Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something got broken! It used to work fine. Sound blaster awe32 pnp card worked great. Now it doesn't work. was answering to "it isn't ISA in general". for awe32 we have sometimes problems, mainly related with other cards conflicting, or related to reserving IRQ's in the BIOS. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. It's because in the PCI world a card can identify itself much more extensively than in the ISA world. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Lorne, Are you using the OSS or ALSA drivers? I have an AWE64 that works fine, but it didn't work straight away when I changed from OSS to ALSA. On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, you wrote: Something got broken! It used to work fine. Sound blaster awe32 pnp card worked great. Now it doesn't work. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. It's because in the PCI world a card can identify itself much more extensively than in the ISA world. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- -- Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
I put in an ethernet card today. (detected and configured by HardDrake :) ) While I had the box open I took out that modem I never used (it was a WinModem as it turns out, big surprise). Then I removed ALSA and ran HardDrake, this time it correctly configured the card. So it was the $^@ up WinModem that was lousing up the process. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBSICQ# 76308382 West Dover Hundred, Delaware
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Something got broken! It used to work fine. Sound blaster awe32 pnp card worked great. Now it doesn't work. Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. It's because in the PCI world a card can identify itself much more extensively than in the ISA world. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have three cards, a video card, a sound card, and a modem. I know the video card is PCI, so the sound card and the modem must be the ISA cards. I do not know anything about the modem; I do not even no if it is a WinModem or not since I have never attempted to use it (it came with the computer, but I use an external I have had since before I got this computer.) I am looking though the paperwork that came with the computer, but I am pretty sure I remember chucking the modem manual into the trash during a recent cleanup of my files. I do know that both wvdial and HardDrake only detect my external, not that one so it probably is a WinModem. Try to remove winmodem from your system... -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Alexandre
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. It's because in the PCI world a card can identify itself much more extensively than in the ISA world. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 12:37:38PM +0200, Alexandre Dussart wrote: Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [root@localhost hgebel]# sounddrake Can't read /usr/share/harddrake/soundcard Error in pnpdump call... Seems to be an error in pnpdump call...what's contains /etc/isapnp.conf? There is no /etc/isapnp.conf , there is /etc/isapnp.gone ; here are it's contents: What's say pnpdump? -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Alexandre
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 09:23:24AM +0200, Alexandre Dussart wrote:
What's say pnpdump?
