Hi Reiser installed, and no corny messages in the logs. But the boot disk was rejected as non bootable. I am in because because I wrote it to the boot sector of hda. I have concluded that I have caused more traffic and more problems than I could possibly have detected as bugs, so I have decided that I do not qualify in this division, I can equally follow your work from the list archive. Thanks for the time and keep up the speed of evolution. guran