Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
le jeu 17-01-2002 à 16:36, Murray Root a écrit : Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Bricart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the idea about You have not chosen any package collections - would you like 1. a minimal install, 2. no X, However, urpmi should be part of minimal .. hmff :-( here we go, what's the definition of minimal... A package installer and a commandline to run it from. true, it's like debian. Install the minimum and apt-get what u want. So install the minimum and urpmi what I want instead of having to deal by hand with the package I may want to add. For example I do a minimal install and after I urpmi apache and all apache related stuffs ( php support and others modules ) just to do a an apache server on a crappy 586 box, etc ... [will@bastard dir_test]$ rpm -q --requires urpmi eject webfetch perl-DateManip = 5.40 perl-gettext rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 rpmtools = 4.0 /bin/sh /bin/sh rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 bash perl-base [will@bastard dir_test]$ urpmf --size curl libcurl2:size:277703 curl:size:143842 libcurl2-devel:size:315458 [will@bastard dir_test]$ urpmf --size wget gwget:size:119251 wget:size:956914 curl is much smaller than wget so curl should be installed by default. -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - I bought some used paint. It was in the shape of a house. -- Steven Wright
RE: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
true, it's like debian. Install the minimum and apt-get what u want. Urpmi is not minimum So install the minimum and urpmi what I want instead of having to deal by hand with the package I may want to add. For example I do a minimal install and after I urpmi apache and all apache related stuffs ( php support and others modules ) just to do a an apache server on a crappy 586 box, etc ... [will@bastard dir_test]$ rpm -q --requires urpmi eject webfetch perl-DateManip = 5.40 perl-gettext rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 rpmtools = 4.0 /bin/sh /bin/sh rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 bash perl-base Not quite true. It pulls such things like XFree86-libs (and more). To support such minimal installs we need to split urpmi into urpmi-base, urpmi-text, urpmi-x. Or possibly two urpmi-text and urpmi-gui. Here is result of basys install + snf-en with all dependencies. A couple of things were extra selected (rsync I guess and may be kernel-secure): bor@cooker% rpm -r /wrk -qa | wc -l 186 not as minimal as I would like to see it.
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not quite true. It pulls such things like XFree86-libs (and more). To support such minimal installs we need to split urpmi into urpmi-base, urpmi-text, urpmi-x. Or possibly two urpmi-text and urpmi-gui. there's already urpmi and gurpmi. AFAIK urpmi does not require XFree86-libs
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [will@bastard dir_test]$ rpm -q --requires urpmi eject webfetch perl-DateManip = 5.40 We need a replacement for perl-DateManip which do not require perl (but only perl-base), currently we have to increase perl to make perl-DateManip require conly perl-base. webfetch is choice between curl and wget, perl-DateManip is only needed in curl case (because curl lacks timestamp conditional upload with ftp, simulated with urpmi sync method to curl). After that, urpmi may be considered to somewhat more minimal that it is currently. François.
RE: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
le ven 18-01-2002 à 15:50, Borsenkow Andrej a écrit : true, it's like debian. Install the minimum and apt-get what u want. Urpmi is not minimum to me yes ;) see the case of post minimal install upgrade/rpm installation So install the minimum and urpmi what I want instead of having to deal by hand with the package I may want to add. For example I do a minimal install and after I urpmi apache and all apache related stuffs ( php support and others modules ) just to do a an apache server on a crappy 586 box, etc ... [will@bastard dir_test]$ rpm -q --requires urpmi eject webfetch perl-DateManip = 5.40 perl-gettext rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 rpmtools = 4.0 /bin/sh /bin/sh rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 bash perl-base Not quite true. It pulls such things like XFree86-libs (and more). where ? look at requires : only rpm, perl an bash stuff. Maybe you mix urpmi and gurpmi/rpmdrake support such minimal installs we need to split urpmi into urpmi-base, urpmi-text, urpmi-x. Or possibly two urpmi-text and urpmi-gui. Here is result of basys install + snf-en with all dependencies. A couple of things were extra selected (rsync I guess and may be kernel-secure): bor@cooker% rpm -r /wrk -qa | wc -l 186 not as minimal as I would like to see it. -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - logarno Qlqun a t'il une RH 2.0.36 - #linuxfr
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Fabrice FACORAT wrote: true, it's like debian. Install the minimum and apt-get what u want. I remember a minimum install of debian potatoe is about 90Mo for a very basic networked workstation (only terminal , no X stuff) with a ssh server. Currently wiht the mdk installer , the minimum I have found is about 150-170Mo. This is not big , but I think with a little work, mdk can do 100-120Mo. FC
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
BTW where is last urpmi rpm ? I don't find it on the french mirors FC
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Frederic Corne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember a minimum install of debian potatoe is about 90Mo for a very basic networked workstation (only terminal , no X stuff) with a ssh server. Currently wiht the mdk installer , the minimum I have found is about 150-170Mo. This is not big , but I think with a little work, mdk can do 100-120Mo. Which version do you tried (Cooker or anything else ?), if you do not select any group and select basesystem only, you will get less than 100 Mb. François.
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
François Pons wrote: Frederic Corne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember a minimum install of debian potatoe is about 90Mo for a very basic networked workstation (only terminal , no X stuff) with a ssh server. Currently wiht the mdk installer , the minimum I have found is about 150-170Mo. This is not big , but I think with a little work, mdk can do 100-120Mo. Which version do you tried (Cooker or anything else ?), if you do not select any group and select basesystem only, you will get less than 100 Mb. mdk8.1 , two or three months ago very basic system + network + ssh server - 170Mo perhaps , as you say, cooker can do less than 100MB. I will try next week in a vmware image. FC
RE: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
On ðÔÎ, 2002-01-18 at 18:53, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: Not quite true. It pulls such things like XFree86-libs (and more). where ? look at requires : only rpm, perl an bash stuff. Maybe you mix urpmi and gurpmi/rpmdrake Actually it was snf-en that pulled in XFree86. Retracted -andrej
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Christian Bricart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the idea about You have not chosen any package collections - would you like 1. a minimal install, 2. no X, However, urpmi should be part of minimal .. hmff :-( here we go, what's the definition of minimal...
Re: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Bricart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the idea about You have not chosen any package collections - would you like 1. a minimal install, 2. no X, However, urpmi should be part of minimal .. hmff :-( here we go, what's the definition of minimal... A package installer and a commandline to run it from. -- Murray Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (404) 978-1262 x2646 - voicemail/fax __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
RE: [Cooker] minimal install again (-urpmi)
I like the idea about You have not chosen any package collections - would you like 1. a minimal install, 2. no X, However, urpmi should be part of minimal .. It depends. For a mission critical system (like firewall) you may not want to install anything except what is absolutely needed. 1.622 already installs way too much - why do I need imwheel on a system where I *never* install X? And no, I have not asked for that :-) I asked to include what is absolutely needed. -andrej
