suspect to be the kernel for install disks, so if I want compile a 
driver package for all Mandrake UP kernel I have to provide them for the 
normal kernel and the secure kernel, am I right ? 

Thanks

Steffen