# $Id: pnpdump.c,v 1.21 1999/12/09 22:28:33 fox Exp $
# Release isapnptools-1.21b (library isapnptools-1.21b)
#
# This is free software, see the sources for details.
# This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK
#
# For details of the output file format, see isapnp.conf(5)
#
# For latest information and FAQ on isapnp and pnpdump see:
# http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/
#
# Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER -DABORT_ONRESERR
# (for library: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER -DABORT_ONRESERR)
#
# Trying port address 0273
# Board 1 has serial identifier a3 ff ff ff ff 10 01 93 05
# Board 2 has serial identifier 1d 80 00 00 00 01 1c 2e 02
# (DEBUG)
(READPORT 0x0273)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
(CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING
# Card 1: (serial identifier a3 ff ff ff ff 10 01 93 05)
# Vendor Id ALS0110, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xA3.
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.0
# ANSI string --PnP Sound Chip--
#
# Logical device id @@@1001
# Device supports I/O range check register
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x38
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x39
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3d
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3f
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy
(CONFIGURE ALS0110/-1 (LD 0
# Multiple choice time, choose one only !
# Start dependent functions: priority preferred
# Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0220
# Maximum IO base address 0x0220
# IO base alignment 16 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220) (CHECK))
# IRQ 5.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
# First DMA channel 1.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))
# Next DMA channel 0 or 3.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0))
# Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
# Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0220
# Maximum IO base address 0x0280
# IO base alignment 32 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220) (CHECK))
# IRQ 5, 7, 9, 10 or 11.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
# First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
# Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0))
# Start dependent functions: priority functional
# Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0100
# Maximum IO base address 0x03f0
# IO base alignment 16 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0100) (CHECK))
# IRQ 5, 7, 9, 10 or 11.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
# First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
# End dependent functions
(NAME "ALS0110/-1[0]{PnP Sound Chip }")
# (ACT Y)
))
#
# Logical device id @H@1001
# Device supports I/O range check register
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x38
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x39
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b
# Device supports vendor reserved
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # Card 2: (serial identifier 1d 80 00 00 00 01 1c 2e 02) # Vendor Id @QN1c01, Serial Number 2147483648, checksum 0x1D. # Ident byte 0, (02) differs from resource data (40) #Assuming the card is broken and this is the start of the resource data # Bad tag length for IOport_TAG in 0x00 # Bad tag length in 0x40 # Resource data dump aborted Seems you've problems with another ISA card, how many ISA cards do you have? and description of theses cards... -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Alexandre
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 05:54:24PM +0200, Alexandre Dussart wrote: Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # Card 2: (serial identifier 1d 80 00 00 00 01 1c 2e 02) # Vendor Id @QN1c01, Serial Number 2147483648, checksum 0x1D. # Ident byte 0, (02) differs from resource data (40) #Assuming the card is broken and this is the start of the resource data # Bad tag length for IOport_TAG in 0x00 # Bad tag length in 0x40 # Resource data dump aborted Seems you've problems with another ISA card, how many ISA cards do you have? and description of theses cards... I have three cards, a video card, a sound card, and a modem. I know the video card is PCI, so the sound card and the modem must be the ISA cards. I do not know anything about the modem; I do not even no if it is a WinModem or not since I have never attempted to use it (it came with the computer, but I use an external I have had since before I got this computer.) I am looking though the paperwork that came with the computer, but I am pretty sure I remember chucking the modem manual into the trash during a recent cleanup of my files. I do know that both wvdial and HardDrake only detect my external, not that one so it probably is a WinModem. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBSICQ# 76308382 West Dover Hundred, Delaware
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Harry Henry Gebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I installed cooker from rsync last weekend, and was able to get everything working but sound, I asked about it on the list but no one was able to help, I am asking again because this is problem is really starting to get to me, I REALLY like cooker/7.1 but if I cannot get sound working I will have to switch back to 7.0 (which set up the sound card with no intervention from me except running Lothar). I consider sound support a necessity. HardDrake version shipped with 7.1 is exactly the same version as 7.0(only name has been changed). This is the correct information, when I click "run configuration tool" a window comes up with IRQ, I/O base, etc. Under Mandrake 7.0 I just clicked OK here and sound worked after that, but on cooker the window just goes away when I click OK and sound still does not work. could you check if 'sox' package is present by doing: rpm -q sox? could you run sounddrake from a xterm and recopy xterm output after pressing ok, please? [SNIP] There is no reference to any sound modules, I thought that HardDrake was supposed to put the appropriate references there am I wrong about this or is HardDrake failing somehow? HardDrake don't write anything in you conf.modules, and now we must know why. Greets, Alex. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Alexandre
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
I'm wondering since your card is ISA and I have trouble with an ISA card, if it isn't ISA in general. ?? I went and bought a PCI sound card and it works fine now. Something is hosed for all ISA sound I think. Harry Henry Gebel wrote: I installed cooker from rsync last weekend, and was able to get everything working but sound, I asked about it on the list but no one was able to help, I am asking again because this is problem is really starting to get to me, I REALLY like cooker/7.1 but if I cannot get sound working I will have to switch back to 7.0 (which set up the sound card with no intervention from me except running Lothar). I consider sound support a necessity. HardDrake succesfully detected my sound card as: Vendor: Advance Logic Model: ALS-110 Bus type: ISA MPU401: yes OPL3: yes DMA2/16: yes This is the correct information, when I click "run configuration tool" a window comes up with IRQ, I/O base, etc. Under Mandrake 7.0 I just clicked OK here and sound worked after that, but on cooker the window just goes away when I click OK and sound still does not work. I tried running (as root) `/etc/rc.d/init.d/sound start` but it simply goes strait back to the command prompt; in Mandrake 7.0 I am pretty sure it gave