Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-23 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Tom Berger« am 2001-08-23 um 13:41:37 +0200 :
> But you can choose not to run KDE. That's a bit different, don't you
> think?

Theoretically, yes.  But with 32 MB of RAM, I don't think that 120k are
that much after all.

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Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-23 Thread Tom Berger

On Aug 23 2001, 15:11 +, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> > 
> > OK. You can of course do that. Didn't consider that option. The only
> > drawback, though, is that ACPI bloats the kernel by 120K.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Is it a joke? 128MB was not enough to run KDE normally - I could only
> hear my HD swapping. And you care about 120K? Of course, I do not
> suggest including it into boot kernel.
> 
> -andrej
---tom:--- 

But you can choose not to run KDE. That's a bit different, don't you
think?

tom

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RE: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-23 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

> 
> OK. You can of course do that. Didn't consider that option. The only
> drawback, though, is that ACPI bloats the kernel by 120K.
> 
> 

Is it a joke? 128MB was not enough to run KDE normally - I could only
hear my HD swapping. And you care about 120K? Of course, I do not
suggest including it into boot kernel.

-andrej

> On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
> 
> >
> > > No. If you compile in support for ACPI it gets precedence over APM
:-(
> > > (ACPI is not available as a module).
> > >
> >
> > Have you really tested it? I did and it works. If you compile in
both
> > and specify noacpi command-line kernel option ACPI is not started.
And
> > (I have currently no kernel sources) I bet it can be made default.
> >
> > -andrej
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SI Reasoning wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
> > > > choose which module to use?
> > > >
> > > > --- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's a new acpid:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well that doen't change anything since we don't
> > > > > use acpid
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =
> > > > SI Reasoning
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo!
> > Messenger
> > > > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> >
> >





RE: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-23 Thread Eivind Eriksen

OK. You can of course do that. Didn't consider that option. The only
drawback, though, is that ACPI bloats the kernel by 120K.


On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

>
> > No. If you compile in support for ACPI it gets precedence over APM :-(
> > (ACPI is not available as a module).
> >
>
> Have you really tested it? I did and it works. If you compile in both
> and specify noacpi command-line kernel option ACPI is not started. And
> (I have currently no kernel sources) I bet it can be made default.
>
> -andrej
>
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SI Reasoning wrote:
> >
> > > Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
> > > choose which module to use?
> > >
> > > --- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > There's a new acpid:
> > > > >
> > > > > well that doen't change anything since we don't
> > > > use acpid
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =
> > > SI Reasoning
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo!
> Messenger
> > > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
>
>





RE: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


> No. If you compile in support for ACPI it gets precedence over APM :-(
> (ACPI is not available as a module).
>

Have you really tested it? I did and it works. If you compile in both
and specify noacpi command-line kernel option ACPI is not started. And
(I have currently no kernel sources) I bet it can be made default.

-andrej
 
> 
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SI Reasoning wrote:
> 
> > Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
> > choose which module to use?
> >
> > --- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > There's a new acpid:
> > > >
> > > > well that doen't change anything since we don't
> > > use acpid
> > > >
> > >
> > > well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =
> > SI Reasoning
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo!
Messenger
> > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/





Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread SI Reasoning

Is there not a script that you could create to allow
for the choice between the two? Make it part of the
install script and part of mcc?

--- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. If you compile in support for ACPI it gets
> precedence over APM :-(
> (ACPI is not available as a module).
> 
> 
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SI Reasoning wrote:
> 
> > Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
> > choose which module to use?
> >
> > --- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > There's a new acpid:
> > > >
> > > > well that doen't change anything since we
> don't
> > > use acpid
> > > >
> > >
> > > well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > =
> > SI Reasoning
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute
> with Yahoo! Messenger
> > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> 
> 


=
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Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread Eivind Eriksen

No. If you compile in support for ACPI it gets precedence over APM :-(
(ACPI is not available as a module).


On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SI Reasoning wrote:

> Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
> choose which module to use?
>
> --- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> >
> > > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > There's a new acpid:
> > >
> > > well that doen't change anything since we don't
> > use acpid
> > >
> >
> > well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> >
> >
>
>
> =
> SI Reasoning
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
> http://phonecard.yahoo.com/





Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread SI Reasoning

Could acpid be included in the kernel and let us
choose which module to use?

--- Eivind Eriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> > "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > There's a new acpid:
> >
> > well that doen't change anything since we don't
> use acpid
> >
> 
> well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.
> 
> 


=
SI Reasoning
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RE: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


> 
> > There's a new acpid:
> 
> well that doen't change anything since we don't use acpid

Why? As I already wrote - if you compile both ACPI and APM and use
noacpi (I guess - have to check), it won't be used. Actually, I believe,
it can be made default, so people who want to test ACPI will do it and
others won't even notice it.

I personally would like to see my system finally doing Suspend to RAM,
just like Windows.

-andrej





Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread Eivind Eriksen

On 22 Aug 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:

> "Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > There's a new acpid:
>
> well that doen't change anything since we don't use acpid
>

well, I do - after I compile the kernel my self.





Re: [Cooker] acpid

2001-08-22 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

"Chris Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There's a new acpid:

well that doen't change anything since we don't use acpid