[Cooker] laptop config rpm?
Since laptops seem to have the most peculiarities, while at the same time being populated by quite a few newbies... why not create an rpm with known specifics for certain laptops. For instance a Dell Inspiron rpm would include a script that would place noapic on the append statement, load the Dell modules for volume control and maybe even enable the cdrom control with xmms or some other such program. Then during install you could ask a question along the lines of laptop, server, desktop? and if laptop, they could choose their laptop or even brand (like Dell) or just a generic if not on the list. Then most issues would be resolved up front. You also have the added bonus of dedicated users doing fine tweaks for their laptops that can make it into these rpms. Can I see a Mandrake laptop users club? :-} = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] A requirement of creativity is that it contributes to change. Creativity keeps the creator alive. -FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] laptop config rpm?
Love the idea. Having one of these beasts and just getting the knowledge to set it up has been a long haul - but worth it in the long run! Too late for 8.2, but in the next release would allow Mandrake to take over the laptop Linux market! - no competition in sight, a perfect niche! BillK On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 17:10, SI Reasoning wrote: Since laptops seem to have the most peculiarities, while at the same time being populated by quite a few newbies... why not create an rpm with known specifics for certain laptops. For instance a Dell Inspiron rpm would include a script that would place noapic on the append statement, load the Dell modules for volume control and maybe even enable the cdrom control with xmms or some other such program. Then during install you could ask a question along the lines of laptop, server, desktop? and if laptop, they could choose their laptop or even brand (like Dell) or just a generic if not on the list. Then most issues would be resolved up front. You also have the added bonus of dedicated users doing fine tweaks for their laptops that can make it into these rpms. Can I see a Mandrake laptop users club? :-} = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] A requirement of creativity is that it contributes to change. Creativity keeps the creator alive. -FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] laptop config rpm?
On Fri Mar 08 17:44 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Love the idea. Having one of these beasts and just getting the knowledge to set it up has been a long haul - but worth it in the long run! Too late for 8.2, but in the next release would allow Mandrake to take over the laptop Linux market! - no competition in sight, a perfect niche! A laptop-i-fied distro is also an idea I've toyed with. You could put a few packages that might enhance network client use, while not putting servers besides an mta, maybe minimal apache. Replace some more server oriented modules with things like wireless lan out of the box. Hell, sell it as a separate edition of the distro through Mandrake Store. Have every boxed retail version have a little card saying, if you have a laptop, might we interest you in Mandrake Linux 9.0 Portable Edition, which contains all sorts of packages that are tailored for the requirements of the road warrior. Some people would buy a desktop edition, a server edition, and a portable edition. That's three sales where before there might have been 1 or 2. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When it comes down to desperation, You make the best of your situation. Linux 2.4.17-20mdk 5:01am up 10 days, 14:43, 17 users, load average: 0.20, 0.15, 0.19
Re: [Cooker] laptop config rpm?
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:40:49AM -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Fri Mar 08 17:44 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: A laptop-i-fied distro is also an idea I've toyed with. You could put a few packages that might enhance network client use, while not putting servers besides an mta, maybe minimal apache. Replace some more server oriented modules with things like wireless lan out of the box. I am not sure what you mean here. My laptop is faster and has more memory than my stationary, and I use it as a travelling server. I would regret if Mandrakes laptop edition was not supporting full server capabilities. Keld
Re: [Cooker] laptop config rpm?
On Fri Mar 08 13:39 +0100, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:40:49AM -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Fri Mar 08 17:44 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: A laptop-i-fied distro is also an idea I've toyed with. You could put a few packages that might enhance network client use, while not putting servers besides an mta, maybe minimal apache. Replace some more server oriented modules with things like wireless lan out of the box. I am not sure what you mean here. My laptop is faster and has more memory than my stationary, and I use it as a travelling server. I would regret if Mandrakes laptop edition was not supporting full server capabilities. In which case, since the laptop and desktop versions would only differ in some configuration details (like how the kernel was compiled) and which packages make the CDs, the hypothetical 9.0 Desktop and 9.0 Laptop (and in theory, the 9.0 Server, though there could be more room for differences there...) would be effectively the same distribution. So you could snag the server rpms from Cooker (or from desktop CD's) and install those. There is no intrinsic reason why a Portable Edition couldn't have servers. But there's a finite number of packages which can be squeezed on to 2-3 CDs. There are probably a good number of packages in contrib that are marginally useful on a desktop (and so are not high priority and get relegated to the 3rd CD or not included), but are very useful on a laptop. Conversely, in general, I would assume that very few laptops are running bind or dhcp server. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When it comes down to desperation, You make the best of your situation. Linux 2.4.17-20mdk 8:01am up 10 days, 17:43, 16 users, load average: 0.37, 0.27, 0.21
Re: [Cooker] laptop config rpm?
I was thinking of something a bit more scaled back, with maybe contribs offering more extravagent offerings. I just know that there are a few tweaks specific to each laptop, vanilla tweaks like extra keys, workarounds for things like apic, stuff like that. This would make it easy to have the laptop running with the core expected basics working properly. Maybe if Mandrake had a laptop specific page then people could share their .config files for those who wish to compile an optimised kernel, and things such as that. Maybe even offer auto-install disks that can be downloaded for optimised quick and easy installs for newbies. They could be like themes... --- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Mar 08 13:39 +0100, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:40:49AM -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Fri Mar 08 17:44 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: A laptop-i-fied distro is also an idea I've toyed with. You could put a few packages that might enhance network client use, while not putting servers besides an mta, maybe minimal apache. Replace some more server oriented modules with things like wireless lan out of the box. I am not sure what you mean here. My laptop is faster and has more memory than my stationary, and I use it as a travelling server. I would regret if Mandrakes laptop edition was not supporting full server capabilities. In which case, since the laptop and desktop versions would only differ in some configuration details (like how the kernel was compiled) and which packages make the CDs, the hypothetical 9.0 Desktop and 9.0 Laptop (and in theory, the 9.0 Server, though there could be more room for differences there...) would be effectively the same distribution. So you could snag the server rpms from Cooker (or from desktop CD's) and install those. There is no intrinsic reason why a Portable Edition couldn't have servers. But there's a finite number of packages which can be squeezed on to 2-3 CDs. There are probably a good number of packages in contrib that are marginally useful on a desktop (and so are not high priority and get relegated to the 3rd CD or not included), but are very useful on a laptop. Conversely, in general, I would assume that very few laptops are running bind or dhcp server. -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When it comes down to desperation, You make the best of your situation. Linux 2.4.17-20mdk 8:01am up 10 days, 17:43, 16 users, load average: 0.37, 0.27, 0.21 = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] A requirement of creativity is that it contributes to change. Creativity keeps the creator alive. -FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
