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I meant to send this to the list, but it doesn't have the Reply to
header set to the list.  Most other messages (but not all) from the list
have the Reply to header set to the list,  which made me think the list
software sets that header.  Does it?  Should it?  (It seems to on emails
I send to the list.)

Thanks,
Randy Kramer


I just want to second Sarang's proposals for name changes.

Thanks,
Randy Kramer

Sarang Lakare wrote:
> - I have said this before.. but I am repeating.. give good names to your
> configuration programs. Can anybody tell me what sort of order is there in
> these names? : DrakConf, mousedrake, XFDrake, draknet etc..
> 
> First of all the "drake" comes anywhere.. there is no thought given to
> cases.. "drake" is sometimes "drak" (draknet etc.)...
> I propose to get rid of that "drake" word.. it may be very obvious to people
> at LM, but its strange for others/new_users. Mandrake is now pretty famous
> and they don't need to put "drake" into every other name.
> 
> Here is a my new proposal for naming:
> "setup" - to setup/configure u're system
> by default, setup will run DrakConf (yes.. now u can simply simlink setup ->
> DrakConf and keep those "drake" names which are obvious to you)
> "setup" will take parameters.. "setup mouse" will start mousedrake, "setup X"
> will start XFDrake, "setup network" will start draknet and so on...
> This is very similar to the excellent "service <service_name>
> start/stop/status".. as a heavy user, i find such things really simple.. I
> work with RH, SUSE and others too.. and I hate that all distros have their
> own names for setting up stuff.. so please think seriously about this issue..
> its a simple question of writing a script called "setup" which will look at
> the input and run the appropriate command. So in future even if u decide to
> change the names of u're executables, it'll be always transparent to the
> end-user.
> Same goes with the desktop.. why "DrakConf" and that
> not-so-professional-looking icon for configuration? Why not simply name it
> "Setup" or "System Configuration"?? Internall it'll run DrakConf .. thats
> fine.. but why are u forcing user to remember "DrakConf"? Again this is very
> easy for u guys to do.. I have a lot of really good people here and when they
> ask how to setup something, I am surprised.. coz even though they work on the
> machine, they often miss that "DrakConf" icon on the screen.. firstly coz the
> icon is not-so-obvious, and secondly, coz the name "DrakConf" is
> not-so-obvious. So pleassseee change this!
> 
> - Add a call to DrakConf from inside Gnome and KDE control centers.. that way
> users have a central place to go to all the time.
> 
> Thats it.. hoping to see these trivial but very important modifications
> before the next beta..
> 
> People who have earlier given excellent reviews for LM 7.2 and who rated it
> as the best distro, are now doing the same to SUSE.. coz they have done real
> improvements to the GUI (although they are still behind you guys in terms of
> h/w detection and they don't have ISOs!!!). Implement the above suggestions
> and see u're ratings gove past SUSE 7.1 again!
> 
> Remember that the above suggestions are from a person not working at
> MandrakeSoft, is a heavy user of linux, deals with a lot of distros and
> understands what new users/newbies are looking for!
> 
> thanks for reading
> sarang
> 
> PS : This is the right time for you guys to change names and implement a new
> policy.. since u are moving from 7.2 to 8.0.. Also remember that I am not
> saying get rid of "DrakConf" name.. it'll still be there.. but in all u're
> demos, tutorials, teach the user to use "setup", "setup mouse" etc.. Those
> who do remember DrakConf will be able to run it anyway!
>



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