Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
andre, Thanks very much for the followup reply! :-) andre wrote: > I'm happy to hear that the SiS video has actually any umpfe. Sorry, what is "umpfe"? The integrate > everything in a chip chipset is called a 730 but it can be that the video in > it is the same as a 630. That makes sense! > The fact that XFdrake doesn't give the option for XF4. It is just a database > with some minor poling and seeing that the 730 is new is probably the reason > why it hasn't been added. Any hints on where that database is and how I could add something to it? > > About there being a driver for it. I don't know and the documentation from X > about SiS drivers is (really) bad so i would suggest looking at the source. I > can read it but i think you can understand it so i would say:may the source > be with you. > First I would like to try to make the generic VGA (SVGA) or the framebuffer driver work, then see if I have problems. Is there a parameter I can pass to the kernel at the start of install to specify the video driver I want to use? > There is a real possibillity that if it works with XF4 it doesn't work with a > framebuffered tty (as needed by Aurora) because the SIS 6326 and 530 have > problems with it. It could be that it has been solved but for a strange > reason i don't think so.(haven't used my SiS6326 for about 2 weeks) Noted. Thanks very much for your help! Randy Kramer
Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
On Sunday 15 April 2001 08:14, you wrote: > andre, > > Thanks for the response! > > andre wrote: > > You know that you are talking about an SiS video card with framebuffer. > > Inserting an older card may actually improve gaming. > > Matsonic 8308 (isn't that a shell for pcchips) has a SiS 730 chip not > > an 630 > > I would not be surprised if pcchips sells (or makes) the same or a > similar motherboard, and Matsonic may indeed be a shell for pcchips. > Another similar motherboard is sold under the Alton name. > > There is some confusion (in my mind at least) about what video chip it > uses -- the Windows driver is for an SiS 630, and, when my hardware is > recognized during install, the video chip is recognized as a 630, but > another chip (maybe a PCI interface or bus chip?) is recognized as a > 730. I've seen this chipset labeled as a 630/730 in some contexts. > > The chipset does some of the new fancy 3D things, and performs much > better in Windows that the previous graphics chip, which was an SiS 5597 > integrated on a different motherboard (a PC100 motherboard -- is that by > PCChips?). > > Anyway, this is all just a digression. I'm sure that this chipset can > function as a framebuffer or generic SVGA board under Linux, the > questions are: How do I make that happen during the install? Is there a > bug in the install which Mandrake can/should fix? > > Thanks, > Randy Kramer I'm happy to hear that the SiS video has actually any umpfe. The integrate everything in a chip chipset is called a 730 but it can be that the video in it is the same as a 630. About pc100 (or should that be pc93) being PCChips. You don't want to know(yes). The fact that XFdrake doesn't give the option for XF4. It is just a database with some minor poling and seeing that the 730 is new is probably the reason why it hasn't been added. About there being a driver for it. I don't know and the documentation from X about SiS drivers is (really) bad so i would suggest looking at the source. I can read it but i think you can understand it so i would say:may the source be with you. There is a real possibillity that if it works with XF4 it doesn't work with a framebuffered tty (as needed by Aurora) because the SIS 6326 and 530 have problems with it. It could be that it has been solved but for a strange reason i don't think so.(haven't used my SiS6326 for about 2 weeks)
Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
