RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrej Borsenkow


> 
> What about HTTP-AUTH?  I need to authenticate when going online - for
> billing stuff.  In my browser, I'm prompted for username/password.
> 

I guess, no. At least nothing in manuals. 

-andrej




RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrej Borsenkow

> On 20010829 Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> >On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote:
> >> > With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others:
> >> > Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based
its
> list
> >> > updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file
each
> time,
> >> > it could only fetch the incremental changes.
> >> >
> >>   From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data,
and
> the
> >> hdlist are gzipped.
> >>
> >
> >And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute
(at
> >most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not*
12MB
> >in any case.
> >
> 
> I suppose that rsync uses a listing (just names) to check packages,
like
> good,old
> MandrakeUpdate before the mix with rpmdrake.
> 

No. It works differently (what has listing to do with downloading a
single file?)

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-30 Thread J . A . Magallon


On 20010829 Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote:
>> > With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others:
>> > Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list
>> > updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time,
>> > it could only fetch the incremental changes.
>> >
>>   From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the
>> hdlist are gzipped.
>>
>
>And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute (at
>most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not* 12MB
>in any case.
>

I suppose that rsync uses a listing (just names) to check packages, like good,old
MandrakeUpdate before the mix with rpmdrake.

Could anybody add a check based just on 'ls' (or ftp listing), instead of 12 Mb of
hdlist ?. I found stupid to reload the full listing every night when checking
cooker updates. That is why I use gftp with reverse-date listings...

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RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrej Borsenkow


> > Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive
choice of
> > course but as option.
> 
> Right.  Not exclusive!  ftp or at least http works about everywhere
thru
> every firewall.  But rsync?  Yes, at home I use rsync whenever
possible
> - but at work I wouldn't be able to use rsync, thanks to the firewall.
> 

1. runsocks rsync ...

needs SOCKS proxy of course

2. export RSYNC_PROXY=:
as long as proxy does not block CONNECT to non-437 ports (which is
paranoid) it works like a charm. How do you think I use rsync? :-)

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-29 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Borsenkow Andrej« am 2001-08-29 um 11:12:33 +0400 :
> Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive choice of
> course but as option.

Right.  Not exclusive!  ftp or at least http works about everywhere thru
every firewall.  But rsync?  Yes, at home I use rsync whenever possible
- but at work I wouldn't be able to use rsync, thanks to the firewall.

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Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-29 Thread Randy Kramer

David Odin wrote:
>   From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the
> hdlist are gzipped.

Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (in a different
thread) "The most notable case is
hdlists; with lftp you get 15MB every time, with rsycn you get several
KB (well, in order of magnitude :-). "

That would seem to indicate that rsync handles compressed data well
enough.

Randy Kramer




Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-29 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, David Odin wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote:
> > With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others:
> > Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list
> > updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time,
> > it could only fetch the incremental changes.
> >
>   From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the
> hdlist are gzipped.
>

And I use it every day and rsyncing hdlist takes less then one minute (at
most) with line at about 20KB/s. That is no more than 1MB and *not* 12MB
in any case.

-andrej




RE: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-29 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

> 
> With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others:
> Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its
list
> updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each
time,
> it could only fetch the incremental changes.
> 

Yep, I was about to post the same but forgot. Not as exclusive choice of
course but as option.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Software Manager and rsync?

2001-08-29 Thread David Odin

On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:00:03AM +0200, Eivind Eriksen wrote:
> With all the resent talk about rsync vs. others:
> Would'nt it be better if Software Manager (MandrakeUpdate) based its list
> updating on rsync? Instead of retreaving the whole (~12MB) file each time,
> it could only fetch the incremental changes.
> 
  From what I've heard, rsync isn't that good with compressed data, and the
hdlist are gzipped.

  DindinX

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