a message to the effect that sound was being loaded and an indication of whether it succeeded or not, but with cooker it appears to instantly return to the command prompt with no output whatsoever. I looked inside the script, and I am not a terribly good shell programmer but it looks like I should be seeing the messages Loading sound module Loading midi module And I do not see these messages when I run 'sound start'. I also looks like it loads the modules by searching in /etc/conf.modules for the strings "sound", "sound-slot-0", and "midi" and modprobeing the modules it finds there. I think that this is the failure point because here is my /etc/conf.modules : alias scsi_hostadapter1 ppa post-install usb-storage modprobe usbkbd; modprobe keybdev alias scsi_hostadapter usb-storage alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 /proc/parport/0/irq alias block-major-11 scsi_hostadapter alias usb-interface usb-uhci pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start post-install supermount modprobe scsi_hostadapter ; modprobe scsi_hostadapter1 There is no reference to any sound modules, I thought that HardDrake was supposed to put the appropriate references there am I wrong about this or is HardDrake failing somehow? I am ashamed to say that as much as I like sound, I have never learned about how OSS works; relying instead on RedHat's and Mandrake's sound configuration programs to figure out the correct lines for conf.modules; so I do not know on my own what lines to put here. If I had been smart I would have copied the conf.modules from 7.0 before installing cooker, but I wasn't smart so here I am now. I have faith that you guys can help me if I give you enough info, so if I am not giving enough information please tell me what you need to know. PS, I do not have any USB equipment, so is it safe for me to remove all those usb lines? I rmmod all the modules but they just show up in /proc/modules again when I reboot. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
RE: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
This link may help, about 3/4 of the way down they have information on your card http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-12.html The module name needed for the sound is sb.o, so maybe something like: alias sound sb options sound IRQ=7 IO=220 DMA=1 or something like that.. I don't know how it would look exactly, but it also seems you can look at: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/SoundBlaster on how to setup the SoundBlaster compatable ( your card ) card up in the conf.modules file, that or download the redhat sound utility :) try running "setup" as root, does the old redhat setups screen popup maybe? Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: Harry Henry Gebel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited I installed cooker from rsync last weekend, and was able to get everything working but sound, I asked about it on the list but no one was able to help, I am asking again because this is problem is really starting to get to me, I REALLY like cooker/7.1 but if I cannot get sound working I will have to switch back to 7.0 (which set up the sound card with no intervention from me except running Lothar). I consider sound support a necessity. HardDrake succesfully detected my sound card as: Vendor: Advance Logic Model: ALS-110 Bus type: ISA MPU401: yes OPL3: yes DMA2/16: yes This is the correct information, when I click "run configuration tool" a window comes up with IRQ, I/O base, etc. Under Mandrake 7.0 I just clicked OK here and sound worked after that, but on cooker the window just goes away when I click OK and sound still does not work. I tried running (as root) `/etc/rc.d/init.d/sound start` but it simply goes strait back to the command prompt; in Mandrake 7.0 I am pretty sure it gave a message to the effect that sound was being loaded and an indication of whether it succeeded or not, but with cooker it appears to instantly return to the command prompt with no output whatsoever. I looked inside the script, and I am not a terribly good shell programmer but it looks like I should be seeing the messages Loading sound module Loading midi module And I do not see these messages when I run 'sound start'. I also looks like it loads the modules by searching in /etc/conf.modules for the strings "sound", "sound-slot-0", and "midi" and modprobeing the modules it finds there. I think that this is the failure point because here is my /etc/conf.modules : alias scsi_hostadapter1 ppa post-install usb-storage modprobe usbkbd; modprobe keybdev alias scsi_hostadapter usb-storage alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 /proc/parport/0/irq alias block-major-11 scsi_hostadapter alias usb-interface usb-uhci pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start post-install supermount modprobe scsi_hostadapter ; modprobe scsi_hostadapter1 There is no reference to any sound modules, I thought that HardDrake was supposed to put the appropriate references there am I wrong about this or is HardDrake failing somehow? I am ashamed to say that as much as I like sound, I have never learned about how OSS works; relying instead on RedHat's and Mandrake's sound configuration programs to figure out the correct lines for conf.modules; so I do not know on my own what lines to put here. If I had been smart I would have copied the conf.modules from 7.0 before installing cooker, but I wasn't smart so here I am now. I have faith that you guys can help me if I give you enough info, so if I am not giving enough information please tell me what you need to know. PS, I do not have any USB equipment, so is it safe for me to remove all those usb lines? I rmmod all the modules but they just show up in /proc/modules again when I reboot. -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
I just got the sound card working, I installed ALSA, and ran the commands modprobe snd-card-als100 modprobe snd-pcm-oss Then I ran a mixer to turn on the volume. Now can anybody tell me what lines to add to conf.modules to make this happen when I run `sound start`? -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
RE: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
A quick/cheap fix might be to put both of those lines in the end of your rc.local file ( the last file that is exec'd after your machine comes up ) Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: Harry Henry Gebel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 7:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited I just got the sound card working, I installed ALSA, and ran the commands modprobe snd-card-als100 modprobe snd-pcm-oss Then I ran a mixer to turn on the volume. Now can anybody tell me what lines to add to conf.modules to make this happen when I run `sound start`? -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited
Recommend that you go to http://www.alsa-project.org , the Documentation page and download the information on installation and FAQ. A quick/cheap fix might be to put both of those lines in the end of your rc.local file ( the last file that is exec'd after your machine comes up ) Riyad Kalla Java Programmer Game Enthusiast -Original Message- From: Harry Henry Gebel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 7:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound problem revisited I just got the sound card working, I installed ALSA, and ran the commands modprobe snd-card-als100 modprobe snd-pcm-oss Then I ran a mixer to turn on the volume. Now can anybody tell me what lines to add to conf.modules to make this happen when I run `sound start`? -- Harry Henry Gebel, Senior Developer, Landon House SBS West Dover Hundred, Delaware