andre, Thanks for the response! andre wrote: > You know that you are talking about an SiS video card with framebuffer. > Inserting an older card may actually improve gaming. > Matsonic 8308 (isn't that a shell for pcchips) has a SiS 730 chip not an 630 I would not be surprised if pcchips sells (or makes) the same or a similar motherboard, and Matsonic may indeed be a shell for pcchips. Another similar motherboard is sold under the Alton name. There is some confusion (in my mind at least) about what video chip it uses -- the Windows driver is for an SiS 630, and, when my hardware is recognized during install, the video chip is recognized as a 630, but another chip (maybe a PCI interface or bus chip?) is recognized as a 730. I've seen this chipset labeled as a 630/730 in some contexts. The chipset does some of the new fancy 3D things, and performs much better in Windows that the previous graphics chip, which was an SiS 5597 integrated on a different motherboard (a PC100 motherboard -- is that by PCChips?). Anyway, this is all just a digression. I'm sure that this chipset can function as a framebuffer or generic SVGA board under Linux, the questions are: How do I make that happen during the install? Is there a bug in the install which Mandrake can/should fix? Thanks, Randy Kramer
Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
On Saturday 14 April 2001 17:14, you wrote: > Elton, > > Thanks for the response! > > No I haven't tried disabling the on-board video -- I'm sure it would > work but my son would not be happy using an older video card for his > Windows games. I'd really like one of the developers to recognize the > problem -- it should not be hard to fix and it should be fixed before > shipment of Mandrake 8.0. You know that you are talking about an SiS video card with framebuffer. Inserting an older card may actually improve gaming. Matsonic 8308 (isn't that a shell for pcchips) has a SiS 730 chip not an 630 > > Thanks, > Randy Kramer > > Elton Woo wrote: > > Randy Kramer wrote: > > > The big problem is that, whichever choice I make, I then get the > > > following error message, and the installation hangs: > > > > > > "Can't call method "set_active" on an undefined value" > > > > > > PS: The system includes a Matsonic 8308 motherboard with on board > > > video, sound, and ethernet. The on board ethernet is disabled so I can > > > use a 10 Mhz. coax ethernet card (Realtek 8029). It has a Duron 700 > > > Mhz. processor and 192 MB of RAM. > > > > Have a look at http://lhd.zdnet.com/ (Linux Hardware Database). > > A quick search for "motherboard video" and brings up the Matsonic 8106C. > > Have you tried *disabling* the onboard video, and using a plug-in PCI or > > AGP card instead? .. at least, I hope this helps to point you in the > > right > > > > direction...
Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
Elton, Thanks for the response! No I haven't tried disabling the on-board video -- I'm sure it would work but my son would not be happy using an older video card for his Windows games. I'd really like one of the developers to recognize the problem -- it should not be hard to fix and it should be fixed before shipment of Mandrake 8.0. Thanks, Randy Kramer Elton Woo wrote: > > Randy Kramer wrote: > > > The big problem is that, whichever choice I make, I then get the > > following error message, and the installation hangs: > > > > "Can't call method "set_active" on an undefined value" > > > PS: The system includes a Matsonic 8308 motherboard with on board video, > > sound, and ethernet. The on board ethernet is disabled so I can use a > > 10 Mhz. coax ethernet card (Realtek 8029). It has a Duron 700 Mhz. > > processor and 192 MB of RAM. > > Have a look at http://lhd.zdnet.com/ (Linux Hardware Database). > A quick search for "motherboard video" and brings up the Matsonic 8106C. > Have you tried *disabling* the onboard video, and using a plug-in PCI or > AGP card instead? .. at least, I hope this helps to point you in the right > > direction... >
Re: [Cooker] Beta 3 8.0 (and 7.2) installation hangs at Xserver installation, will not complete
Randy Kramer wrote: > The big problem is that, whichever choice I make, I then get the > following error message, and the installation hangs: > > "Can't call method "set_active" on an undefined value" > PS: The system includes a Matsonic 8308 motherboard with on board video, > sound, and ethernet. The on board ethernet is disabled so I can use a > 10 Mhz. coax ethernet card (Realtek 8029). It has a Duron 700 Mhz. > processor and 192 MB of RAM. Have a look at http://lhd.zdnet.com/ (Linux Hardware Database). A quick search for "motherboard video" and brings up the Matsonic 8106C. Have you tried *disabling* the onboard video, and using a plug-in PCI or AGP card instead? .. at least, I hope this helps to point you in the right direction... cheers, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
